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Ashley Madison infidelity site's customer data stolen

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take it you've never been a victim of infidelity

It still doesn't justify it. Do you have data on how many people have actually gone through with cheating? Do you have data on who is in an open relationship and wishes to be discreet about it? Do you have data on who is in a relationship at all?

We all agree that infidelity is a relationship issue and that it ain't cool. What's not cool is how they've invaded privacy, even on those that ARE running around in secret.
 

Cybrwzrd

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take it you've never been a victim of infidelity

What is a victim of infidelity? Is it the person doing the cheating because of a lack of intimacy in a relationship or is it the person being cheated on due to a lack of intimacy in the relationship? Cheating (and I don't mean on a boyfriend or girlfriend, because that is not real) does not happen in a void. I place as much blame on the cheated on side as on the cheater when a relationship breaks down to the point that one side feels the need for that.

I would have to say that divorce is a hell of a lot harder emotionally and financially on a person than letting a spouse get a little on the side. Let alone what happens to the kids. Divorce creates victims, infidelity just causes butt hurt.
 

Mobius 1

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What is a victim of infidelity? Is it the person doing the cheating because of a lack of intimacy in a relationship or is it the person being cheated on due to a lack of intimacy in the relationship? Cheating (and I don't mean on a boyfriend or girlfriend, because that is not real) does not happen in a void. I place as much blame on the cheated on side as on the cheater when a relationship breaks down to the point that one side feels the need for that.

I would have to say that divorce is a hell of a lot harder emotionally and financially on a person than letting a spouse get a little on the side. Let alone what happens to the kids. Divorce creates victims, infidelity just causes butt hurt.

You can't be fucking serious.
 

Herbs

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What is a victim of infidelity? Is it the person doing the cheating because of a lack of intimacy in a relationship or is it the person being cheated on due to a lack of intimacy in the relationship? Cheating (and I don't mean on a boyfriend or girlfriend, because that is not real) does not happen in a void. I place as much blame on the cheated on side as on the cheater when a relationship breaks down to the point that one side feels the need for that.

I would have to say that divorce is a hell of a lot harder emotionally and financially on a person than letting a spouse get a little on the side. Let alone what happens to the kids. Divorce creates victims, infidelity just causes butt hurt.

This right here is what delusion is like. Thanks for the insight.
 

Dicer

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This right here is what delusion is like. Thanks for the insight.

So a different perspective is delusion, got it...

Guess what folks, not everyone has the same moral compass or views on what's allowed to go on between two consenting adults, or adults that want to be with each other but also want some on the side. It happens, and just because you don't happen to agree doesn't make it wrong.

This topic is amusing, so many "well, they deserve it" so as long as the person is doing something you don't agree with then their privacy is up for grabs...awesome!!!
 
What is a victim of infidelity? Is it the person doing the cheating because of a lack of intimacy in a relationship or is it the person being cheated on due to a lack of intimacy in the relationship? Cheating (and I don't mean on a boyfriend or girlfriend, because that is not real) does not happen in a void. I place as much blame on the cheated on side as on the cheater when a relationship breaks down to the point that one side feels the need for that.

I would have to say that divorce is a hell of a lot harder emotionally and financially on a person than letting a spouse get a little on the side. Let alone what happens to the kids. Divorce creates victims, infidelity just causes butt hurt.

Im obviously not progressive enough for this new age shit, smh.
 

Resilient

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I don't care if my SO sucks a dozen cocks and then comes home and gives me a big old smoocharooney. Guess I'm just a more mature adult than the rest of you scrub kids.



I embrace my future as a simpering cuck.

as long my SO didn't pay any interest on her ashley madison credit transactions, i'm not really fussed lol i understand that people have needs, i'm just glad she is doing it online and not with strangers.
 
as long my SO didn't pay any interest on her ashley madison credit transactions, i'm not really fussed lol i understand that people have needs, i'm just glad she is doing it online and not with strangers.

