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Final Fantasy XII (PS2) is still a gorgeous game
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hydrophilic attack
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It's great. Great art direction.
stargateheaven
Member
I fully expected this to have an HD announcment at E3.. 
I fully expected this to have an HD announcment at E3..
As did I. I feel it's coming at some point though. S-E will get all my money if they can deliver.
The Mad Draklor
Member
I hope it gets remastered so I can finally get my hands on the Zodiac edition. My laptop is too weak to emulate it at good settings =/
Visualante2
Member
Vaan's stomach muscles always bothered me. Great game, got back into PS2 because of Okami and this game.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
TGS, believe.
This right here, so much. This is what usually attracts me to IP's, and what has me really sink in and become a fan of them. I knew the moment I started playing it, the world was the star, not the plot or the cast. <3
It's probably why I am also disproportionately obsessed with the output of landscape/world/architechture/creature/vehicle/bestiary/background artists from the gaming and anime industry...
Waldo Lydecker
Member
Although I really love Uematsu FF OST's, this game's OST was something really special. Because of the absence of random battles that broke the shorter music tracks that would play in earlier FF's the music for this game could be more complex and longer because it wouldn't get interrupted by a random battle resulting in pretty amazing and moody tracks.
I really loved this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XygkIvA5B0Q
I really loved this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XygkIvA5B0Q
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
You're not wrong. I even have an XRGB mini and there's only so much it can do. I love old game graphics but this was just on the cusp of the HD transition, and it yearns to be in a higher res than it is. Can't wait for the inevitable remaster.
silver.tongue
Member
Hated the battle system so much...
That alone pushed it all the way down on my favorite FF list.
That alone pushed it all the way down on my favorite FF list.
The Xtortionist
Member
Hated the battle system so much...
That alone pushed it all the way down on my favorite FF list.
I like the idea of it, but the execution is way too slow in most cases. The fast forward button in IZJS fixes that problem, at least.
silver.tongue
Member
Too MMO-ey for me. Useless summons. I never tried the Zodiac Job System version so I'm not really sure it fixes anything.
It's pretty fast if you set the battle speed to max and switch to active mode. If anything, it's much faster than it's predecessors since you aren't stopped every 10 seconds to participate in a random battle.
The Xtortionist
Member
IZJS fixes a lot. Jobs to diversify characters, fast forward, and other stuff. Might be worth checking out a change list.
The general gameflow just feels slow to me, even with those settings. Maybe movement speed also has something to do with it. I just don't like watching my characters hack away at an enemy when I'm not making any inputs. In most games where scenarios are "simulated", you can skip ahead to the end.
FF12 is on the cusp of greatness for me, and while I haven't played IZJS, the changes I've read about would probably put it over the edge.
Yeah, I hope IZJS comes over here via an HD remaster. It seems like it improves the game so much.
Also, if you feel like you aren't in control most of the time, you should turn off gambits for your party leader. I've done that since day 1 of playing the game, and it's my favorite way to play. It might not be a major change, since you're still going to be watching your character do the actions you select for him, but it gives you more control in battles than just setting gambits and holding down the analog stick.
YankeeDonB
Member
Interesting to me that so many people are so fond of the soundtrack. Sakimoto has always left me cold. I don't actively dislike his stuff, and it can be nicely atmospheric, but often it sounds like elevator music. I can remember some of the themes from XII quite well, but they don't really evoke the spirit of their respective locations in my mind
Me too I think it would be silly for them to pass up on remastering it.
badcrumble
Member
I've always been really sad that IZJS has that bullshit "strong game" that starts you at LV90 instead of a real new game+ like FFX-2's (resetting your level but letting you keep your abilities and equipment). And maybe FF3j style job switching. That'd take something already incredible and make it perfect and infinitely replayable.
Squall5042
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I've given up all hope for the HD Remaster
MikeE21286
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I'd kill for an HD remaster with the IZJS version over here in the states.
KILLLL
KILLLL
googleplex
Member
I would do filthy, nasty things for a HD remake of Final Fantasy 12. It's my second favorite main line Final Fantasy.
It's final Fantasy for grown folks.
