I never got the HD remakes complaints? i mean i can see why folks are a bit unruly since the new exclusive game releases for consoles have have been a bit slow but if you have no interest in the repurchase what are you going off about. I never played city so i'm eager to pick this up and replay Asylum while i'm at it.
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Batman Arkham Asylum/City Remaster (Rumor)
- Thread starter Castef
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Oh no not more gaming options! When will it end??? :'(
ScriptedReality
Member
Remasters don't need to end, you guys just gotta ignore them. I haven't finished either of those games. I'm happy about this.
Schweinehund
Member
Älg;162320995 said:
Lack of good AAA exclusives on consoles. The perception that this gen doesn't have any games (not counting WiiU) so they just remake old ones. Bloodborne (still very niche) and SSO (no multiplayer?) are the strongest AAA games I can think of on both platforms.
Links_fantasy
Junior Member
Arkham Asylum is my favourite in the series and I would probably rebuy just to have for when I want to replay it eventually. I am still waiting for the Mass Effect Trilogy remaster with all DLC as that's the one I really want though.
firebranded
Member
Älg;162320995 said:
I don't mind them if they are done right, but part of the problem is how cheaply and hack jobish they've been done lately. Stuff like Saints Row 4 is inexcusable (I have it since I was just excited to finally play it....LOL), and then you have the full price ones that are questionable like GOW3. Mostly everyone agreed that Tomb Raider and TLOU were decent ones though.
I get it on PS4 especially they bought over a lot of 360 people, hence the stuff like GOW and TLOU.
Some people have this misconception that they are taking from creation of new games, which is ssoooooo far from the truth it's not even funny, It's usually a separate company doing it for a buck so it's cheap and brings in new people to the franchises IMO.
loaf of bread
Member
So why isn't remaster whining bannable yet? Because its 10 times worse than port-begging. Instead of complaining for wanting to play a game on another system you're literally complaining that you don't want other people to play a game at the expense of nothing on your behalf.
BobTheFork
Member
I think the Riddler trophies broke me. I played a ton of each of these to finish all the combat and collectibles. I don't think I even need to play them again.
I'm still waiting for news on that darksiders 2 remaster as well.
Lights and Waves
Member
That's mature.
E3 will be here soon.
Battlesmurf
Member
I don't mind re-releases. I have such a big backlog that it is a good thing sometimes. I do have stuff on PC so sometimes these remasters aren't all that different from what I played.
Either way, I don't get the complaining attached to remasters. They're easier for the companies to do, low risk, and it does give a lot of people who might have (somehow) missed playing stuff the first time. Pricing is the bigger consideration, though.
In this particular case, they should have included origins, "trilogy" or not
Either way, I don't get the complaining attached to remasters. They're easier for the companies to do, low risk, and it does give a lot of people who might have (somehow) missed playing stuff the first time. Pricing is the bigger consideration, though.
In this particular case, they should have included origins, "trilogy" or not
BotoxAgent
Member
I really hope next console will be backwards compatible. But if remasters prove to be lucrative, I guess it's a dead dream.
I think bringing PS2 era games into the HD world and giving them some replay value is a good thing- especially if they can keep the price at $40 or less.
But taking PS3/360 games, putting a fresh coat of paint on them, and selling them for $60-70 again is pretty despicable. I see why publishers are green-lighting these projects- it's easy money, but consumers double dipping is why it keeps happening.
Then again, there's the people who skipped the game last gen, and it's a new (premium) experience for them (like TLoU:Remastered was for me). Two sides to the coin I guess.
Still don't think any of these remasters should be above $40 though, maybe $50 if lots of DLC is included.
But taking PS3/360 games, putting a fresh coat of paint on them, and selling them for $60-70 again is pretty despicable. I see why publishers are green-lighting these projects- it's easy money, but consumers double dipping is why it keeps happening.
Then again, there's the people who skipped the game last gen, and it's a new (premium) experience for them (like TLoU:Remastered was for me). Two sides to the coin I guess.
Still don't think any of these remasters should be above $40 though, maybe $50 if lots of DLC is included.
BronsonLee
Member
I think the only one that was worth it's price was the halo mcc. Shit load of content for the price
Imbarkus
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MaximusPayne
Member
This is funny, because I've played both on PC but did not pick up Origins. If they wanted my money they would have included all three. Too bad.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
I wish the people who don't like the idea of remasters would stay away from threads like these. Expressing your opinion is one thing, rehashing the same old diatribe is another and it gets super boring.
COMMON LIST OF WHINES:
EDIT: I won't be supporting this title - I'll let my money do the talking somewhere else thank you!
COMMON SENSE:
Bottom line: Money talks & Bullshit Walks!
