DaleinCalgary
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I would hope that someone in accounting would bring this up.
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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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I would hope that someone in accounting would bring this up.
DaleinCalgary
Member
So the legs of these games did better than the new releases....
Anyone remember Yoshi's first month? Wasn't it in the 200s?
And an LTD for SMM if someone has the old numbers
EDIT:
Yoshi did 165k first month. and 97 this month. So, 262k.
Wait, this was Just Dance's second month?
Plague Doctor
Member
Don't you just wish you could know exactly what the deal was?
I hope we get a Destiny-esque indepth article of how that played itself out. Whichever gaming site cracks that story would own the news cycle for the week.
Could we have the first month sales of these ultra niche titles?
Rodea the Sky Soldier, Stella Glow and Sword Art Online: Lost Song.
Second month percentage drop of Dragon Quest Heroes would be nice too
I know I'm asking too much
Some things are better left unknown...
Bruno MB
Member
Nintendo's line up for the last quarter of the year has been a complete disaster, I don't remember something like this. The only game that is performing well is Yoshi’s Woolly World.
Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon didn't do too bad since it sold on par with Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity.
October:
[WIU] Yoshi's Woolly World - 165,000
[3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes - 83,000
[3DS] Chibi-Robo! Zip Lash - 35,000
[WIU] Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water - Nintendo eShop only
November:
[3DS] Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon - 115,000
[WIU] Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival - 36,000
[WIU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash - 18,000
December:
[WIU] Xenoblade Chronicles X
Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon didn't do too bad since it sold on par with Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity.
October:
[WIU] Yoshi's Woolly World - 165,000
[3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes - 83,000
[3DS] Chibi-Robo! Zip Lash - 35,000
[WIU] Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water - Nintendo eShop only
November:
[3DS] Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon - 115,000
[WIU] Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival - 36,000
[WIU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash - 18,000
December:
[WIU] Xenoblade Chronicles X
And Devil's Third.
serversurfer
Member
4890-4607=283
4607+251=4858
!=
serversurfer
Member
Look at CoD. It sold well, and 83% of its sales were on Gen8. TR also had 87% of its sales on Gen8, but didn't sell so well. The Gen8 performance shouldn't be a 50% drop from the Gen7 performance of a comparable game. Gen8 is where all of the software buyers are now; they're just not super interested in TR, at least on XBox. Follow?
You know damn well how its bad.
Bruno MB
Member
LTD June 2014
[PlayStation 4] Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition - 179,000
[Xbox One] Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition - 99,000
How convenient.
When the thought is 1.5 to 1.75 million for Halo is atrocious and the series is on life support are you really surprised 200k is bad?
BTW yes 200k is not good at all
I don't. All I can think of right now is it sold 1/2 on 1/4 of the install base.
I know I'm overlooking something, I think Primethius explained a while back.
Welfare
Member
Thank you.
So RotTR on the Xbox One did about the same as DE on PS4 with about 5 months of sales. That's... ??? don't know how to respond.
Well Tomb Raider is now only below other mega franchises like The Order.
In all fairness we aren't exactly comparing apples to apples here.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Ha Etta your trolling you can't fool me bro
Shouldn't new releases sell much better than HD remasters?
Primethius
Banned
Because install base doesn't directly correlate to increased sales for any given franchise. At a certain point, you have the core fanbase for a game either already on the console or not.
I believe I explained this in regards to Halo sales and how they maintained a consistent 3.3 million in the opening months for Halo 2/3/4/Reach despite releasing in different time periods of a console's lifetime and different periods of a month.
For Tomb Raider, the install base is already pretty big. Sub-200k isn't a good number because it's a decline from the 360 number. It's not as if the 360 number was so massive compared to the current one that userbase is an inhibiting factor. After all, there's other franchises that have opened to significantly higher numbers or similar numbers despite the "limitation" in userbase.
Welfare
Member
I know, but it does put things into some kind of perspective.
I expected so much more for this game. Pretty sad.
