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Former Harry Potter fan-podcaster does not take rejection well
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Must be those dammed children of the corn.
captainnapalm
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ComputerBlue
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Love Mugglenet, still go there and COSforums from time to time.
But man this dude really needs to tone it right the fuck down.
But man this dude really needs to tone it right the fuck down.
What is up with Gaf flipping out whenever someone blocks someone on social media?
A Link to the Past
Banned
I think it was mostly for identification purposes; a few people in this thread were familiar with him, so he definitely had SOME recognition.
VincentMatts
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Ended up a lot better like this im sure.
excelsiorlef
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Please be satire/sarcasm.
#NotAllMuggles
DoktorEvil
Banned
It's not unrelated. The two knew each other in earlier days, apparently hanging out in the "Harry Potter fan scene".
I puked a little bit saying that sentence.
I definitely agree with the general concept, and it's entirely possible some people in this thread have gone too far outside this forum. I'm not sure.
But I would add that people (not just Ben Schoen) make things exponentially more difficult for themselves when they refuse to apologize for what is an obvious error.
Instead of recognizing that he was wrong, Schoen has not just refused to apologize, he's doubled down, insisting he is the truly righteous one. We see this sometimes on GAF; someone makes a silly error, sometimes even a trifling one, and that error is pointed out to him. But instead of admitting he was wrong and apologizing, the poster doubles down and attacks everyone who disagrees with him as a fanboy or an idiot or what have you. These sorts of tirades always end up exponentially worse than they would have been if the person had just "taken the L" and moved on.
Human beings really, really hate "taking the L," though. And I include myself in this.
A Link to the Past
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Or maybe she could do what she did because she doesn't want to deal with creepy nerds
Considering how famous it is, I'd have to agree with ya :v It was a pretty solid scene.
There's no controversy in what you're saying. Its just being pointed out that its a shallow take that ignores what is really happening in this instance. You said that people are acting with the intention of suicide being an outcome. As a warning. Thats a jump from what has been going on in this thread, his history, his tweet interaction/wars with strangers. Hes actively discussing with people, communicating with social media. He's having a laugh.
This isn't just the internet laughing at a person and targeting them for harassment. if it was, I think you'd almost have a point. Acting the same way he was with these women.
As I said before, I understand the universal meaning of not mob-shaming. But this guy doesn't seem to be a viable candidate for that actual discussion. Hes just an asshole harassing women and being misogynistic live on the internet. Would be significant to mention if this wasn't the case, or even debate. But, its like hes doing a live show and you're giving the callers shit as he might kill himself if they keep it up? Thats some suggestion.
bodyofanamerican
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Yeah, that's why I worded it that way, because I listened to his damn podcast back in 2007!
ElectricBlanketFire
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Badwin and Del Toro were farting through the whole thing, which is why Gabriel Byrne is covering his nose.
Beats me.
Haha, your thread is exactly what I was thinking of.
TimeEffect
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Ahh. This wouldn't be so bad if he just apologized and explained his "Faux fanboy" act without the angry tweets and drawn out apology where he pretends to be a helpful entrepreneur. The apology is hilariously self serving.
Also Patryn, using her name so casually also adds to the creepiness. I'm guessing he's never actually met her?
Ganzlinger
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Sirpopopop
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Yeah, by all rights I should be entertained by this, but I can't watch a complete breakdown like this.
Dude just needs to take the 'L' and move on.
Dude just needs to take the 'L' and move on.
ElectricBlanketFire
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"She started it!"
I realize that people need to realize that they are indeed in "L column." That is an important component to stopping and changing their behavior. What frame of mind they realize this in can vary wildly, and I think without much notice on our end. What we have seen countless times, is that once a realization occurs, no matter what psychological state the person is and no matter the level of actual remorse and regret, the internet is not going to instantly stop. No one is at the controls to stop when this guy inevitably realizes what he has done.
ZombieSupaStar
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To be fair that goes for both sexes. People need to understand being a good person and doing good things does not mean good things WILL happen for them or should be expected. We kind of do a disservice there teaching kids that. Honestly most of the time relationships and how they come about are about as predictable as playing darts blindfolded.
partyphone
Banned
there's this bizarre notion circling around the shittier people on the internet that the freedom of speech is an absolute right and blocking someone on a social network is censorship and that block lists are libel.
the argument boils down to: I want to force you to listen to the stupid bullshit I say.
If you want to chase after the guy on twitter or other social media, well, we can't stop you. But please don't post about it here.