It's totally my fault that my SO is banging around, I mean I must have done something wrong or else it wouldn't happen, right? The mature thing to do when you just lose interest in someone is to sleep around while trying to prop up the a sad fake relationship.
 

Herbs

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So a different perspective is delusion, got it...

Guess what folks, not everyone has the same moral compass or views on what's allowed to go on between two consenting adults, or adults that want to be with each other but also want some on the side. It happens, and just because you don't happen to agree doesn't make it wrong.

This topic is amusing, so many "well, they deserve it" so as long as the person is doing something you don't agree with then their privacy is up for grabs...awesome!!!

Yes, when that perspective couches their beliefs in an absolute truth applied to everyone, yes it is very delusional.
 
So a different perspective is delusion, got it...

Guess what folks, not everyone has the same moral compass or views on what's allowed to go on between two consenting adults, or adults that want to be with each other but also want some on the side. It happens, and just because you don't happen to agree doesn't make it wrong.

This topic is amusing, so many "well, they deserve it" so as long as the person is doing something you don't agree with then their privacy is up for grabs...awesome!!!

Cheating doesn't happen in a void. That's true, but it also doesn't happen if you have a good level of communication and you're able to properly convey your feelings to your partner.

Opting to cheat instead of trying to address the problem and then trying to justify it by placing just as much blame on the person you're cheating on isn't a different perspective. It's stupid ass broken reasoning to try and lessen the blame of the cheater and make then feel they are justified in their cheating.

If you've communicated that you're not happy and nothing changes, leave the relationship. It's clear at that point nothing will change, so why continue to stay in a relationship that's doomed?

Because they are comfortable in their position? Won't somebody please think of the children? As if cheating doesn't have an impact on children, but let's pretend children aren't perceptive and don't pick up on signals from their parents.
 

Resilient

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It's totally my fault that my SO is banging around, I mean I must have done something wrong or else it wouldn't happen, right? The mature thing to do when you just lose interest in someone is to sleep around while trying to prop up the a sad fake relationship.

hm i think you're a bit off base here. i at least understand that my SO still loves me, she just gets what she needs from others, something i can't give. it's not a sad fake relationship, it's a fulfilling relationship built on communication on trust. if you open your mind and your potential relationships to this idea, you can get much much more out of them. we have a strong bond that you don't get out of a ordinary relationship.
 
So a different perspective is delusion, got it...

Guess what folks, not everyone has the same moral compass or views on what's allowed to go on between two consenting adults, or adults that want to be with each other but also want some on the side. It happens, and just because you don't happen to agree doesn't make it wrong.

This topic is amusing, so many "well, they deserve it" so as long as the person is doing something you don't agree with then their privacy is up for grabs...awesome!!!

If the two adults are consenting then it won't be news that one or both of them is on Ashley Madison. If one partner is on without the other's knowledge then there wasn't consent. Its a violation of basic trust and honestly the leakers are doing the other partner a service by exposing it.
 
hm i think you're a bit off base here. i at least understand that my SO still loves me, she just gets what she needs from others, something i can't give. it's not a sad fake relationship, it's a fulfilling relationship built on communication on trust. if you open your mind and your potential relationships to this idea, you can get much much more out of them. we have a strong bond that you don't get out of a ordinary relationship.

This is you?

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/what-open-marriage-taught-one-man-about-feminism.html
 
hm i think you're a bit off base here. i at least understand that my SO still loves me, she just gets what she needs from others, something i can't give. it's not a sad fake relationship, it's a fulfilling relationship built on communication on trust. if you open your mind and your potential relationships to this idea, you can get much much more out of them. we have a strong bond that you don't get out of a ordinary relationship.

To each their own, but the bolded should be elaborated upon.
 
Here's the thing; whatever your moral stance on cheating, it's irrelevant. What happens between adults in a relationship is their own business. The people here running their mouths about how 'they got what they deserved' are wrong. No one deserves to have their privacy violated. No one deserves to have their personal business aired all over the internet. No one deserves to have their identity stolen. It's sad to see people who would normally be against this kind of thing turn around and celebrate it when the victims happen to be someone who was doing something they don't agree with. That's not how it works.
 

params7

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I care less about whether or not their identity is stolen and more about whether or not this leak will let their spouse know that their wife/husband might have STDs. If someone wants "a bit of excitement" in their life, they can jump off a cliff.


