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[twozerotwo]

Hopped on Ultra while still half asleep as soon as I woke up this morning.

Had a slight life lead until I got crossed up back-to-back-to-back and I was on tilt for the entire second round. I rage quit as soon as the KO popped up.

The most frustrating way to start the day.

https://twitter.com/reiketsuhidou/status/611858852049321984

Love that shirt. It took a month for it to finally get to me and at that point I'd forgotten about it so it was a nice surprise when I got it.

 

[BakedYams]

can't take priority over that 90 man marvel tournament

Wow, 90 people? I actually have a chance if my pool isn't filled with sharks lol

 

[Dahbomb]

Wow, 90 people? I actually have a chance if my pool isn't filled with sharks lol

Chance at what? Just because it's fewer people doesn't mean it's much easier.

 

[Shackzam]

Wow, 90 people? I actually have a chance if my pool isn't filled with sharks lol

You're already in the shark pit. You were better off in general display of fishes.

 

[Sayad]

From the Digital Foundry X1 backward compatibility thread, looks like if SFIV make the list it'll end up being the worst version of the game. >_<

 

[Coffeeling]

Pandora is one of the most useless mechanics in any fighting game....and I've played a shit ton of Blazblue.

Wasn't really talking about Pandora's irrelevance, since it's, well, irrelevant. Bigger problems are:

1. The garish visuals

2. A soundscape that literally makes the game more boring (not kidding on this one, watched some SFxT after I'd dismissed it because people praised it, was bored out of my mind. Yet when I logically looked at the match it should've been somewhat interesting. Put the sound on mute to focus just on the gameplay, and I had more fun even if I didn't focus that much in the end)

3. Walkspeeds that get bested by molasses in winter

4. Spastic camera, esp. the throw closeups are seasickness-inducing and need to die in a fire yesterday, but I think the camera swinging with every hit contributes to the next point:

4. Something about how the combo system / neutral game conversions play out that's bothersome that I can't quite articulate. I guess a lot of it is how most of match time is spent with the players on each other's faces pressing buttons.

There's little actual movement-based back and forth in there compared to what you'll see in games like UNIEL, GG, KOF13, Marvel that devolve into one player games just as easily, and compared to the other snail game, SF4, the spacing situations aren't protracted enough to have that special something to them. In short, there's a game flow problem that I think is fixable, but as the game is now, severe. This Sethlolol v. Zombiedriver match I'm watching now has some actual movement when they play Xiaoyu vs. Kuma, but it's the exception. Most of the time, it's just not there, not to the extent it needs to for the game to be entertaining from a non-RPS standpoint.

Contrast this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXg4Ouy9e54

To any of these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRnBGNISYYQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EOgxY05sFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9qC1shBP8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoafCpvV5v0

 

[theprodigy]

Smash 4 just offically capped at 512 for CEO. Also, not on the main stage this year.

well the tradeoff was all of top 8 being 3/5 and more streamed semis, also Smash gets its own ballroom

eh

Wow, 90 people? I actually have a chance if my pool isn't filled with sharks lol

hey now, Marvel has 152 people right now

 

[Onemic]

From the Digital Foundry X1 backward compatibility thread, looks like if SFIV make the list it'll end up being the worst version of the game. >_<

That should come as no surprise. It's going to be an emulated version of the 360 version. I expect the input lag to be through the roof. Same for all the other X1 BC fighting game titles

 

[Rhapsody]

so tournament numbers are low because online has quality matches? man thats so backwards...

Anne didn't say that. "Despite" doesn't mean "because".

 

[Dahbomb]

well the tradeoff was all of top 8 being 3/5 and more streamed semis, also Smash gets its own ballroom

eh

hey now, Marvel has 152 people right now

So OneFrameLink gonna provide the pot bonus now?

 

[Tripon]

well the tradeoff was all of top 8 being 3/5 and more streamed semis, also Smash gets its own ballroom

eh

hey now, Marvel has 152 people right now

Well, CEO also offered top 4 for both Melee and Smash 4 and the Smash players didn't take that offer. They could of had both if they just thought about it.

 

[BakedYams]

Chance at what? Just because it's fewer people doesn't mean it's much easier.

