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Dragon Quest 11 Announced! [PS4/3DS (simultaneous), NX (tentative)]

The toggle for the 3DS version sounds good. It's what I would have wanted. As for the PS4 version, I hope it's always 3rd person. Call it irrational, but I've got a general dislike of anything 1st person unless it's a visual novel like 999.
You didn't like the Phantasy Star layout of the 3ds version? Front view enemies, behind the character view of party characters at bottom
 

Shahed

Member
You didn't like the Phantasy Star layout of the 3ds version? Front view enemies, behind the character view of party characters at bottom

Not really. I can't put a reason behind it, but I just simply do not like pretty much anything with a 1st person perpective. I can tolerate it and still enjoy games with it, but I'd rather not haver to. No idea why but it's always been like that. Still as I've always advocated, option are good. They could have a toggle for those who like 1st/3rd person in battles :)
 
I assumed the 3D battles of DQXI 3DS would be like that of DQVIIR on 3DS.

Behind the back, party members just at the bottom edge of the screen.
 
Not really. I can't put a reason behind it, but I just simply do not like pretty much anything with a 1st person perpective. I can tolerate it and still enjoy games with it, but I'd rather not haver to. No idea why but it's always been like that. Still as I've always advocated, option are good. They could have a toggle for those who like 1st/3rd person in battles :)

It's 2015, surely they can give players options like how they want battles to look.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Ōkami;173251338 said:
Square Enix hasn't decided weather its going to be localized or not.

According to eurogamer.

Square Enix has nothing to do with it at this point. If they dont want to, Sony will get it done if Shu's tweets are anything to say about it. They arent going to let Heroes come over without a mainline entree.

Is this where my new tag came from? ;_; All i was saying was that Sony would take over publishing duties if that's what it took to get it released stateside considering its on PS4 and a fairly popular title.

It seems atleast like Shu has learned a lot from Demon's Souls and making snap decisions about not localizing products on their platform that could be possible hits.

They have shown the willingness to work with third parties like Capcom through their third party productions group to go for getting these things through recently
 
Now that I know the 3DS version pretty much plays like classic DQ, I can get behind the PS4 version having a different kind of feel to its own battles. How are the battles in DQX in comparison to the other mainline entries for those who have played it? Is it similar to FFXII or Xenoblade, or something entirely different?
 

Rymuth

Member
Just heard about the 2 mode switching. Great news. Playing both modes at the same time (while fun for a while) could get pretty distracting.

But in the end, as a previous poster mentioned, it's like getting 3 DQ games.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
The brand has been going for 30 years, but i hope all this emphasis on Dragon Quest doesn't mess with the brand power any. Its a very important franchise to take care of
 

Walpurgis

Banned
Is this where my new tag came from? ;_; All i was saying was that Sony would take over publishing duties if that's what it took to get it released stateside considering its on PS4 and a fairly popular title.

It seems atleast like Shu has learned a lot from Demon's Souls and making snap decisions about not localizing products on their platform that could be possible hits.

They have shown the willingness to work with third parties like Capcom through their third party productions group to go for getting these things through recently
Lol that tag is reaching.
 

Figboy79

Aftershock LA
Very awesome. I will be getting it on both PS4 and 3DS. Sad there isn't a Vita version, too, but that's ok. Both versions look great, and very different from each other!
 
Is this where my new tag came from? ;_; All i was saying was that Sony would take over publishing duties if that's what it took to get it released stateside considering its on PS4 and a fairly popular title.

It seems atleast like Shu has learned a lot from Demon's Souls and making snap decisions about not localizing products on their platform that could be possible hits.

They have shown the willingness to work with third parties like Capcom through their third party productions group to go for getting these things through recently

Agreed.
 
Is this where my new tag came from? ;_; All i was saying was that Sony would take over publishing duties if that's what it took to get it released stateside considering its on PS4 and a fairly popular title.

It seems atleast like Shu has learned a lot from Demon's Souls and making snap decisions about not localizing products on their platform that could be possible hits.

They have shown the willingness to work with third parties like Capcom through their third party productions group to go for getting these things through recently

Sony is in full-on good guy mode and is more committed than they've ever been before in getting desired games localised by whatever means it takes. What you wrote was reasonable. It certainly didn't warrant a snarky tag.
 
