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Media Create Sales: Week 19, 2015 (May 4 - May 10)
- Thread starter hiska-kun
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unapersson
Member
but this gen started with the 3DS
I always forget about handhelds ;-)
Mrgrgr did i see love live poster next to splatoon there lol.
unapersson
Member
Correct, it does look worse:
famitsu.com/news/201501/06069057.html
The reason I chose what I listed was two fold though:
1.) That's the year this generation starts with the 3ds.
2.) Going back through the threads we don't actually record this data in the OP further back.
More generally however, given the Vita and 3DS are winding down, the Xbox is moribund, and the Wii U isn't far behind, I don't expect things to get better anytime soon.
So are consoles or handhelds collapsing more quickly, or are they both dropping at a similar rate?
Weeks 20 and 21 will set a new low record in Japan.
Moor-Angol
Banned
No, it's not you, the game is selling well and in the long period.
Tie ratio is actually 58,07%
But there are also other games showing some legs, and they have been released in the same day OPPW3 was released, the (in)famous March 26 (famous cause a lot of games were released and infamous cause a lot of them bombed)
Pro Baseball Spirits 2015 was also released on March 36 and both versions are still holding the chart (Famitsu numbers as usual), and they have a good tie ratio (61,52% PS3, 59,13% PSV, the latter is performing better than last year and actually it's the best result for the franchise on PSV)
Sword Art Online Lost Song, Vita version, despite a higher tie-ratio (72,69%) after one month and a half has not left the chart yet
Lego City Undercover (3DS) thanks to the GW re-entered the chart and it has one of the lowest tie-ratio : 29,80%
Last title I want to mention is Assassination Classroom, tie-ratio 36,23% which could have been more less if it hadn't stock problems after it's release
Of course titles for Nintendo platforms are common to have long legs (as I pointed out last week, iirc), so that bunch of games for PS3 and PSV mentioned above are really doing good
Top 20 (week 19)
Eolz
Member
Oh, didn't remember it being that high, my bad. Weird.
Do they even play that game in Japan?
But yeah, as said in previous posts, the Ds proved there was an audience.
Picking them out of other platforms and/or attracting new players is not necessarily impossible.
The mobile juggernaut was still in its infancy during the DS era. Now it's the king and it's never giving up its crown to something that costs tens of thousands of yen just to access.
shinra-bansho
Member
Nintendo's FY forecasts are global.
Anyway, saying the DS proves there's a receptive untapped female market for the 3DS is about as valid and meaningful as saying disposable cameras showed there's an untapped budget dedicated camera market for Kodak. Or I should open a video rental store because that sure worked for Blockbuster.
Until it didn't.
Anyway, saying the DS proves there's a receptive untapped female market for the 3DS is about as valid and meaningful as saying disposable cameras showed there's an untapped budget dedicated camera market for Kodak. Or I should open a video rental store because that sure worked for Blockbuster.
Until it didn't.
Eolz
Member
Never said Mobile won't be king anymore.
Just that userbases can coexist and switch between both from time to time. That's Nintendo's mobile plan, and people already play on several platforms.
The trick is just how to attract those specific userbases, and if they will succeed. I think they can get some.
Edit since I didn't see above post:
Again, maybe it wasn't clear, but it's not that the ds proves there is an untapped female audience, it proves that it can attract one.
Nintendo isn't stupid, they have various specific IPs for that, are trying F2P, and their new "membership" and link on mobile might help achieve part of that.
Not "stealing" another audience, but merging it. Not really clear, but they don't want those people to stop playing on mobile, but to also play on 3DS. I think it's not an impossible goal.
Just that userbases can coexist and switch between both from time to time. That's Nintendo's mobile plan, and people already play on several platforms.
The trick is just how to attract those specific userbases, and if they will succeed. I think they can get some.
Edit since I didn't see above post:
Again, maybe it wasn't clear, but it's not that the ds proves there is an untapped female audience, it proves that it can attract one.
Nintendo isn't stupid, they have various specific IPs for that, are trying F2P, and their new "membership" and link on mobile might help achieve part of that.
Not "stealing" another audience, but merging it. Not really clear, but they don't want those people to stop playing on mobile, but to also play on 3DS. I think it's not an impossible goal.
Yokai Watch. All the consoles and Vita with their sub-N64 userbases can't really support a true breakout hit in Japan. Sorry Minecraft.
test_account
XP-39C²
I'm surprised that Project Steam isnt even in the Top 20, and kinda surprised that Borderlands 2 charted that low, eventhough it is an old game in itself.
