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Halo splitscreen co-op RIP 2001-2015

Dash Kappei

Not actually that important
NOOOOOOOOOOO!

They fucked up basically each of the MCC's campaigns splitscreen mode and now this?! -_-
Couch coop is the main reason I play Halo goddamn
 

Mr_Fern

Neo Member
Sometimes NeoGAF is really depressing with all of you complaining all the time.

IMO they are compensating us with all the great news about free coop online, ton of maps and free DLC, for me this is not that bad, i always play online.

Take it easy guys.
 

NeoXChaos

Member
Well, well, well....And to think I was just starting to talk myself into getting an XB1. Halo is now dead to me.

Really? quite the statement there. I'm not saying its an overreaction but I am surprised people feel this way. This is great news imo. I cant wait to get back into halo after the abominations that were reach and 4.
 

batbeg

Member
As systems get more and more powerful they simultaneously become less and less capable of supporting same screen multiplayer. So lame.
 

Daingurse

Member
That sucks a lot actually. I've loved playing Halo split-screen coop with my brother since the original Xbox. Not being able to do that really is a turn off.
 

Iorv3th

Member
Really? quite the statement there. I'm not saying its an overreaction but I am surprised people feel this way. This is great news imo. I cant wait to get back into halo after the abominations that were reach and 4.

How is no split screen great news?

I will likely not buy the game now. I am going to get an xbox one for rockband if the old DLC all transfers over like they claim. But I did not like Halo 4 and didn't like the crap job they did with halo anniversary either. Really didn't feel like getting Halo 5, but my wife wanted to because we always play through them co-op. Now we can't, so don't have to worry about getting it.
 

Outrun

Member
Wow, who knew there were so many couch co-op players in this day and age? I'm sure it has nothing to do with people just looking for an excuse to dump on 343...

The fact you can play it co-op online and not require a Gold subscription is a pretty nice feature though.

Yep, local coop, was what made Halo Halo...

But I thought it was

Arena shooter MP?

No ADS?

Firefight?

No sprint?

No AA?

.....

Nope, the thing that resonated with all fans was online coop....

I am so sorry 343i has failed yet again...

I will be playing the game on a whole screen and enjoy the splendour that is Halo 5 campaign.
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
Halo is one of the main games known for a exception local co-op campaing... what just became even more rare these days. Then, they just remove this big feature!!

Sometimes I wonder how do they dialogue and define this kind of decisions! Didn't they expeceted a huge blacklash for what they're doing? Specially after all the MCC issues...

I mean... What the fuck!
 

TL21xx

Banned
Well, that's a complete buzzkill. Couch co-op and Halo go hand in hand. That has always been a major selling point for the series. I was about to start playing through the original trilogy again with my girlfriend soon too. I'll still give it a chance, but this isn't the direction I wanted Halo going down... If this turns out to be another mediocre release, I'm done. That really hurts to say, but if the magic is gone, theres no need to waste time and money.
 
+1

Really, with ADS and sprint what is really Halo about this game anymore?

i'll play devil's advocate and point out that deliberately-paced ttk and map control are still hugely emphasized in Halo 5. i've got no doubt that Halo gameplay will still be much different (and still a bit more cerebral) than in other fps games, even as 343 bridges the gap a bit with features like ADS and doubling down on sprint.

Yep, local coop, was what made Halo Halo...

But I thought it was

Arena shooter MP?

No ADS?

Firefight?

No sprint?

No AA?

.....

Nope, the thing that resonated with all fans was online coop....
cantitbeboth.gif
 

RowdyReverb

Member
Sometimes NeoGAF is really depressing with all of you complaining all the time.

IMO they are compensating us with all the great news about free coop online, ton of maps and free DLC, for me this is not that bad, i always play online.

Take it easy guys.
It's a testament to this idea that this thread is newer, yet longer than the Game Informer details thread.
 
Sometimes NeoGAF is really depressing with all of you complaining all the time.