That is very true but I said my statement with playing less matches in mind. I'm gonna have to see who's in my pool. My only demon is Prodigy, rocks makes it so hard on me. If that happens, I'll have to play another team braindead.

You're already in the shark pit. You were better off in general display of fishes.

A fish gotta fight with the sharks if he wants to be recognized.

Spoiler

I don't want to be eaten alive...

 

[fader]

Anne didn't say that. "Despite" doesn't mean "because".

never confused "despite" for "because", I just got mixed up on the second paragraph.

 

[theprodigy]

Well, CEO also offered top 4 for both Melee and Smash 4 and the Smash players didn't take that offer. They could of had both if they just thought about it.

the players chose the option that suited them the best rather than the stream monsters, I'm not sure why this is such a big deal

also apparently USF4 is at 2009 entrants at Evo now (yes you read that correctly, exactly 2009)

 

[Tripon]

the players chose the option that suited them the best rather than the stream monsters, I'm not sure why this is such a big deal

also apparently USF4 is at 2009 entrants at Evo now

I just think it's lame that Smash and FGC continues to segregate themselves. Doubly so in this case since Smash players chose to do it to themselves.

 

[Negaduck]

Lol, fell asleep last night and ended up not really watching SEAM. Turned on the rebroadcast right now and it ended up being at the same place I stopped at. Go me.

 

[petghost]

I just think it's lame that Smash and FGC continues to segregate themselves. Doubly so in this case since Smash players chose to do it to themselves.

Yeah it's super weird how non-integrated it seems. Do smash players consider themselves as part of the fgc at large or is the fgc is a seperate entity to them?

 

[kirblar]

Yeah it's super weird how non-integrated it seems. Do smash players consider themselves as part of the fgc at large or is the fgc is a seperate entity to them?

It's the latter- they've had their own thing built up for a decade+.

 

[Rice-Eater]

It was the same at Apex. SF4 and other fgc games weren't on the Apex main stage and were relegated to a separate smaller stage. Sure numbers for Smash at Apex far exceeded SF4, but point is that they were separated.

CEO started out as and is traditionally a fgc tournament so they are going to want to keep their main games on stream even if they're outnumbered. Which I think is understandable. Inviting both games top 4 is a nice gesture. I don't think people should be upset over this. Or else I demand SF4 to be on the main stage Apex 2016

 

[fader]

Or else I demand SF4 to be on the main stage Apex 2016

whoooa there daddy

 

[DryEyeRelief]

It was the same at Apex. SF4 and other fgc games weren't on the Apex main stage and were relegated to a separate smaller stage. Sure numbers for Smash at Apex far exceeded SF4, but point is that they were separated.

CEO started out as and is traditionally a fgc tournament so they are going to want to keep their main games on stream even if they're outnumbered. Which I think is understandable. Inviting both games top 4 is a nice gesture. I don't think people should be upset over this. Or else I demand SF4 to be on the main stage Apex 2016

Are people still going to care about SF4 when Apex 2016 happens?

 

[ILoveBish]

From the Digital Foundry X1 backward compatibility thread, looks like if SFIV make the list it'll end up being the worst version of the game. >_<

That should come as no surprise. It's going to be an emulated version of the 360 version. I expect the input lag to be through the roof. Same for all the other X1 BC fighting game titles

It's amazing what amount of bs some people will believe. Launch titles are running like ass, what do you think is going to happen for later games? All those hopes and dreams doe... Hysterical really.

 

[Professor Beef]

From the Digital Foundry X1 backward compatibility thread, looks like if SFIV make the list it'll end up being the worst version of the game. >_<

Be careful what you wish for, Marvel Minions.

 

[Karsticles]

Alright, so like Master Milk suggested, I made a Kickstarter:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1971911333/upping-your-fighting-game

 

[Mr. X]

Yeah it's super weird how non-integrated it seems. Do smash players consider themselves as part of the fgc at large or is the fgc is a seperate entity to them?

FGC is only an umbrella term to group those who play kinda similar games. We are a conglomerate of many games and scenes. There isnt really integration, just cooperation and sharing assets that benefit all.

 

[ShinMaruku]

I just think it's lame that Smash and FGC continues to segregate themselves. Doubly so in this case since Smash players chose to do it to themselves.