EDIT: I won't be supporting this title - I'll let my money do the talking somewhere else thank you!
PirateKing
Junior Member
Not including the best one? No buy
TouchMyBox
Member
I hate all of these blu-ray remasters. Why aren't these directors making new films instead?
It's slightly different and I imagine the programmers needed could maybe be better utilized elsewhere, but hey. I imagine porting a PC game to the xbox one is a pretty trivial matter, for example
Because it's a legitimate concern about the industry. You're kidding yourself if you think there's literally 'no' cost. It crowds out releases and dev resources, even if to a lesser extent then most other releases. People don't like this. It also sets a precedent in the industry that putting little effort in can justify a high price tag, as well as rehashing old content, which is also a problem in the eyes of some. You may not be concerned, but others are and your whining is far more annoying then theirs IMO.
Not mention - it just comes off as creative laziness - it's been a boring generation so far.
Solid Samus
Banned
Älg;162320995 said:
Last gen had a much stronger foundation before it delved into remaster territory. And those remasters were often complete packages of entire series.
Entire series, series for which I couldn't already just get a version comparable or even better than the remaster for ten bucks on Steam.
As a PC gamer I watch from the sidelines laughing as people defend these raw deals.
This. This this this this this this.
and they aren't as complete nearly across the board.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Arkham City is included.
Älg;162320995 said:
I think the XB1/PS4 have recieved as many remasters in 1 1/2 years as the 360/PS3 did in their entire lives.
I don't mind remasters, personally, bring em on and I won't buy the ones I don't want, but it's not hard to see why people are more upset about them now than they were before.
I'll admit it, I laughed.
TouchMyBox
Member
I'm much less interested in remasters which already have PC versions due to obvious reasons, but we've got a bit of a conundrum where I believe we're all interested in preserving games for the future, but now that publishers see that they can profit from it, people aren't happy.
Here's a bit of a leap of faith, but since consoles are now locked-down PCs, the logical progression for the foreseeable future is for future consoles to be pretty much the same architecturally as the current gen, just with extra horsepower like PCs have been progressing for the last 20 years. If that's the case there's no reason for them to not backwards compatible, so hopefully the efforts of these remasters will be appreciated for generations to come. But this is the video game industry so I'm sure someone will manage to fuck it all up.
Solid Samus
Banned
I can think of one really good reason they might not be.
That's a functionality they can sell back to players at $30-$50 piecemeal, now
whatevermort
Member
THESE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY BEEN ANNOUNCED - STOP CRYING ABOUT THIS PLEASE
I was about to say that. Give me that sweet cloth like cape.
I continue to not understand why people are so convinced remaster has something to do to the 'less' offer of this generation compared the past. The remaster it's the natural consequence of the longer time of development of the new games. Companies used the time wasted in the development without any major release, to gain more money with old porting. Remasters has nothing to do with the 'lack' of the offer. New games are not delaying for the remasters but because require more work.
fabricated backlash
Member
AAA game development has become so unsustainable, that they need to re release the same game a couple times over. And that's not even counting all the last gen remasters they're putting out.
You better like them one at a time for $40 each
Just because some of these people don't like it doesn't mean they should be allowed to derail threads.
Even when the remaster is confirmed to be great, these people will still bitch about it like everything is supposed to be about them, completely disregarding the many other people that could be and are interested. No one else cares that you completed the game last gen. How does that concern those who haven't?
Get over yourselves and stop acting like it's buy or die. It's an option, just like PS2 remasters on PS3. Don't want it? Ok. Move along. Thread derailing for this is just as bad if not worse as port begging.
If I want to play these games remastered on my PS4 because I no longer have (or never had) a PS3, for example, who's to say these remasters shouldn't exist?
"But people don't like it." Holy shit, and? Buy something else. Nothing else to buy, you say? Go read a book. Do something else.
Inertia Creeps
Banned
Älg;162320995 said:
I didn't see remasters being announced basically every week for games not even 5 years old last generation.
Remember this is just a rumour though, and since Arkham Knight hits stores in less than 8 weeks, I personally don't even think it's coming. But then again, I'm just a nobody. Anyway, I'd really urge you to try Arkham Asylum and City, preferable on the PC. Asylum may feel a little wonky, but City still looks, feels and controls incredibly well.
Except when you start actually crunching the numbers, it's not really a legitimate concern
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=159479989&postcount=352
And this list isn't exhaustive either. Then factor in that we are now starting to see a steep drop off in games being release cross-gen (Black Ops 3 is current gen only), and this generation is really only just getting started.
*This was for PS4 games, so I'm missing the Xbox exclusives and remasters.