IMO they are compensating us with all the great news about free coop online, ton of maps and free DLC, for me this is not that bad, i always play online.

Take it easy guys.

I don't want to be compensated with free stuff, that's not how you buy my endorsement. Are those things good? Yes, definitely.

For me, the limitation that split screen co-op has always had in Halo is the size of levels. You can only get so far away from your partner before beaming to them because each area has to load separately. So, by doing away with that restriction I'm hoping to see the largest scale, most open campaign we've ever had in a Halo game.

If they killed split-screen co-op then it better have been for a related reason that benefits the overall game. If the killed it because it's a feature that only 5% of the user base ever use, then they're only harming themselves and continuing to harm people's good memories of Halo. They've got the money to support the feature, there should be a good reason why it's not there.
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
The game still interests me a lot, and I hope they compensate the lack of the local co-op with a decent online co-op environment. I don't want to suffer from input lags anymore!

However, it makes me sad to see how the industry is extinguishing completely the couch co-op! This is happening with all the last big racing games, and now with Halo... that's just too damn sad! I hope the new Gears of War keep the local co-op fature... otherwise that's a total bummer.
 

Outrun

Member
i'll play devil's advocate and point out that deliberately-paced ttk and map control are still hugely emphasized in Halo 5. i've got no doubt that Halo gameplay will still be much different (and still a bit more cerebral) than in other fps games, even as 343 bridges the gap a bit with features like ADS and doubling down on sprint.


cantitbeboth.gif

Can't we be satisfied with 5 steps forward and 1 step backward?

Instead, we have utter despair....

And we have not seen the game proper yet...
 
Really? quite the statement there. I'm not saying its an overreaction but I am surprised people feel this way. This is great news imo. I cant wait to get back into halo after the abominations that were reach and 4.

For me the main reason I played Halo was local co-op. That one thing was the thing I most regretted when I jumped ship to the PS4. The thought of replaying all the MCC campaigns with better graphics in local co-op along with doing the same in Halo 5: Guardians seriously had me reconsidering picking up an XB1. Now that I hear MCC splitscreen co-op is foobar'd and will be totally non-existent in Halo 5, my main reason for playing the game has evaporated. I can assure you that for me Halo has instantly gone from being one of my most beloved games (although the most recent version have been a bit lacking) to a big fat zero.
 
But I thought split screen in Halo was sacred.

343, I'm not okay with this.

Same here. I just thought it was a given, I consider it one of the main selling points. I've played through every Halo campaign with my best friend and my girlfriend. We enjoy doing it together. No longer? I am sad. Popped my hype balloon.
 

Glass

Member
My Xbox One journey so far has been quite the lonely one, all my console friends went PS4 this gen, so all my coop experience has been local MCC, making this quite the blow since I love campaign.

Who knows, maybe after seeing the strong feedback lamenting its loss, 343 can reasses and work some magic with the engine.
 

REDSLATE

Member
I'm glad they chose framerate over local splitscreen.
the two aren't mutually exclusive, lol
I read the initial statement as sarcasm.

Has 343 done ANYTHING right with Halo other than killing it?
Not charging for Map DLC seems like a good idea.
Map packs were free. This didn't change until 343 was introduced.

Halo was the glue that held my family together. With every release we would get together and play 4 player splitscreen, be it campaign or multiplayer. When my parents heard about this news, they filed for divorce. My sister ran away.

Thanks 343, you ruined my family
Which one kept the computer?
 

Prezhulio

Member
Wow, my FAVORITE feature of halo games is gone, what a shame.

Isn't black ops 3 going to have split screen campaign. Support of did I imagine that?
 

Slateboard

Neo Member
I hope online co-op is still a thing, but it's a huge disappointment for me as I play a lot with family members locally.

Also, I saw an earlier post say that MCC had botched local co-op. What happened there?
 
My girlfriend and I were really looking forward to doing split screen coop on this. We've done every Halo coop including the MCC again (split screen was kinda butchered for MCC). The only exceptions have been Wars, Spartan Assault and soon to be Spartan Strike which we ran through separately.

