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Mozilla testing build of Firefox with integrated adblocker

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Enter the Dragon Punch

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http://www.geek.com/apps/mozilla-just-built-an-ad-blocker-into-firefox-1631245/

A brand new Developer version of Firefox has been released, and it includes our first real look at Mozilla’s enhanced tracking protection features. So far, it looks like a major change from the woefully ineffective Do Not Track. The new tracking protection is so effective, in fact, that if you fire it up on a website there’s a good chance that you’ll see it ad-free.
Ad networks and content providers didn’t like it one bit when Microsoft decided to turn Do Not Track support on by default in Internet Explorer. If that move ruffled their feathers, you can bet they’ll be absolutely outraged to see their ads broken by the new tracking protection in Firefox.
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It’s only live in the Developer and Aurora builds of Firefox, and it’s currently meant as an enhancement for the browser’s private browsing mode. Mozilla’s making the assumption (a safe one) that if you’ve consciously clicked in to a private window that you really, really want your privacy respected.
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This article really seems to dance around the big reason for this... Skeevy porn site ads. Can't see any other reason it'd be exclusive to the private browsing/incognito mode of the browser, and I can't see Mozilla ever integrating it 100% into the regular browsing experience.

I mean, add-ons already are there if you really want an adblocker, and they don't do a blanket block like this. You can at least whitelist sites.

Delete my cookies if old.
 
Sinfamy

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I wouldn't hate ads so much if they just tried to sell me a product or service in a simple banned ad, but I don't consent to bring tracked or having my screen taken over.
 
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Linus

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Angelus Errare said:
They gonna add a feature that stops FF from crashing so frequently? That'd be a neat feature to integrate into FF...
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Have you tried toggling off hardware acceleration in the advanced settings for a while? Not saying it's a definite solution but it's a common cause of crashes.
 
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pgtl_10

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I hate ads that automatically start a video. They are the worse. Websites with more than one video are awful.
 
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Jinkies

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The real win to be had here (other than "privacy," which is something of a red herring) is battery life.

It's interesting that Brendan Eich's influence and ideas are still very strongly felt in Mozilla's overall direction. Now that we've won the war, maybe we should forgive him his personal beliefs.
 
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injurai

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Angelus Errare said:
They gonna add a feature that stops FF from crashing so frequently? That'd be a neat feature to integrate into FF...
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Man I use Chrome on one computer and FF on the other, and I never run into any of the issues that pretty much all of Gaf likes to complain about.
 
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Dicer

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injurai said:
Man I use Chrome on one computer and FF on the other, and I never run into any of the issues that pretty much all of Gaf likes to complain about.
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I swear they make the shit up, or run their computers like a dime store hooker...I use both and both are stable.
 
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MiszMasz

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injurai said:
Man I use Chrome on one computer and FF on the other, and I never run into any of the issues that pretty much all of Gaf likes to complain about.
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Dicer said:
I swear they make the shit up, or run their computers like a dime store hooker...I use both and both are stable.
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Same. Firefox is a little slower to react to input and opening new/switching tabs, but otherwise I've not had a browser freeze or crash since the Windows XP days.

ChubbyHuggs said:
I hate having multiple tabs open and going, "Where the fuck is that music coming from!?!?!?"
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Chrome shows a little speaker icon on any tab producing sound.
 
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A Link to the Past

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First post nails it. The problem with ads, the reason why I use AdBlock, isn't that there are ads. The problem is that people don't pay attention to the ads, so the ads become super invasive. This causes people to block ads. So more people are ignoring ads, which causes the ads to get worse. This causes more people to block ads, and then...

Seriously, it is as though they don't understand that the things they are doing to get around ad blockers is making people block ads. Short-term gains, like tracking information, become long-term losses and heightened effort to regain attention.
 
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Pandy

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A Link to the Snitch said:
First post nails it. The problem with ads, the reason why I use AdBlock, isn't that there are ads. The problem is that people don't pay attention to the ads, so the ads become super invasive. This causes people to block ads. So more people are ignoring ads, which causes the ads to get worse. This causes more people to block ads, and then...