Or they can simply divorce. Marriages can turn boring, that's the struggle one signed up for and if you can't manage it or turn it around. just divorce and go have sex.

Cheating is never justified, imo.


Here's the thing; whatever your moral stance on cheating, it's irrelevant. What happens between adults in a relationship is their own business. The people here running their mouths about how 'they got what they deserved' are wrong. No one deserves to have their privacy violated. No one deserves to have their personal business aired all over the internet. No one deserves to have their identity stolen. It's sad to see people who would normally be against this kind of thing turn around and celebrate it when the victims happen to be someone who was doing something they don't agree with. That's not how it works.

Hey, that's what I said about Hulk Hogan.
 
my SO shows me each conversation and interaction which takes places before she meets these people. we share it together. what would you like elaborated?

Why is your bond not something that can come of an ordinary relationship? Is it simply the "open" component?
 
Here's the thing; whatever your moral stance on cheating, it's irrelevant. What happens between adults in a relationship is their own business. The people here running their mouths about how 'they got what they deserved' are wrong. No one deserves to have their privacy violated. No one deserves to have their personal business aired all over the internet. No one deserves to have their identity stolen. It's sad to see people who would normally be against this kind of thing turn around and celebrate it when the victims happen to be someone who was doing something they don't agree with. That's not how it works.

Would you feel the same if members of a child pornography ring were outed?
 
Comparing consenting adults having affairs to a child pornography ring. Well done, really.

Again the issue is consent. This wouldn't an issue if their partners consented. And yes, its relevant if the poster's position is that privacy is absolute and not determined by the morality of the action. Otherwise where is the line drawn?
 

toxicgonzo

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Comparing consenting adults having affairs to a child pornography ring. Well done, really.

Delusional and kind of broken consenting adults v. people who ruin the lives of children.

Uhhhhhhhhhh....

Again the issue is consent. This wouldn't an issue if their partners consented. And yes, its relevant if the poster's position is that privacy is absolute and not determined by the morality of the action. Otherwise where is the line drawn?
You all missed the point. The point was whether or not you would feel this way if the data released was from a group that you find morally repulsive. He wasn't really comparing cheaters to pedos.
 
What is a victim of infidelity? Is it the person doing the cheating because of a lack of intimacy in a relationship or is it the person being cheated on due to a lack of intimacy in the relationship? Cheating (and I don't mean on a boyfriend or girlfriend, because that is not real) does not happen in a void. I place as much blame on the cheated on side as on the cheater when a relationship breaks down to the point that one side feels the need for that.

I would have to say that divorce is a hell of a lot harder emotionally and financially on a person than letting a spouse get a little on the side. Let alone what happens to the kids. Divorce creates victims, infidelity just causes butt hurt.

Peach !
 

Walpurgis

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Excellent.
What is a victim of infidelity? Is it the person doing the cheating because of a lack of intimacy in a relationship or is it the person being cheated on due to a lack of intimacy in the relationship? Cheating (and I don't mean on a boyfriend or girlfriend, because that is not real) does not happen in a void. I place as much blame on the cheated on side as on the cheater when a relationship breaks down to the point that one side feels the need for that.

I would have to say that divorce is a hell of a lot harder emotionally and financially on a person than letting a spouse get a little on the side. Let alone what happens to the kids. Divorce creates victims, infidelity just causes butt hurt.

You are a sad person.
 

fuzzyset

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What is a victim of infidelity? Is it the person doing the cheating because of a lack of intimacy in a relationship or is it the person being cheated on due to a lack of intimacy in the relationship? Cheating (and I don't mean on a boyfriend or girlfriend, because that is not real) does not happen in a void. I place as much blame on the cheated on side as on the cheater when a relationship breaks down to the point that one side feels the need for that.