Square2015
Member
What did Mario Maker do in October?
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
Nah it's cool, 200k sales are absolutely enviable for a multimillion selling franchise. Who wouldn't want to be in the hallowed company of The Order 1886?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Did we get H5 numbers?
I'm not, it's just a coincidence.
Oh, ok.
So if there were only 5 million XBO consoles in the US, they'd still expect more than 200K ROTR?
You're saying the attach rate isn't linear but a concave down curve?
IMO not really.
How did TLoU do on PS4 vs. 3?
MCC vs. Halo 5
What UC4 vs. NDC?
When u factor everything in (smaller install base, XB fans not main fanbase, US not main fanbase, competing bigger games) it's not that surprising at all.
Nightengale
Member
Fun fact: ROTR is released on a 2 platforms, not 1.
I'm not even sure what the point of the comparison is. This whole line of posts is pretty confusing!
Really surprised it got a 360 port.
CosmicQueso
Member
Your troll would be better if the 360 SKU hadn't launched.
Nightengale
Member
MS: Don't worry about PS4/PC! 360 will make up for it!
Mikey Jr.
Member
This is fucking insane. I know SE got paid, but man, what a way to cripple your franchise. Any momentum they had from the first game has been completely wiped out. I don't think the PS4 version is going to save them. And this is coming from the US, where the XB1 is strongest. Sales of this game are probably astronomically worse every where else.
... this is only the second game I'm surprised about people viewing as bombs, wait until I do it a third time before calling out a pattern.
So about the slopes of the expected attach rates, they are decreasing as the generation progresses, then?
So only when would 175K be acceptable, maybe if it was a launch title day and date as the console?
DaleinCalgary
Member
SE did it to themselves.
I hope this example stops all 3rd party developers from holding back games from the entire audience on either side of ps4 or XBO.
Battlefront's sales seem a bit low. Though maybe I just had crazy expectations. We'll see if the movie gives it legs.
What was their strategy? Rush out a bunch of mediocre spinoffs to capitalize on the holiday season? Doesn't seem to have worked out. At least they delayed Star Fox.
What was their strategy? Rush out a bunch of mediocre spinoffs to capitalize on the holiday season? Doesn't seem to have worked out. At least they delayed Star Fox.
Ghost Slayer
Member
What a fucking disaster. SE should hope they receive enough money from uncle Phil and also pray that PC and PS fans will buy RoTR: Traitor Edition
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
It is a huge reason imo if PS3 even with its price had launched side by side with 360 we would just be talking about how the PlayStation consles can't be beaten not "what happened to MS?"
Nightengale
Member
No.
Dead Rising 3 and Ryse were launch titles. Do you want to know how much they sold by 2013?
530k and 430k.
Primethius
Banned
It depends. I think you have to look at other releases for context. Games like Fallout 4 for example have pulled in better number then predecessors on the same console that ROTR launched on.
The 200k (or ~187k of the X1 version) now on a console with a near 10 million userbase in the US isn't a good number at all. Especially when other releases are more then pulling their punch.
DangerMouse
Member
Saucycarpdog
Member
What perception? Going by the factual numbers, PC is the largest market by many miles.
And what do you mean by nothing is changing? PC has been growing year after year.
gundamkyoukai
Member
TR should have been X1 \PC .
SE mess up big time .
PC is the largest market depending on the game type .
The same can be said for mobile and consoles depending of the game type .
SE mess up big time .
PC is the largest market depending on the game type .
The same can be said for mobile and consoles depending of the game type .
Ah, so 400-500K is what's expected for a launch title, ROTR is 1/2 of that two years later. So then a good expected number for ROTR would have been like 800K-1M?
Infernostew
Member
Yeah. Those are good numbers... only if your intension was that there is some kind of loophole where you could make more money with a flop than a hit.
I really hope we still get Yo-Kai 2, I really enjoyed the first game and saw alot of potential, and I heard the second game tightens up alot of the mechanics.