Seriously, it is as though they don't understand that the things they are doing to get around ad blockers is making people block ads. Short-term gains, like tracking information, become long-term losses and heightened effort to regain attention.
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I agree.
It's getting to the point that internet tracking/ads, along with things like spam e-mails and (in the UK) phonecalls for PPI and false accident claims, they are so invasive that they are eventually going to force internet provider or government regulation on themselves.
 
jediyoshi

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I think I might stick with this build until they bring the UI over to the public one.

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ffdgh

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Sinfamy said:
I wouldn't hate ads so much if they just tried to sell me a product or service in a simple banned ad, but I don't consent to bring tracked or having my screen taken over.
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This...and then there are the ones that are videos with high volume, and bring chrome to a halt sometimes.
 
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Sir_Crocodile

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man, developer edition FF in general is so good. has multicore support and is fast as hell.

I switched to it a month ago with no regrets. I know it's bleeding edge and has a far greater chance of sporting bugs every now and then (and updates every day), but its been rock solid for me. Plus the theme is cool
 
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sinxtanx

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Sir_Crocodile said:
man, developer edition FF in general is so good. has multicore support and is fast as hell.

I switched to it a month ago with no regrets. I know it's bleeding edge and has a far greater chance of sporting bugs every now and then (and updates every day), but its been rock solid for me. Plus the theme is cool
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I switched to the dev edition to try multithreading and it lagged as if it depended on lag to survive
my question then was of course "what the hell?" followed by "why?"

Anyone else who is experiencing this: switch to uBlock from AdBlock Plus. ABP does NOT play well with multithreading in FF. I feel this should be a built-in prompt, almost.
 
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Sir_Crocodile

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sinxtanx said:
I switched to the dev edition to try multithreading and it lagged as if it depended on lag to survive
my question then was of course "what the hell?" followed by "why?"

Anyone else who is experiencing this: switch to uBlock from AdBlock Plus. ABP does NOT play well with multithreading in FF. I feel this should be a built-in prompt, almost.
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Should be something that people are doing anyway as ABP has bigger overhead then ublock origin in general
 
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Vanguard

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MiszMasz said:
Chrome shows a little speaker icon on any tab producing sound.
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Speaking of which in case anyone hasn't or isn't aware, in chrome enter this into the address bar and enable it: chrome://flags/#enable-tab-audio-muting

Then restart chrome. Last I checked this wasn't on by default, but now you can click the speaker icon to mute the tab.


Also keep meaning to go back to firefox but every time I do I always end up back with chrome :\
 
jediyoshi

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Man the dev build is weird. Doesn't have the ability to alt click links to select their text and can't disable the enter fullscreen warning which are both in public. Does have chrome's tab mute audio feature though.
 
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Angelus Errare

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Linus said:
Have you tried toggling off hardware acceleration in the advanced settings for a while? Not saying it's a definite solution but it's a common cause of crashes.
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Meh, I switched to Chrome ages ago. The fact hardware acceleration is still wonky in FF is really tragic.

injurai said:
Man I use Chrome on one computer and FF on the other, and I never run into any of the issues that pretty much all of Gaf likes to complain about.
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It has to do with Firefox memory allocation and usage (ie having multiple tabs open). It's compounded if you have multiple tabs open that initialize the flash plugin container (many which are unbeknownst to the end user since they're ads). And since Firefox still uses 1 process to manage everything because apparently vast majority of FF users have like 2GB of ram total or some shit, when FF's memory allocation hits it's peak or any of the flash plugin containers from each tab crashes it takes the whole browser with it.

This could easily be solved if Mozilla switched to a process per tab scheme...
 
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Guevara

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The future of the ad-supported web is not pretty.

I already believed in "peak advertising", the theory that overall ad revenue will decline, but this ad-blocker war is probably accelerating that trend.
 
Cramoss

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Sir_Crocodile said:
man, developer edition FF in general is so good. has multicore support and is fast as hell.

I switched to it a month ago with no regrets. I know it's bleeding edge and has a far greater chance of sporting bugs every now and then (and updates every day), but its been rock solid for me. Plus the theme is cool
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Just tried it and man, it's night and day.
 
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