Minecraft is on PS3 as well.sörine;164326960 said:
PS3 was last generation though. Last gen we had four platforms selling over 10 million, this gen we're only getting one.
shinra-bansho
Member
Under dramatically different market conditions, the DS managed to attract female consumer segments to buy a dedicated handheld device. It means very little in the current competitive environment.
Similarly, in that same investor answer, the idea that Western markets have room for growth ignores modern reality.
It's a product in decline. And the forecasts do not seem conservative. Iwata is simply rationalising those overoptimistic forecasts.
As for the general idea of leading people towards complementing their mobile gaming with traditional games, sure it's not impossible. Just as getting consumers en masse to buy digital cameras, or rent physical videos or buy books at Borders is not technically impossible. It's just highly improbable to the point that it's not particularly worth contemplating.
The proposed behaviour is that people, or in this instance women, who currently have no want or need of a dedicated device, who currently gain interactive entertainment through vehicles they already have that outperforms those devices on dimensions of value they care for while being essentially free, will go out and purchase at considerable cost said dedicated devices.
It's a niche product category now, it will be an increasingly niche product category going forward as substitution continues.
Except Nintendo specifically showed how their female user base expanded in the DS era. It proved that females can make up an equal market compared to men. Just because of consumer migration doesn't mean they shouldn't attempt to get that segment back. There is an untapped market until proven otherwise. I'm not saying they will be successful, but they should try.
And technically camera and video rental businesses evolved. It's not that those old business practices didn't work, they failed to adapt. Which applies to Nintendo, and I feel they are in an adaptive phase.
I think his point is - is there an untapped female audience Nintendo is missing out on, or is there a tapped female audience who are simply somewhere else. Untapped suggests under-servered or unserved. I don't think that's the case for gaming. I think Nintendo just lost that audience.
I like this discussion.
This here leads to a bigger question I think is important in analysis,
What are the differences in female vs male audiences?
I have no idea. Of course women like different genres at varying rates, but saying that feels sexist.
test_account
XP-39C²
I see what you mean. I wonder how Minecraft would have sold if there wasnt a PS3 and PS4 version available in Japan.sörine;164327970 said:
In the upcoming showdown between Monster Hunter Explore and Monster Gear, Sega is off to a pretty good start:
Oh, I remember it was going to start its service in May, but didn't know it already started! This week, I should provide one of my analysis about Hortensia Saga (next thread). Monster Gear will be the next, then.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I played a little of it over the weekend and asides from the aesthetic I could see how they attempted to ape the feel of Monster Hunter, but combat seemed way too simplistic to be worth putting extended time into.
BlowoverKing
Banned
Just realized something.
| PSPgo | 175.964 |
| PSVTV | 163.058 |
Looks like it might
pass the PSP go. Also are there never deals on the Vita TV in Japan like the US where retailers basically give the thing away for free? You almost never see it's sales spike for a week in Japan.
| PSPgo | 175.964 |
| PSVTV | 163.058 |
Looks like it might
crawl
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
So does this indicate preorders or something and may grow?
Also Splatoon up another 4 preorders to hit 69.
Smiles and Cries
Member
ouch, I would get it digitally though but ouch at that shipment and still they did not sellout lol OUCH
Really interesting to see how Splatoon will fare in the Japanese market. Looks like the perception on Splatoon changed since the marketing rolled out in the last few weeks.
I think the better question is how much would Minecraft sell if there were a 3DS version available in Japan?
The blogger suggests that final FW shipment could double at this rate
Smiles and Cries
Member
My guess is Splatoon does as well as the recent Mario Party on WiiU better than Xenoblade X but not epic
But it's better than bombing, like W101
But a >100k FW seems to be happening. That's pretty decent for a new IP on Wii U, and for a kind of game that it is.
Smiles and Cries
Member
But it's better than bombing, like W101
But a >100k FW seems to be happening. That's pretty decent for a new IP on Wii U, and for a kind of game that it is.
not bad for WiiU at all if the 100K first week holds true
Xenoblade X already crossed 100k line on Famitsu but 100k First Week for Splatoon is well deserved I think the interest is there but not sure about the legs to carry it
As a new IP from Nintendo it is not shocking for them to take over charts with a new IPs on 3DS/DS a million Seller on WiiU is so hard to pull off in Japan and 1M seller is what I would love to see of IPs like this.
looking at Mario Kart 8 just limping towards 1M and Smash4U still at 600k thanks to 3DS for no help at all
where do we expect Splatoon to land after first week? ( my expectation 280K LTD in Japan )
TW101 + Bayo1+2 are fails, can't count them agaisnt how a Nintendo first party title will do
KillerMan91
Member
sörine;164391172 said:
Could 3DS run Minecraft with enough of scale? I mean graphics wise Minecraft is nothing to write home about but if I remember right they had to downgrade the scale even for Vita because technical limitations. Scale is one the biggest selling points of console versions (and PC) of Minecraft.