How is it lame? There is never any real overlap between games (Outside of airdashers) and the fanbases. This is to be expected.

FGC is only an umbrella term to group those who play kinda similar games. We are a conglomerate of many games and scenes. There isnt really integration, just cooperation and sharing assets that benefit all.

Exactly. It was never just 1 scene. Now if it was 1 scene and there was overlap fighting games would be probably comaparable to CS with it's scene pull, but we don't have that, and it's fine.

 

[Thing on a Spring]

Watching SEAM earlier and saw this dude that looks like Daigo and Gootecks merged. Weird.

 

[jerry1594]

Final impressions from Max on sf5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=IViu5lRnmgU

 

[Rice-Eater]

Are people still going to care about SF4 when Apex 2016 happens?

Yes because SFV probably won't be out yet and I think SF4 will still be apart of the CPT. Except with a heavily reduced prize.

 

[alstein]

I'm realizing I really don't like going to events anymore, even locals. They're just too cramped and crowded, and that makes me feel kinda uncomfortable. You occasionally get smells, they're expensive, and there's a ton of waiting- and the waiting in particular impacts my play- it causes me to get impatient as hell when it's finally my turn to play after a 30 min- 1 hr wait. It's just not fun to me. I'm also more comfortable playing in my own house on my own setup instead of some random setup which has different delay.

I understand it can be fun to others, but I think I actually prefer just playing online. I'd rather put up with a little bit of lag than all that other stuff that irritates me more.

 

[Dahbomb]

It was the same at Apex. SF4 and other fgc games weren't on the Apex main stage and were relegated to a separate smaller stage. Sure numbers for Smash at Apex far exceeded SF4, but point is that they were separated.

CEO started out as and is traditionally a fgc tournament so they are going to want to keep their main games on stream even if they're outnumbered. Which I think is understandable. Inviting both games top 4 is a nice gesture. I don't think people should be upset over this. Or else I demand SF4 to be on the main stage Apex 2016

SF4 is going to have more entrants than Smash games at Apex?

 

[petghost]

I think the fgc is a single thing despite being made up of different scenes. As an example we speak the same basic language. Smash players call recovery lag I believe?


Rice I think you gonna have a tough time when sf5 comes out because you seemingly really adore 4. That's cool tho people like you keep games alive.

 

[Coffeeling]

www.twitch.tv/kingsofco

KOF tournament from Colorado. Kanibalito, Violent Kain, Kings of CO crew in attendance at least.

 

[fader]

I'm realizing I really don't like going to events anymore, even locals. They're just too cramped and crowded, and that makes me feel kinda uncomfortable. You occasionally get smells, they're expensive, and there's a ton of waiting- and the waiting in particular impacts my play- it causes me to get impatient as hell when it's finally my turn to play after a 30 min- 1 hr wait. It's just not fun to me. I'm also more comfortable playing in my own house on my own setup instead of some random setup which has different delay.

I understand it can be fun to others, but I think I actually prefer just playing online. I'd rather put up with a little bit of lag than all that other stuff that irritates me more.

huh...

 

[Dahbomb]

Smash players call mirror matches dittos.

 

[Kalamari]

I'm realizing I really don't like going to events anymore, even locals. They're just too cramped and crowded, and that makes me feel kinda uncomfortable. You occasionally get smells, they're expensive, and there's a ton of waiting- and the waiting in particular impacts my play- it causes me to get impatient as hell when it's finally my turn to play after a 30 min- 1 hr wait. It's just not fun to me. I'm also more comfortable playing in my own house on my own setup instead of some random setup which has different delay.

I understand it can be fun to others, but I think I actually prefer just playing online. I'd rather put up with a little bit of lag than all that other stuff that irritates me more.

I hate going inside the post office for the exact same reasons.

 

[RaySpencer]

I own 2 arcade sticks, but I still cant get used to them, haha.


I want to get a good 6 button fight pad. Are the PDP MKX ones good? Or should I try to grab one of the old MadCatz ones? It doesnt matter if its PlayStation or Xbox, but I guess I would probably want Xbox since it will work on PC easier (just plugging it in, rather than running another program).

