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Major Nelson Strikes Back

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I do find Xbox's reaction to promotion deals held by other companies to be odd.

Xbox has plenty / has had plenty of 3rd party promotion exclusivity and Sony, as far as I know has never attempted these methods to circumvent restrictions.

Exactly.

MS launched XBO with every multiplat marketing deal and as far as I can remember Sony never tried to circumvent MS contractual agreements. They stayed humble. Never got into the fragrance business or made these types of videos. If it's just harmless fun why the splash screen promos promoting 5 hours early access (not sure if it's 5 or 8 hours.)

XB has done a lot of good but they need to stop with the contradictions at a corporate level. Especially since they are claiming they have the greatest holiday lineup in history. They should stick with that if they truly believe it.
 

MilkyJoe

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The orginals had much more weight or something, the new ones looks very scripted/boring.


I think the word is emotion


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Exactly.

MS launched XBO with every multiplat marketing deal and as far as I can remember Sony never tried to circumvent MS contractual agreements. They stayed humble. Never got into the fragrance business or made these types of videos. If it's just harmless fun why the splash screen promos promoting 5 hours early access (not sure if it's 5 or 8 hours.)

XB has done a lot of good but they need to stop with the contradictions at a corporate level. Especially since they are claiming they have the greatest holiday lineup in history. They should stick with that if they truly believe it.
Who the hell cares?

What? Do you think Sony gets hurt every time Microsoft does something like this? All they're doing with this is saying "Hey, that game is on Xbox too!!!". I found the Destiny fragrance thing kind of funny and I say the same for this one.
 

Ce-Lin

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it's not harming anyone, just a quick reminder that Battlefront is also on Xbox One, can't blame them for trying... but yes the video is kind of embarrassing, maybe I need to be 15 instead of 30.
 
Or maybe they weren't smart enough to think to try.

Anyway, are you arguing against the (albeit a bit hypocritical) mockery of something that most people on this forum think is bullshit?

Right, as if the only reason not to act like a spoiled snot is because it never occurred to anyone else. MS basically invented marketing exclusivity and now that it has turned on them they keep making smarmy ads because of their sour grapes. They aren't poking fun at the practice, they are trying to have their cake and eat it too.
 

2thepoint

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Exactly.

MS launched XBO with every multiplat marketing deal and as far as I can remember Sony never tried to circumvent MS contractual agreements. They stayed humble. Never got into the fragrance business or made these types of videos. If it's just harmless fun why the splash screen promos promoting 5 hours early access (not sure if it's 5 or 8 hours.)

XB has done a lot of good but they need to stop with the contradictions at a corporate level. Especially since they are claiming they have the greatest holiday lineup in history. They should stick with that if they truly believe it.
Desperation at its finest.
 

d9b

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Most aren't but to comment on this video in any manner other than positive is to be a poster who takes things to serious supposedly.

Under those conditions posters like yourself expect this to be nothing more than an echo chamber of positivity for MS PR.


Also a Major Nelson's post is a bit much, victimised it seems.
This, I agree with.
 
Exactly.

MS launched XBO with every multiplat marketing deal and as far as I can remember Sony never tried to circumvent MS contractual agreements. They stayed humble. Never got into the fragrance business or made these types of videos. If it's just harmless fun why the splash screen promos promoting 5 hours early access (not sure if it's 5 or 8 hours.)

XB has done a lot of good but they need to stop with the contradictions at a corporate level. Especially since they are claiming they have the greatest holiday lineup in history. They should stick with that if they truly believe it.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.
 

jem0208

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Exactly.

MS launched XBO with every multiplat marketing deal and as far as I can remember Sony never tried to circumvent MS contractual agreements. They stayed humble. Never got into the fragrance business or made these types of videos. If it's just harmless fun why the splash screen promos promoting 5 hours early access (not sure if it's 5 or 8 hours.)

XB has done a lot of good but they need to stop with the contradictions at a corporate level. Especially since they are claiming they have the greatest holiday lineup in history. They should stick with that if they truly believe it.
This post is bizarre, I really can't tell if it's serious.
 
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JoJo UK

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Exactly.

MS launched XBO with every multiplat marketing deal and as far as I can remember Sony never tried to circumvent MS contractual agreements. They stayed humble. Never got into the fragrance business or made these types of videos. If it's just harmless fun why the splash screen promos promoting 5 hours early access (not sure if it's 5 or 8 hours.)

XB has done a lot of good but they need to stop with the contradictions at a corporate level. Especially since they are claiming they have the greatest holiday lineup in history. They should stick with that if they truly believe it.
Right, as if the only reason not to act like a spoiled snot is because it never occurred to anyone else. MS basically invented marketing exclusivity and now that it has turned on them they keep making smarmy ads because of their sour grapes. They aren't poking fun at the practice, they are trying to have their cake and eat it too.
Holy shit this thread. No fun allowed indeed.
 