I would have to say that divorce is a hell of a lot harder emotionally and financially on a person than letting a spouse get a little on the side. Let alone what happens to the kids. Divorce creates victims, infidelity just causes butt hurt.

This is a disturbing line of thinking.
 
Here's the thing; whatever your moral stance on cheating, it's irrelevant. What happens between adults in a relationship is their own business. The people here running their mouths about how 'they got what they deserved' are wrong. No one deserves to have their privacy violated. No one deserves to have their personal business aired all over the internet. No one deserves to have their identity stolen. It's sad to see people who would normally be against this kind of thing turn around and celebrate it when the victims happen to be someone who was doing something they don't agree with. That's not how it works.

I don't agree with people littering on the street. I don't agree with that Beyonce makes diverse music.

Cheating on your spouse, deceiving and emotionally abusing them, is not something "you don't agree with". Don't underplay the significance of what it is.
 

Alebrije

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What is a victim of infidelity? Is it the person doing the cheating because of a lack of intimacy in a relationship or is it the person being cheated on due to a lack of intimacy in the relationship? Cheating (and I don't mean on a boyfriend or girlfriend, because that is not real) does not happen in a void. I place as much blame on the cheated on side as on the cheater when a relationship breaks down to the point that one side feels the need for that.

Not often you see victim blaming spelled out like this. Nice work.
 

Cybrwzrd

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Oh wow I am loving the hate here.

The unhappy one in the relationship - the one who is doing the cheating - is somehow always the monster, right?. No blame ever on the one being cheated on, right?

Adult relationships are never so cut and dry as to be black and white. There usually is a hell of a lot of gray in there that can more than justify cheating.
 

fuzzyset

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I don't agree with people littering on the street. I don't agree with that Beyonce makes diverse music.

Cheating on your spouse, deceiving and emotionally abusing them, is not something "you don't agree with". Don't underplay the significance of what it is.

This is why vigilante justice is bad. You're already assuming every single person leaked committed adultery (sleeping with a married person) without their partner's consent (cheating). To you, every single person in that database is guilty. People could be exploring an open marriage (aka adultery but not cheating). Their personal details and fetishes are now out in the open which is not OK.
 
Oh wow I am loving the hate here.

The unhappy one in the relationship - the one who is doing the cheating - is somehow always the monster, right?. No blame ever on the one being cheated on, right?

Adult relationships are never so cut and dry as to be black and white. There usually is a hell of a lot of gray in there that can more than justify cheating.

So how much of your info is in the leak anyway
 

Future

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Oh wow I am loving the hate here.

The unhappy one in the relationship - the one who is doing the cheating - is somehow always the monster, right?. No blame ever on the one being cheated on, right?

Adult relationships are never so cut and dry as to be black and white. There usually is a hell of a lot of gray in there that can more than justify cheating.

You are actually speaking truth. Don't let the purists get to you.

Cheating is bad, sure. But sometimes it happens not just 1 person is a bastard but because there is an issue from both sides in the relationship. Divorce is a traumatic option that isn't always the first choice
 
Oh wow I am loving the hate here.

The unhappy one in the relationship - the one who is doing the cheating - is somehow always the monster, right?. No blame ever on the one being cheated on, right?

Adult relationships are never so cut and dry as to be black and white. There usually is a hell of a lot of gray in there that can more than justify cheating.

Justify cheating? Give me a break. In your so called adult relationships the cheater should be "adult" enough to step up and end the relationship or bring up any of these issues that you seem to think would justify cheating.
 

fuzzyset

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You are actually speaking truth. Don't let the purists get to you.

Cheating is bad, sure. But sometimes it happens not just 1 person is a bastard but because there is an issue from both sides in the relationship. Divorce is a traumatic option that isn't always the first choice

Marriage is a union of two people. "Taking matters into your own hands" is not how you solve marital issues. Talk to them. Work it out. If you're so fucking horny, that you can't just jerk it, you get to explain to the kids that their parents are divorced because Mommy/Daddy values their sex life above the kids well-being.
 
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