Guys, what's the most accessible DQ to start with? I've never played one of these games but do own IX on DS because it was on sale for $10 ages ago. Is it noob-friendly?
 

silva1991

Member
Guys, what's the most accessible DQ to start with? I've never played one of these games but do own IX on DS because it was on sale for $10 ages ago. Is it noob-friendly?

I'm playing DQ8 for the first time now and it's very accessible.

I'm guessing all titles are accessible too.
 

Ahnez

Member
Guys, what's the most accessible DQ to start with? I've never played one of these games but do own IX on DS because it was on sale for $10 ages ago. Is it noob-friendly?

DQs are very beginner-friendly

But, in my opinion:

- I, II and III are not good starts

- IV, V and VI should be played in order (all are easy to get into)

- VII, VIII and IX are all very good and easy to get into

So yes, IX is a good start
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Sony is in full-on good guy mode and is more committed than they've ever been before in getting desired games localised by whatever means it takes. What you wrote was reasonable. It certainly didn't warrant a snarky tag.

I actually said something similar in the live stream thread.

On the other hand, you could be stuck for years with something like
<------- This

So yeah, could be worse.
 

Clunker

Member
Guys, what's the most accessible DQ to start with? I've never played one of these games but do own IX on DS because it was on sale for $10 ages ago. Is it noob-friendly?
I think IX is fine - any of them are, really. The series isn't known for crushing difficulty or anything, which is part of why I love it. It's more of a "make your own party of customizable but personality-less heroes and go explore!" DQ as compared to more story-driven ones like IV or V, though.

Of the ones available on DS, I would probably give a slight edge to IV or V out of my own personal preference (V if you're big into monster collection/gathering).
 
Can we expect new and exciting gameplay hooks to be thrown into this or should I prepare for the tried and true DQ formula?

Jumping in the PS4 version will likely change the formula somewhat. But in an interview before the reveal Horii said that going back to the roots of the series was the goal for this game.
 

Shouta

Member
So PS4 version might be like an off-line DQX? If they give me the option to tweak AI some and keep the positional elements in the combat system, I'm fucking sold.
 
I'm playing DQ8 for the first time now and it's very accessible.

I'm guessing all titles are accessible too.

DQs are very beginner-friendly

But, in my opinion:

- I, II and III are not good starts

- IV, V and VI should be played in order (all are easy to get into)

- VII, VIII and IX are all very good and easy to get into

So yes, IX is a good start

I think IX is fine - any of them are, really. The series isn't known for crushing difficulty or anything, which is part of why I love it. It's more of a "make your own party of customizable but personality-less heroes and go explore!" DQ as compared to more story-driven ones like IV or V, though.

Of the ones available on DS, I would probably give a slight edge to IV or V out of my own personal preference (V if you're big into monster collection/gathering).
Thanks guys. Looks like I'll start with IX.
 
I actually said something similar in the live stream thread.

On the other hand, you could be stuck for years with something like
<------- This

So yeah, could be worse.

Well, like about 90% of avatar tags on this site, I have no idea what yours means or what it's referencing, so it just goes completely over my head. Inuhanyou's tag on the other hand is pretty direct in its meaning.
 

Gloam

Member
It'd be neat to have a "mingleplayer" element to DQ11. Like the tavern in DQ10 where you rent out other player characters. Although, with the set protagonist such a system probably wouldn't work as I'd imagine growth, magic and the like is set-in-stone. A party full of Heroes wouldn't be interesting.
 

Shouta

Member
It'd be neat to have a "mingleplayer" element to DQ11. Like the tavern in DQ10 where you rent out other player characters. Although, with the set protagonist such a system probably wouldn't work as I'd imagine growth, magic and the like is set-in-stone. A party full of Heroes wouldn't be interesting.

They very well could have you create a character that joins on the adventure with the hero in the game and that'd be the char you use for that if they have that. =o
 

Shahed

Member
So the PS4 version is actually further along than I thought? And plays similar to what an offline DQX would? Nice. That sounds pretty good. I'd be perfectly happy with something like an AI controlled via a Gambit system a la FFXII, with the ability to step in and take control if need be
 

javadoze

Member
If Dragon Quest XI were only on 3DS, then I'd almost be convinced that the "two different styles on two different screens" thing would tie into the story somehow.
 
There goes my interest in the 3DS version. The double game would have been a very fresh and interesting feature, even if ,,only'' visually, but I don't see the point in having a 2D version separated after the intro. I guess it was too hard adjusting both styles for the entire time...
 

crinale

Member
There goes my interest in the 3DS version. The double game would have been a very fresh and interesting feature, even if ,,only'' visually, but I don't see the point in having a 2D version separated after the intro. I guess it was too hard adjusting both styles for the entire time...