T.O.P

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Exactly.

MS launched XBO with every multiplat marketing deal and as far as I can remember Sony never tried to circumvent MS contractual agreements. They stayed humble. Never got into the fragrance business or made these types of videos. If it's just harmless fun why the splash screen promos promoting 5 hours early access (not sure if it's 5 or 8 hours.)

XB has done a lot of good but they need to stop with the contradictions at a corporate level. Especially since they are claiming they have the greatest holiday lineup in history. They should stick with that if they truly believe it.

Desperation at its finest.

Right, as if the only reason not to act like a spoiled snot is because it never occurred to anyone else. MS basically invented marketing exclusivity and now that it has turned on them they keep making smarmy ads because of their sour grapes. They aren't poking fun at the practice, they are trying to have their cake and eat it too.


never change gaf
 

Walpurgis

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when even the pr mouthpiece of ms use the usual Victimisation on gaf(its because its xbox,this is sonygaf yaddayadda),you know we have reached a new low

i find odd that after the mattrick debacle and phil spencer new direction this guy still have a job,in some ways is the personification of some of the problems MS past years

I was pretty shocked at Major's post too. He's usually more composed than the other Microsoft reps that have posted here in the past.

I think the reason why Phil Spencer hasn't fired him is because that would be hypocritical. Phil Spencer was part of the problem too.
 

GoxRx

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Lol.... I love the persecution complex arguement, it is the ultimate cop out.

You must have missed the cloud threads, or the "Quantum Break might be rubbish" thread, every Tomb Raider thread, any comment by Phil Spector threads, the recent MS PC support thread, every Titanfall thread, ect, ect.ect...

Is GAF Sony Gaf? No, but there is a tremendous amount of vitriol in a lot of the MS threads by some people, some even leading to locked threads. Worse to me is that it is consistently tolerated.

There are even people attacking the OP on here for cheerleading MS products... fucking seriously?

On topic... keep it up Major, don't let the negativity get you down.

I agree with everything you said
but his name is Phil Spencer, man ;)

On topic: if he's doing his job and at the same time he's having fun... Well, that's good. The Nintendo line was funny.
 
Count me into the small group of people (in this thread) that found this video hilarious. I mean, it was corny but clearly intentionally so. It's like something you'd expect out of Mega64, and I love those guys. I'd love to see a Major Nelson x Mega64 collaboration some day.

Also, this thread is embarrassing. Not just the personal attacks directed at the OP and Larry, but purveyance of the self-concocted notion that Microsoft are dicks/petty/desperate and should leave Sony's marketing rights alone. I find it great that Microsoft keeps doing these ads, because exclusive marketing is a bullshit practice. One party paying another party to prevent a third party from fully advertising a part of their own product seems borderline anti-competitive to me.
 
I was pretty shocked at Major's post too. He's usually more composed than the other Microsoft reps that have posted here in the past.

I think the reason why Phil Spencer hasn't fired him is because that would be hypocritical. Phil Spencer was part of the problem too.

What problem may I ask? It's just a funny video man, nothing more, nothing less. Sometime the hate is bloody blinding to some.
 

FordGTGuy

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Oh yeah I'm sure Sony is fuming at a YouTube video with a whopping 20k views. What are they ever going to do with all those Battlefront bundles. I guess they better send them to that warehouse in New Zealand.

They took action against a cologne named Destiny, you tell me.
 

Fat4all

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One party paying another party to prevent a third party from fully advertising a part of their own product seems borderline anti-competitive to me.

It's actually pro-competitive. I think you mean anti-consumer, which I'd argue it isn't, but that for another thread.
 
That's why I only give pennies to the Salvation Army.

Your greatness is measured by your kindness; your education and intellect by your modesty; your ignorance is betrayed by your suspicions and prejudices, and your real caliber is measured by the consideration and tolerance you have for others.”

—William J.H. Boetcker
 
when even the pr mouthpiece of ms use the usual Victimisation on gaf(its because its xbox,this is sonygaf yaddayadda),you know we have reached a new low

i find odd that after the mattrick debacle and phil spencer new direction this guy still have a job,in some ways is the personification of some of the problems MS past years
So him saying some of the people here will hate on this because they hate Microsoft is invalid and bs? Have you seen this thread? Or the cloud threads. Or the Crackdown threads. Or the Phil Spencer threads.
 

SilentRob

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I mean, SOMEONE has to enforce Sony's marketing deals, right? Why fans are doing that, acting like they are lawyers working for Sony (I mean, I'm pretty sure if THEY do nothing but giggle at that video), instead of having fun with a silly, light-hearted video, though? Not so sure about that.

Honestly guys. These people working for the companies you're trying to "defend" here have more fun with their job and industry than you have. That's not a great sign.
 