I don't think this is particularly a gaf thing. Just look at the countless meltdowns last year over freebsdgirl's Good Game Autoblocker tool. People get upset when other people ignore them or refuse to listen to them, and blocking can feel like a digital extension of that. I think the reaction is misplaced, but I can understand where it comes from.
I don't think this is particularly a gaf thing. Just look at the countless meltdowns last year over freebsdgirl's Good Game Autoblocker tool. People get upset when other people ignore them or refuse to listen to them, and blocking can feel like a digital extension of that. I think the reaction is misplaced, but I can understand where it comes from.
Basically my reaction to the first two tweets and then going down it just gets worse.
friskykillface
Banned
Whoa 0_o
At times I think I take the biggest of L's x seem desperate but I continue to find out I'm far from it
Holy shit that guy is thirsty
At times I think I take the biggest of L's x seem desperate but I continue to find out I'm far from it
Holy shit that guy is thirsty
NobleGundam
Banned
The deep end indeed. Wow.
Blocking complete strangers that give you a weird vibe on social media shouldn't be an action that is even questioned. You have the right to completely control who can and cannot interact with you. Him being a bit butthurt about getting blocked is understandable but his actions since then prove once again that the gut instinct you get about a person is often for good reason. If she hadn't blocked him, he probably would've kept tweeting her/messaging her on Facebook and then when his messages went unanswered, he would've flipped out anyway.
That is the scary part of all this. How do you direct a guy to change behavior without them resorting to the two extremes of reacting out. The internet is far too similar to a roundhouse kick off the edge than the help down the ladder.
Why should it ever be on her to make it easier on a dude being CREEPY AS FUCK?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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This is what happens when people shelter themselves from the outside world and don't know how to handle basic social interactions. This dude is pathetic. If you protect yourself from getting rejected your entire life, you'll have no idea how to react when it happens to you.
The dude seems to have the "nice guy entitlement" thing going. As in, "I'm nice. I think I'm a feminist. I'm not a pickup artist. Girls should like me!"
Which then all falls apart upon hitting a certain level of rejection, and suddenly all the Redpill guys were right all along, because if you're a nice guy and women still reject you, then they must have been feminazis all along, and at least the Redpill guys have your back.
I see this shit happening more and more, and it sickens me, not least of all because I could have been like this dude in high school had things gone differently.
Which then all falls apart upon hitting a certain level of rejection, and suddenly all the Redpill guys were right all along, because if you're a nice guy and women still reject you, then they must have been feminazis all along, and at least the Redpill guys have your back.
I see this shit happening more and more, and it sickens me, not least of all because I could have been like this dude in high school had things gone differently.
You have to get people to admit there is a large problem with men harassing women online/in the world. The only proof of this is screenshots/emails/messages. Its almost a symptom of the problem. Being outed publicly, when you're terrorising people in private. Or women so intimidated that they don't feel comfortable having the discussion due to them being targeted for retaliation. Lets not forget, there is support for his mindset. A good % of people won't see anything wrong with the initial issue at hand. How do you prove someone is leaving you disgusting messages without showing the world they are leaving you disgusting messages.
But, this man and his issues aren't really the ground level of a healthy discussion about changing behavior. That behavior has multiple reasons why its accepted, and is a very large discussion. Mob-Shaming online isn't a suggestion to solve any of the worlds problems. I don't think anyone believes otherwise.
A step in the right direction is society noting there's a problem. And making it so that women can be open about their experiences without getting death threats.
Tertullian
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That punchable faces thread still on the front page? Because these two...
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Yep. He's got no social skills and coping mechanisms, which leaves her with no options. She blocks him and he loses it, or she ignores him and he loses it, or she responds negatively to him and he loses it. He traps her through aggressive boundary crossing and trying to trick her by offering fake jobs because he has no way to relate and connect with her normally.
DrForester
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Rejecto!
Correct, there's no indication that they've ever met. It sounds like they were only Facebook friends because she added him years ago because she was a fan of the podcast.
Perfect Cha0s
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I just really hope that there's at least one voice inside this guy, even if it's getting drowned out, saying "maybe I am the problem."
I mean, FFS, what reality does this guy live in?
I mean, FFS, what reality does this guy live in?
DoktorEvil
Banned
WHO?
I know of him, don't post the thread.
I find it incredibly hard to sympathize with a guy that created a stream for people to mock his intelligence RE: his Twitter spew.
Littlefang
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Guys he doesn't like the title of this thread. He doesn't want to be associated with Harry Potter anymore. And here we go with the men's rights. He's trying so hard to dissociate himself from those guys.
Admiral Woofington
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Harry Potter and the trigger of azkaban
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