I think that's the reason too. If you have to design the top (3D) part to be always reflected perfectly by bottom part (2D) then you have to make it overly simplistic, and Horii didn't choose that.
With that in mind I doubt 2D-3D changeover after tutorial part has passed won't be "on the fly" either, because at 3D part there must be some place where it just can't be represented in 2D form, especially cross intersections within dungeons, towns & such. I'm expecting on-the-fly switchover is possible at the overworld though.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Really glad to hear the 3ds version will let you switch between the modes. Having both a once was a deal breaker.

Although, I would not leave it past Nintendo to ignore the title, so I may not even get to play it anyways :(
 
Wow, dropping the whole simultaneous 2D/3D feature after the start is a huge, massive bummer. It could have been such a unique and mesmerizing experience to have the whole game be that way, yet they're leaving it all on the table. I don't understand why people are confused as to how it'd work, when the video clearly shows how they sync together both in and out of battle. Even if it's not exactly 1:1 100% of the time, accommodations in how things are "choreographed" on the top or bottom screen could keep things flowing in sync.

Still here for PS4 version, but 3DS version might as well not even exist anymore as far as I'm concerned.
 

watershed

Banned
Wow, dropping the whole simultaneous 2D/3D feature after the start is a huge, massive bummer. It could have been such a unique and mesmerizing experience to have the whole game be that way, yet they're leaving it all on the table. I don't understand why people are confused as to how it'd work, when the video clearly shows how they sync together both in and out of battle. Even if it's not exactly 1:1 100% of the time, accommodations in how things are "choreographed" on the top or bottom screen could keep things flowing in sync.

Still here for PS4 version, but 3DS version might as well not even exist anymore as far as I'm concerned.

They said during the conference that you will be able to switch between the two with the bottom screen being for menus and stuff but no one listened. It was repeated on twitter but got lost in all the hype. It makes more sense this way anyways. The choice is the player's.
 

crinale

Member
The PS4 shots at town seems to have NPCs (kinda difficult to see though) so that backs up what Horii was saying about hiding NPCs on purpose at the stage demo.
As for the battle system it does look similar to that of DQ10 (at least UI looks identical to me). Let's hope it turns out to be great, but I'm not realy doubting it.
 

Buzzati

Banned
I can understand why the online DQX and the handheld games werent localized for the US... But do the mainline Dragon Quest games really not sell well enough in the US and Europe to make localization a question?
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
I can understand why the online DQX and the handheld games werent localized for the US... But do the mainline Dragon Quest games really not sell well enough in the US and Europe to make localization a question?

I think DQ11 on PS4 is a sure thing. The 3DS version i honestly have no idea considering how they are treating the remakes of 7 and 8
 

Eolz

Member
Finding myself not being hyped about the PS4 version until we know how is the NX version.
I have a PS4, but this announcement really just sucked out my interest in this version as long as the possibility of getting other differences on NX is there.
Shame for the 3ds news, but still my favorite version so far.

I think that's the reason too. If you have to design the top (3D) part to be always reflected perfectly by bottom part (2D) then you have to make it overly simplistic, and Horii didn't choose that.
With that in mind I doubt 2D-3D changeover after tutorial part has passed won't be "on the fly" either, because at 3D part there must be some place where it just can't be represented in 2D form, especially cross intersections within dungeons, towns & such. I'm expecting on-the-fly switchover is possible at the overworld though.

Same.

I can understand why the online DQX and the handheld games werent localized for the US... But do the mainline Dragon Quest games really not sell well enough in the US and Europe to make localization a question?

S-E has different sales expectations than your average publisher, and if they can avoid spending money on localizations, they'll do it.
 

Sinople

Member
If DQXI PS4 uses the battle system of X then the 3DS version becomes the best by default.
Positioning is nice but the loss of party control is just terrible.
 

AmyS

Member
Playing PS4 Dragon Quest XI on VITA via Remote Play should be glorious, although it won't be a substitute for the 3DS version so I dearly hope both get a domestic NA release.
 
Really glad to hear the 3ds version will let you switch between the modes. Having both a once was a deal breaker.

Although, I would not leave it past Nintendo to ignore the title, so I may not even get to play it anyways :(

It's not Nintendo's responsibility to localize it and it shouldn't be.
 
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