J
Jpop
Unconfirmed Member
This is good. It shows Nintendo that the franchise is viable for the future, though they probably already knew that.
In that case, hopefully it sells as much as possible from the first shipment.
Also, new SRT game for 3DS coming
http://gematsu.com/2015/05/new-super-robot-wars-3ds-announced-this-weeks-famitsu
Cool to see Cygames expanding to console development
In the upcoming showdown between Monster Hunter Explore and Monster Gear, Sega is off to a pretty good start:
Nirooo. Me need some data Hortensia Saga especially on May 21 plizzz. That day is the start of huge event for Guild Wars. I wanted to see whether it is going to have huge following or not here.^_^
If possible Chain Chronicle too.^_^(now is currently on Casino event lol.)
sorry for the probably dumb question, but reading these two post in a row means that the blogger think that Splatoon first week shipment could be around 200k? isn't that a little bit too optimistic for a brand new IP on the DeadU?
There is no such thing as too optimistic. Ika is life. Ika Banzaiiii. Where is my Ika-musume x Splatoon here.T_T
Moor-Angol
Banned
why don't you post here Fami top1000?
it has been always done in the past, if it's just for translation I can give you a help
it has been always done in the past, if it's just for translation I can give you a help
The game is set for a +100k opening, what is so wrong for shipping 200k? That's more than the half of the shipment.
Because I have the photocopies and I don't have scanner. So the only way is that I take photos of the 28 pages, upload them and start translating.
Guys, remember posting scans in neogaf could lead to your banning.
Particularly, I think it was famitsu one if the complaining that created this rule.
People have been posting pictures of 20 year old magazines, but the white papers are new and very expensive.
Anyway, I'll only be able to translate stuff on the weekend.
Thanks a lot for your effort!
Particularly, I think it was famitsu one if the complaining that created this rule.
People have been posting pictures of 20 year old magazines, but the white papers are new and very expensive.
Anyway, I'll only be able to translate stuff on the weekend.
Thanks a lot for your effort!
Bruno MB
Member
One year and a half late:
Famitsu Sales: November 2013 [retail and digital] (Oct 28 - Dec 01)
01. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 403.295 (13.585) / 416.880
02. [PS3] Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.11.21} (¥7.770) - 356.040 (5.686) / 361.726
03. [PSV] God Eater 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.14} (¥5.980) - 315.624 (29.869) / 345.493
04. [PS3] Call of Duty: Ghosts - Subtitled Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2013.11.14} (¥7.980) - 263.565 (3.993) / 267.558
05. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.11.14} (¥7.980) - 215.319 (3.584) / 218.903
06. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 169.813 (16.818) / 186.631
07. [WIU] Wii Party U # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.10.31} (¥4.935) - 177.008 (3.486) / 180.494
08. [PSP] God Eater 2 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.14} (¥5.980) - 154.266 (3.650) / 157.916
09. [PS3] Battlefield 4 <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2013.11.07} (¥7.665) - 148.859 (4.895) / 153.754
10. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 146.273 (4.763) / 151.036
11. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.10.24} (¥3.980) - 117.130 (7.973) / 125.103
12. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2013.10.10} (¥7.770) - 118.751 (0) / 118.751
13. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985) - 107.508 (759) / 108.267
14. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited World Red # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.980) - 103.674 (2.576) / 106.250
15. [3DS] Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai 2 # <ACT> (Sega) {2013.11.28} (¥6.279) - 84.676 (4.139) / 88.815
16. [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Wars <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.10.31} (¥4.980) - 71.632 (2.627) / 74.259
17. [3DS] Aikatsu! 2-nin no My Princess <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480) - 69.519 (1.486) / 71.005
18. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.10.24} (¥2.980) - 67.803 (1.936) / 69.739
19. [3DS] Daigasso! Band Brothers P <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.14} (¥4.800) - 61.769 (5.325) / 67.094
20. [PSV] Gundam Breaker # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.31} (¥6.980) - 49.754 (9.611) / 59.365
21. [PSV] Akiba's Trip 2 <ADV> (Acquire) {2013.11.07} (¥6.594) - 45.553 (5.708) / 51.261
22. [PS3] Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2013.11.28} (¥7.770) - 50.032 (0) / 50.032
