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When did nerds become really shitty people?
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Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
This sums it up pretty well, everyone that used to mock them for liking those things are now enjoying bastardized versions of those very same things. Cultural appropriation, I tells ya.
The Shadow
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SenjutsuSage
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Being a "nerd" is now pretty damn popular, and pretty much has been for quite some time now. So what you're noticing is how most people typically act when they fail to maintain a sense of respect and humility when dealing with other people. They see any kind of perception of elevated status as an excuse to berate and look down on others.
These people, you don't call them "nerds," just call them assholes, which makes them the same as all the other assholes who aren't "nerds."
These people, you don't call them "nerds," just call them assholes, which makes them the same as all the other assholes who aren't "nerds."
Nerd hobbies/media are constantly alienating the "original" fans. See all of DC's reboots.
Didn't mean to say that it didn't, just pointing to the hypocrisy of nerds who complain about other groups being shallow.
There's no winning as a female nerd.
Soltype
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I think that has more to do with them not being very good actresses.
It depends on how much of a deviation has taken place, but comic books have always tried to reach new fans throughout the years.Sometimes it is for the sake of fixing problems in the universe.I can't speak for anyone else, but I've never felt a reboot was done to water down the material to reach the masses.
More_Badass
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Got it backwards. Some shitty people happen to be "nerds".
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Done. Also people are and can be annoying brats. Good people exist in the mountain of dirt though. Good hipsters, bad hipsters, good goths, bad goths, etc.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
January Jones doesn't get her address published on forums and comments on blog articles for just stating an uncontroversial opinion.
Damerman
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This is my favorite rant of all time.
OT pedantic assholes who wear their pedantry on their sleeves always drove me up the wall... But i always admired pedants who were humble and laid back and knew when to pick their battles.
Damerman
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This is mad disingenuous.
Soltype
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Who did that happened to?
How so?, I haven't seen much of Munn's acting, but I've seen some and it wasn't very good.I also didn't like her too much on that one show she used to be on G4.I've seen more from Day, and it's about the same.
zeopower6
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Seems like it happened to Felicia last year around GG.
SolicitorPirate
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Everyone arguing against this thread's premise really needs to read this.
ss_lemonade
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There was this guy who went to the same college as me. A year or 2 younger I believe and not someone I really knew but he just looked like the quiet, shy type, nerdy type person to me. Guess I was wrong after having him as an facebook friend many years now after college. A lot of the posts he makes online are either about anime girls, cosplaying girls or some anime figure with a suggestive pose, and nearly 90% of the content of his posts are full of capital letter screams and curse words. Probably to get attention or something, but he seems to have a ton of other friends who share the same hobbies and are ok with what he posts.
I don't know what the deal is with that, be it does become irritating sometimes (I don't unfriend people so yeah, I just try to scroll past his posts) and I have seen a lot of other nerds into anime who talk the same way online. Is this what they call trying to be edgy?
I don't know what the deal is with that, be it does become irritating sometimes (I don't unfriend people so yeah, I just try to scroll past his posts) and I have seen a lot of other nerds into anime who talk the same way online. Is this what they call trying to be edgy?
To some, this explains it a bit, replace gamers with nerds.
Again, to some, not all.
This sounds like the gaming section of neogaf
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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For real. It's pretty much possible to live on the internet now which it wasn't 15-20 years ago. Doing so dramatically effects your perception of reality
Chezzymann
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Me and my nerdy friends still just talk about comics, TV shows, science. Never any of this hating women stuff. I guess people in general are shitty, not just nerds.
Soltype
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Wow, just read up some on what happened.There's definitely something wrong with those people, had no idea about half of the stuff that went on.
umop_3pisdn
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Persnickety people often use 'discrimination' or particularness to try to control their anxieties and postpone or elect out of action that might make them vulnerable to criticism, and then it's just a short jump to a sort of defeated aggression that sees taking a critical slant as a way 'out' of situations that make them uncomfortable. Basically I think people with nerdy interests often use them as a sort of oasis, to postpone developing more successful coping strategies, but oases dry up.
That's certainly how the new 52 reboot felt for me as a fan of the whole Bat family or of the odigital Jaime Reyes. I don't think you can say a lot of the newer movies are so much worse.
I personally never thought I'd see a shared cinematic universe, and while I definitely have my own interpretations of the characters, it's okay if the movies don't always match that. I'm sure there are many fans of the comics who love Nolan Bats for example while I disliked them overall. Doesn't mean the people who do like them aren't nerds or whatever.
Also, that classic Social Network scene explains a lot
RockTurtle
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"Asshole" isn't exclusive to any one particular group or idea
We were always shitty. We're just now coming to recognize some of our uglier traits.
Cynical garbage right here. I played a great game just last night and it released earlier that morning (Zombi)To some, this explains it a bit, replace gamers with nerds.
Again, to some, not all.
I was never a woman hater though... and I learned life from fucking mIRC. We had female ops. We met, we PARTIED!!! (lan.. :\.,,) but it wasn't as bad as it is now. I feel like those redpillers are all those guys that sorta failed taking rejection and going with it.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I think that "nerd" culture became mainstream so you're going to see some people that go further and more extreme to maintain that identity.
Riposte
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Nerds are not that shitty or maybe have always been shitty, depending on how you look at it. The only difference is that things are becoming more polarized and reactive. The idea that nerds (you may disagree with) are equivalent to 4chan fodder (or nazis or communist or ISIS etc., wherever we want to go with hyperbole) is just a manifestation of that. There are more life or death, increasingly loud slap fights on the internet than there ever were hanging out with your friends. In truth, likely nothing has changed when it comes to hanging out with your friends, unless you got some loud mouthed friends.