Fat4all

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Your greatness is measured by your kindness; your education and intellect by your modesty; your ignorance is betrayed by your suspicions and prejudices, and your real caliber is measured by the consideration and tolerance you have for others.”

—William J.H. Boetcker

"Baby got it goin' on
A lot of simps won't like this song
'Cause them punks like to hit it and quit it
And I'd rather stay and play
Cause I'm long, and I'm strong
And I'm down to get the friction on."

-Sir Mix A Lot
 
So him saying some of the people here will hate on this because they hate Microsoft is invalid and bs? Have you seen this thread? Or the cloud threads. Or the Crackdown threads. Or the Phil Spencer threads.

Or the Driveclub threads, or the Order threads, or the PSN is down again threads, or the WiiU threads, or the Witcher is better on PC threads?

Stop being such a wet and crying about things that happen to everything else, just because you like xbone best.
 

d9b

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I was pretty shocked at Major's post too. He's usually more composed than the other Microsoft reps that have posted here in the past.

I think the reason why Phil Spencer hasn't fired him is because that would be hypocritical. Phil Spencer was part of the problem too.
Well, Major Nelson was fully onboard the crazy train back in the days of catastrophic Xbox One reveal, backtracking and series of PR disasters. Cringe videos like this certainly don't help the case.
Mattrick, Whitten, Mehdi and Harrison are gone, maybe it's time for MN to take a backseat too.
 

AHindD

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Or the Driveclub threads, or the Order threads, or the PSN is down again threads, or the WiiU threads, or the Witcher is better on PC threads?

Stop being such a wet and crying about things that happen to everything else, just because you like xbone best.

Or the PS4 library is a disaster thread, or the PlayTV is a disaster thread, etc etc etc. People in this thread seam to have selective memory if they feel Sony gets away scott free.
 
Listen here you little shit.
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Well that one made me laugh.

Well, Major Nelson was fully onboard the crazy train back in the days of catastrophic Xbox One reveal, backtracking and series of PR disasters. Cringe videos like this certainly don't help the case.
Mattrick, Whitten, Mehdi and Harrison are gone, maybe it's time for MN to take a backseat too.

He's definitely an anachronism with this new path MS/Spencer are taking, a remnant of the 'We're winning, fuck them!' jock mentality of old, and the timing of Spencer's Eurogamer interview ('I don't goal my team on how Sony are doing') with this is rather unfortunate.
 

MilkyJoe

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Well Major Nelson was fully onboard the crazy train back in the days of catastrophic reveal, backtracking and series of PR disasters. Cringe videos like this certainly don't help the case.
Mattrick, Whitten, Mehdi and Harrison are gone, maybe it's time for MN to take a backseat too.

At my old job some very questionable decisions were made when we bought out. I have a mortgage, so despite my personal reservations, I had to roll in the same direction.

Savvy?
 
Count me into the small group of people (in this thread) that found this video hilarious. I mean, it was corny but clearly intentionally so. It's like something you'd expect out of Mega64, and I love those guys. I'd love to see a Major Nelson x Mega64 collaboration some day.

Also, this thread is embarrassing. Not just the personal attacks directed at the OP and Larry, but purveyance of the self-concocted notion that Microsoft are dicks/petty/desperate and should leave Sony's marketing rights alone. I find it great that Microsoft keeps doing these ads, because exclusive marketing is a bullshit practice. One party paying another party to prevent a third party from fully advertising a part of their own product seems borderline anti-competitive to me.

So should MS attack themselves?

Talk about hypocritical, MS is attacking an awful practice they partake in and practised extensively last gen and at the start of this gen.

Now they are not getting all the rights they are supposedly a beacon of light in the darkness against this practice with a video that is not a commentary in the practice but rather an attempt to circumvent it.
 
Or the Driveclub threads, or the Order threads, or the PSN is down again threads, or the WiiU threads, or the Witcher is better on PC threads?

Stop being such a wet and crying about things that happen to everything else, just because you like xbone best.

Or the PS4 library is a disaster thread, or the PlayTV is a disaster thread, etc etc etc. People in this thread seam to have selective memory if they feel Sony gets away scott free.

but how does that make what he said invalid? yea people hate certain brands. Are you guys agreeing? or just comparing who gets hated the most. Cause its definitely not sony or Nintendo.

EDIT: like this sounds smug or some shit. Wasn't trying to be. Was just seriously trying to get what the point was.
 
Or the PS4 library is a disaster thread, or the PlayTV is a disaster thread, etc etc etc. People in this thread seam to have selective memory if they feel Sony gets away scott free.
Because all those issues with release or network or a trash game not delivering is the same as a tech demo or Phils comment. Completely equal. This isn't about Microsoft getting away "scott free". What are they trying to get away with? Having an amazing crackdown demo? Making fun videos?
 
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