23. [3DS] Battle For Money Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.17} (¥4.980) - 47.661 (1.554) / 49.215
24. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.11.28} (¥5.040) - 36.588 (6.318) / 42.906
25. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 37.836 (2.668) / 40.504
26. [PSV] Hyperdimension Neptunia Re:Birth1 # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2013.10.31} (¥6.090) - 36.581 (3.740) / 40.321
27. [PS3] Tears to Tiara II: Haou no Matsuei # <SLG> (Aqua Plus) {2013.10.31} (¥6.980) - 30.897 (3.669) / 34.566
28. [PSV] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.10.24} (¥3.980) - 29.052 (4.071) / 33.123
29. [3DS] Metal Max 4: Moonlight Diva # <RPG> (Kadokawa Games) {2013.11.07} (¥6.980) - 30.292 (1.637) / 31.929
30. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.11.14} (¥3.980) - 29.344 (1.664) / 31.008¥
Famitsu Sales: November 2013 [retail and digital] (Oct 28 - Dec 01)
01. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 403.295 (13.585) / 416.880
02. [PS3] Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.11.21} (¥7.770) - 356.040 (5.686) / 361.726
03. [PSV] God Eater 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.14} (¥5.980) - 315.624 (29.869) / 345.493
04. [PS3] Call of Duty: Ghosts - Subtitled Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2013.11.14} (¥7.980) - 263.565 (3.993) / 267.558
05. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.11.14} (¥7.980) - 215.319 (3.584) / 218.903
06. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 169.813 (16.818) / 186.631
07. [WIU] Wii Party U # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.10.31} (¥4.935) - 177.008 (3.486) / 180.494
08. [PSP] God Eater 2 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.14} (¥5.980) - 154.266 (3.650) / 157.916
09. [PS3] Battlefield 4 <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2013.11.07} (¥7.665) - 148.859 (4.895) / 153.754
10. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 146.273 (4.763) / 151.036
11. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.10.24} (¥3.980) - 117.130 (7.973) / 125.103
12. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2013.10.10} (¥7.770) - 118.751 (0) / 118.751
13. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985) - 107.508 (759) / 108.267
14. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited World Red # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.980) - 103.674 (2.576) / 106.250
15. [3DS] Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai 2 # <ACT> (Sega) {2013.11.28} (¥6.279) - 84.676 (4.139) / 88.815
16. [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Wars <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.10.31} (¥4.980) - 71.632 (2.627) / 74.259
17. [3DS] Aikatsu! 2-nin no My Princess <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480) - 69.519 (1.486) / 71.005
18. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.10.24} (¥2.980) - 67.803 (1.936) / 69.739
19. [3DS] Daigasso! Band Brothers P <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.14} (¥4.800) - 61.769 (5.325) / 67.094
20. [PSV] Gundam Breaker # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.31} (¥6.980) - 49.754 (9.611) / 59.365
21. [PSV] Akiba's Trip 2 <ADV> (Acquire) {2013.11.07} (¥6.594) - 45.553 (5.708) / 51.261
22. [PS3] Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2013.11.28} (¥7.770) - 50.032 (0) / 50.032
23. [3DS] Battle For Money Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.17} (¥4.980) - 47.661 (1.554) / 49.215
24. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.11.28} (¥5.040) - 36.588 (6.318) / 42.906
25. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 37.836 (2.668) / 40.504
26. [PSV] Hyperdimension Neptunia Re:Birth1 # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2013.10.31} (¥6.090) - 36.581 (3.740) / 40.321
27. [PS3] Tears to Tiara II: Haou no Matsuei # <SLG> (Aqua Plus) {2013.10.31} (¥6.980) - 30.897 (3.669) / 34.566
28. [PSV] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.10.24} (¥3.980) - 29.052 (4.071) / 33.123
29. [3DS] Metal Max 4: Moonlight Diva # <RPG> (Kadokawa Games) {2013.11.07} (¥6.980) - 30.292 (1.637) / 31.929
30. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.11.14} (¥3.980) - 29.344 (1.664) / 31.008¥
test_account
XP-39C²
sörine;164391172 said:
Yeah, without knowing how Minecraft would run on the 3DS, its hard to know about the sales potential. If the game had to be limited, it could also affect the enjoyment of the game, and further affect the sales of that version.
Console Minecraft also has reduced scale, it's even behind PE now that Mojang added infinite worlds to those versions.
A 3DS port might need to be reduced further (I believe it depends on save file restrictions), but a conversion could be done. There's already several commercial and homebrew clones on the system.