You Are Viewtiful
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MRAs are a cancer.
Citadelofmythoughts
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LOL, spoken like someone who didn't live through the 70s Marvel TV shows.
I've been what many would call a nerd ever since I got my Atari 2600 when I was 11, first computer was a VIC-20.
Somehow I've managed not to become a whiny pissbaby and am thrilled that what was a niche can be enjoyed by all.
It's not a culture, it's media. If you let media consumption define who you are, then I've got nothing but pity for you.
Missile Defense
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I honestly think that nerds realized that they hold up all of society and that they are sick and tired of having to appease dumb people who are only interested in exploiting their intelligence. At least that is the vibe / commentary I get from young "nerds" these days. They seem to have little patience for other people and are very secular and or elitist in their ways. However I also think its about maturity, or the lack thereof, also ego / arrogance.
Remember, nerds can't be bullied anymore, so now they are the bullies.
You Are Viewtiful
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C'mon, most people are not like this lol. I'm in uni in the sciences and hang around engineers/computer science guys mostly, and I can't think of anyone who'd fit your description of "impatient intelligent people".
Honestly, some of the guys in engineering are losers around women and end up being really petty. Their misogyny is the "I'm such a nice guy, why don't women like me?" fedora type. And that's just a minority of people. But those are the kind that get sucked into the whole MRA and GamerGate stuff the OP is talking about.
It should be repeated that most young "nerds" are still normal and forward-thinking. From my experience at least.
Nerds were different in the late 90's when I was in highschool. They were typically socially isolated and awkward because they acted this way (traits OP mentioned), or had these kinds of thoughts. Being into computers, games, etc, was something a lot of people were into and it little to nothing to do with them being popular or not. My friends and I were really popular, some of us were jocks, some not, most of us never showed up for school, but we were nothing like the aggressive "nerds" of today.
I think it probably has everything to do with social media.
I think it probably has everything to do with social media.
I'm pretty sure the blue collar workers hold up all of society so we can even have the surplus to allow for white collared engineers and scientists.
Those aren't nerds, they're just antisocial cunts like all the ones before them. Only in recent times they have access to the Internet which gives vile individuals a conduit with which to transmit their insanity to others (you). It's not a "nerd" thing at all, it's an exploiting technology thing. According to the dated definition of "nerd", basically everyone today qualifies as one. Glued to their computers (phones) and antisocial as fuck.
What you're describing aren't nerds, they're introverted mysogynists masquerading as nerds (via things like GamerGate) to give their beliefs false validity. The Internet can give any angry minority the support they need. We all have roughly the same views on social issues here on GAF because we surround ourselves with like-minded people. Mysogynists, racists and MRA's use technology to a similar effect that we do.
What you're describing aren't nerds, they're introverted mysogynists masquerading as nerds (via things like GamerGate) to give their beliefs false validity. The Internet can give any angry minority the support they need. We all have roughly the same views on social issues here on GAF because we surround ourselves with like-minded people. Mysogynists, racists and MRA's use technology to a similar effect that we do.
Damerman
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It's disingenuous on two fronts
1. That gamers are harrasing these women based on their "unmerited" success. They harras them because they are sexist pigs who wouldn't dare speak their mind if it wasn't for internet anonymity.
2. That the women are terrible actresses. No one complains about munn's roles in mewsroom and she is getting casted for bigger roles after her work on newsroom so she is clearly doing something right. As for Day, Im not sure of her abilities.
RockTurtle
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why are we associating MRAs with gamers now?
it's this sort of hyperbolic, reactionary bullshit that the OP is confused about.
you got an extreme group who happens to share an interest with another, and suddenly guilt by association because the magic of social media means that everyone's opinions are given weight regardless of merit.
so OP to end, nerds aren't assholes. PEOPLE are assholes. it's just that Nerds happen to have the skillsets and interest to better manipulate the medium you are using.
it's not that they are exclusively bad, it's just the bad nerds can do a lot more than your average joe mcasshole.
there are normal people who also happen to be nerds. there are sickos who also happen to be nerds. overall no one is one specific thing.
it's this sort of hyperbolic, reactionary bullshit that the OP is confused about.
you got an extreme group who happens to share an interest with another, and suddenly guilt by association because the magic of social media means that everyone's opinions are given weight regardless of merit.
so OP to end, nerds aren't assholes. PEOPLE are assholes. it's just that Nerds happen to have the skillsets and interest to better manipulate the medium you are using.
it's not that they are exclusively bad, it's just the bad nerds can do a lot more than your average joe mcasshole.
there are normal people who also happen to be nerds. there are sickos who also happen to be nerds. overall no one is one specific thing.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
Aren't you being a little too judgmental OP... going around and putting labels on people and whatnot.
User 100115
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Bitch when I was a kid we had NES and blew in cartridges and we fucking liked it!
(I'm kidding of course, but showing the basic reason: some people think newer gamers aren't really gamers and express that in horrid ways)
And echoing others, some people think because high school girls teased them back when they were blowing in cartridges, no girl could ever be actually interested in gaming and thus is faking it for the attention.
I think the internet has allowed a lot of people who would otherwise be lonely and anti-social find some social interaction, yet still lack the proper opportunities or skills to actually interact with other people off the internet. So it turns a lot of what would normally just be self-loathing into something a lot more outwardly nasty.
FriedConsole
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As an old nerd before it was cool, there were a lot of shitty nerds but they didn't have a platform. Shitty nerds now rule the internet.
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