I don't want to bitch and moan but it really does suck that this feature won't be included. I'm assuming this will be beyond the realm of patching in at a later date as well? If not, at least put out stability fixes for the MCC split screen please.

I hope online co-op is still a thing, but it's a huge disappointment for me as I play a lot with family members locally.

Also, I saw an earlier post say that MCC had botched local co-op. What happened there?

Major framerate issues.
 

REDSLATE

Member

I don't think you actually know what you're talking about.

I in fact do.

For Halo 2, you could pay a fee to gain instant access or wait roughly two months for them to be publicly released for free. During that time, there were a few game modes you couldn't play, but unlike more recent games, this didn't hamper your play experience. The gametypes that were restricted tended to be the more competitive modes (ex. Hardcore).
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Cause the PS4 has AAA splitscreen co-op games.
No, but right now it has a pretty good suite of local splitscreen co-op games, including Towerfall and Magicka 2. That stuff influenced the purchase of the PS4 over an X1, as I primarily play local multiplayer with others, but that's besides the point. We played Halo together, and now that gaming experience is no more.
 
Man that kinda sucks I've beaten all the halo and gears games locally with my cousin I still plan on getting halo 5 I guess I'll grab Blops 3 for my co-op needs
 

Shpeshal Nick

aka Collingwood
All this faux outrage over split screen and the "its what Halo is known for!".

Actually Halo became known for people bringing their OWN CONSOLE over for LAN. But whatever suits the narrative.

Even in split screen, it was more MP related than SP.
 

webkatt

Member
Isn't this game suppose to revolve around two playable characters?

It seems custom made for splitscreen co-op.
 

hwalker84

Member
Dont apply your experience to everyone else. Clearly this thread is filled with people who use that feature.

These people are in the minority. Do you not think 343 isn't collecting data on what features are used and what aren't? It's pretty obvious splitscreen is a dying/dead feature used by the minority.
 

Mr_Fern

Neo Member
I don't want to be compensated with free stuff, that's not how you buy my endorsement. Are those things good? Yes, definitely.

For me, the limitation that split screen co-op has always had in Halo is the size of levels. You can only get so far away from your partner before beaming to them because each area has to load separately. So, by doing away with that restriction I'm hoping to see the largest scale, most open campaign we've ever had in a Halo game.

If they killed split-screen co-op then it better have been for a related reason that benefits the overall game. If the killed it because it's a feature that only 5% of the user base ever use, then they're only harming themselves and continuing to harm people's good memories of Halo. They've got the money to support the feature, there should be a good reason why it's not there.

Let's hope for the best and that 343i have learned from their mistakes in the past, so far the balance is positive for me, but i can understand that you are upset, yet some people over react.
 

Shpeshal Nick

aka Collingwood
These people are in the minority. Do you not think 343 isn't collecting data on what features are used and what aren't? It's pretty obvious splitscreen is a dying/dead feature used by the minority.

So much this. I know more than enough gamers with consoles from all 3 major manufacturers to know split screen is basically dead. Or at least dead enough to warrant it being not worth the headache of implementing.
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
These people are in the minority. Do you not think 343 isn't collecting data on what features are used and what aren't? It's pretty obvious splitscreen is a dying/dead feature used by the minority.

For me, personally, they would redeem themselves about that matter if we have a flawless online co-op experience. Let's see...
 
All this faux outrage over split screen and the "its what Halo is known for!".

Actually Halo became known for people bringing their OWN CONSOLE over for LAN. But whatever suits the narrative.

Even in split screen, it was more MP related than SP.

Halo "became known" for different things to different people. I played a decent amount of local co-op in Halo 1, 2, 3 and Reach. I have never really defined this series by the campaign, but plenty of people play these games primarily for the campaign and barely touch the multiplayer.

This is what happens when you remove long standing features from a series. People complain. It's not "faux outrage"... for some people it IS a big deal.
 
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