 

[Tik-Tok]

I'm realizing I really don't like going to events anymore, even locals. They're just too cramped and crowded, and that makes me feel kinda uncomfortable. You occasionally get smells, they're expensive, and there's a ton of waiting- and the waiting in particular impacts my play- it causes me to get impatient as hell when it's finally my turn to play after a 30 min- 1 hr wait. It's just not fun to me. I'm also more comfortable playing in my own house on my own setup instead of some random setup which has different delay.

I understand it can be fun to others, but I think I actually prefer just playing online. I'd rather put up with a little bit of lag than all that other stuff that irritates me more.

Be more social. Then the time between matches is time you get to shoot the shit with your friends.

 

[Passive Assassin]

team :B

 

[NEO0MJ]

I'm realizing I really don't like going to events anymore, even locals. They're just too cramped and crowded, and that makes me feel kinda uncomfortable. You occasionally get smells, they're expensive, and there's a ton of waiting- and the waiting in particular impacts my play- it causes me to get impatient as hell when it's finally my turn to play after a 30 min- 1 hr wait. It's just not fun to me. I'm also more comfortable playing in my own house on my own setup instead of some random setup which has different delay.

I understand it can be fun to others, but I think I actually prefer just playing online. I'd rather put up with a little bit of lag than all that other stuff that irritates me more.

I wish I could attend events at all. Though I can understand your comment about the smell. I imagine it reeks at most events.

 

[Holy Order Sol]

I've seen Smash people get mad at Smash commentators like TKBreezy for using lingo from other fighting games for some reason

 

[Kumubou]

I'm realizing I really don't like going to events anymore, even locals. They're just too cramped and crowded, and that makes me feel kinda uncomfortable. You occasionally get smells, they're expensive, and there's a ton of waiting- and the waiting in particular impacts my play- it causes me to get impatient as hell when it's finally my turn to play after a 30 min- 1 hr wait. It's just not fun to me. I'm also more comfortable playing in my own house on my own setup instead of some random setup which has different delay.

I understand it can be fun to others, but I think I actually prefer just playing online. I'd rather put up with a little bit of lag than all that other stuff that irritates me more.

That's one one of the reasons why I got involved with running events. It really helps addressing all of the waiting around and it helps to get to meet people. That and when you being setups, it makes things way easier to play on setups you are comfortable with (and to make sure the games you want to play make available).

I know with locals here, I push to have a borderline insane number of setups available. Ideally, no one should be waiting to play at all. This doesn't scale up for bigger tournaments, of course. -_-

 

[The Lone Dragon]

They're rebroadcasting SEAM Day 1 on Capcom Fighters: http://www.twitch.tv/capcomfighters

 

[Crocodile]

Any good Smash 4 tournament footage since the new characters and balance changes dropped?

 

[Tripon]

Ultra crossed 2000 for EVO.

 

[Rice-Eater]

SF4 is going to have more entrants than Smash games at Apex?

I already said Smash far exceeded SF4. Point is that they were separated instead of integrated. Same will probably go for next year. And it burns me a little to know that the the 1000+ Smash fans in attendance and the tens of thousands watching at home won't be able to bitch about watching this boring ass FGC game while waiting for their game to start.

If we all have to go through it why should they be exempt lol

 

[Durden77]

Is there any particularly good way to sell a stick? I'm thinking I'm gonna go ahead an invest in USF4 on the PS4 and a PS4 stick so I can be all ready for SFV, and I'd like to sell my 360 stick and use it to help pay for it. It's in good condition and works great.

Well shit, while I was typing this I just thought that I could just get a dual mod right? Is there any word on whether or not SF5 will be supporting PS3 sticks too?

 

[Onemic]

I wish I could attend events at all. Though I can understand your comment about the smell. I imagine it reeks at most events.

The one even I've been to (Toryuken) didnt smell at all. Which majors/events generally have a problem with smell?

 

[theprodigy]

Ultra crossed 2000 for EVO.

dude you're so late to this

 

[Dahbomb]

I already said Smash far exceeded SF4. Point is that they were separated instead of integrated. Same will probably go for next year. And it burns me a little to know that the the 1000+ Smash fans in attendance and the tens of thousands watching at home won't be able to birch about watching this boring ass FGC game while waiting for their game to start.

If we all have to go through it why should they be exempt lol

Oh noes Smash players won't watch SF4.