Edit: Also fuck turn based random encounters. FF12 gambit system and open battle fields have spoiled me.
I've given up all hope for the HD Remaster
Don't give up hope just yet.
HerroRygar
Member
I've been sorely tempted to just emulate IZJS, but I know that the moment I finish they'll announce the HD port and I will cry bitter tears of regret. =(
This is why you play it using pcsx2 and render it at 4x->8x the original resolution. Even on regular SDTV the aliasing in the game was out of control.
I am going to have pop this game back in and look at. I played it a long time ago and don't remember looking like the OP pics. I don't recall it looking that good but I may be confusing it with other titles at this point.
I don't care about an HD release. So far they have not been that impressive. A good story and combat system is all I really care about. What I do WANT is a digital release of the game. Just would like to not have to worry about some scratch on a DVD. Don't care if its Vita or PS3 or PC. I pray they don't put it on PS NOW or whatever that stream service is called.
I don't care about an HD release. So far they have not been that impressive. A good story and combat system is all I really care about. What I do WANT is a digital release of the game. Just would like to not have to worry about some scratch on a DVD. Don't care if its Vita or PS3 or PC. I pray they don't put it on PS NOW or whatever that stream service is called.
marimorimo
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This was the first FF game I played for more than an hour or two. I remember first booting the game and watching the opening scene. My parents couldn't tell that what they were seeing was CG!
I don't remember much of the gameplay, but I do remember being absolutely happy just exploring the world.
I don't remember much of the gameplay, but I do remember being absolutely happy just exploring the world.
cleveridea
Member
lol this game looked horrible when I tried it recently even though I thought it was great back when I first played it near release
the actual assets are great - its the engine thats bad. NPC faces look quite decent but only when they are super super close to the camera (presumably optimised for engine limitations)
Game could be great as a remaster as the actual architecture looks great, some cool monster designs, combat system is quite innovative. Some beautiful locations and music, def would buy remaster even full price if good
the actual assets are great - its the engine thats bad. NPC faces look quite decent but only when they are super super close to the camera (presumably optimised for engine limitations)
Game could be great as a remaster as the actual architecture looks great, some cool monster designs, combat system is quite innovative. Some beautiful locations and music, def would buy remaster even full price if good
MrChowderClams
Member
Yeah I re-played it a few years ago and boy, it feels heavy. The dungeons are also ridiculously long.
I love giruvegan as a location, but fuck me if that dungeon isn't stupid long. Same goes for that damn tower on the island.
Gosh I forgot how long some of those dungeons are like Giruvegan with very few save points seems like there is no quick way to leave that place. I lost a lot of levels in this game with some unfortunate party wipe outs.
MrChowderClams
Member
Gosh I forgot how long some of those dungeons are like Giruvegan with very few save points seems like there is no quick way to leave that place. I lost a lot of levels in this game with some unfortunate party wipe outs.
Yeah, and being stuck there for so long was brutal. Inside the crystal, too, I got turned around in circles and so lost... Oof. Not a great experience at all.
I've given up all hope for the HD Remaster
Well don't. This is happening right now.
Not sure if true or not.
Not a confirmation but a shimmer of hope.
Well don't. This is happening right now.
Not sure if true or not.
Not a confirmation but a shimmer of hope.
Definitely think it's a remaster. Great news regardless.
Yabberwocky
Member
Every time this thread bumps, I think, 'why go into it? There won't be anything there.' But I do open the thread, because hope springs eternal.
YEEEEES. Come to me, remaster, come to me. I'll buy any and all versions.
YEEEEES. Come to me, remaster, come to me. I'll buy any and all versions.
YankeeDonB
Member
If true, and if IZJS, I will be all over it. Good bye another 120 hours of my life =P
Well don't. This is happening right now.
Not sure if true or not.
Not a confirmation but a shimmer of hope.
DO NOT DO THIS TO ME
The Last One
Member
Well don't. This is happening right now.
Not sure if true or not.
Not a confirmation but a shimmer of hope.
This needs a thread.
Well don't. This is happening right now.
Not sure if true or not.
Not a confirmation but a shimmer of hope.
Is there some event on at the moment? I thought Gamescom was next week?