TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Could you give us any vague hint on which company it is?
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Nomura Securities: NX will be unveiled in June and released October-November
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Could you give us any vague hint on which company it is?
NDA, secret, protecting sources, and all?
Uhh, depending on who it is, that might be a problem. Could you provide any hints on who it is (without breaking any NDAs)?
it's me.
Only your opinion, many others, including myself, had sustained fun for months before the Wii U release, thanks to those threads, teases, speculations, etc. This is how it's done since the 80s, baby, you should have seen the endless speculation about the "Project Reality" then "Ultra 64", with several years of fantasies before concrete info. This is better than the actual launch for many of us, deal with it.
I guess that would be ubisoft, which would mean we are not off to a great start. Also, would explain why no leaks.
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..but do they actually have any interest in creating software for it?
Ubisoft would be too strange and unexpected (IMHO), especially considering John Harker's posts about NX schedule (since he's quite near to Ubisoft).
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TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Hmmmm. I'm gonna say EA.
That wouldn't surprise me.
Don't sweat it, we wouldn't want to get you into any hot water that you wouldn't be willing to put yourself into. But let me ask you this. Is there any truth to the "shared platform with multiple form factors" theory? Of course, answer if you can without breaking any major NDAs.
Then wouldn't it likely be Ubisoft?
Pokemaniac
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After what EA pulled with Wii U, I think this makes EA less likely:
Maybe it's not coming out in 2016 then.
Have you seen the 3DS & Wii U's software output this year? Nintendo can't risk waiting until next year to release the NX device(s).
Tom Nook Sawyer
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I find this a bit of an odd perspective from a supposed insider. As an insider, your perspective is different from the rest of ours, so I don't think you necessarily represent the majority's view.
Speculation can certainly be fun, but not when we're being purposefully dicked-around with via vague and cryptic messages from people who claim to be in the know
That would be something. 2018 release date, Zelda is wii u exclusive and all of gafs predictions are dead wrong.
Yeah, I think another "Wii in 2012" situation for BOTH systems would be really, really bad for Nintendo in the short-term and long-term.
i would say ea too. i think they had a tough time with the wii u because they probably felt like they were sold one thing but given another, and decided to cut support early because they just didn't have it in them to support it.
ubisoft also makes sense. they've really given it the ol' college try with wii u. both companies had a lot of success on the wii as well. ubisoft also had success on the ds, and supported the 3ds with an exclusive launch title even.
i'm expecting this thing to be more of their sixth handheld platform than their eighth console platform. their console had more support from western studios with party and family games, while their handhelds usually have licensed stuff from western third parties. their handhelds are also far more friendly to japanese developers. it wouldn't surprise me if nintendo's trying to present this as the one platform japanese developers (who are still into making games on dedicated hardware) need, and expect that support from western third-parties will come later or not at all, and don't consider them an important factor. because when it comes to handhelds, they aren't.
Pokemaniac
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Assuming it actually is Ubisoft, I wouldn't be surprised if their kits got quietly delayed until the official unveiling. They A.) are seemingly incapable of not leaking things, and B) are likely lower priority than devs less likely to have a repeat of the Rayman Legends debacle.
Granted, the 3DS may be able to last until early 2017 in the West. But it'll be in a "Wii in 2011" situation by mid 2017 in the West & even sooner for Japan (maybe as soon as the middle of this year).
it's unlikely this studio doesn't have visibility on when they will receive dev kits. If they have no info in January, it means they will receive the dev kit minimum february, right? For the Wii U and other consoles they had some kind of notices before, to prepare their teams, have a secured room to put the dev kit there, etc.
So if a major third-party dev won't have a dev kit until, best case scenario, february 2016, how can they develop an ambitious game leveraging the supposedly capabilities of the hardware & all, in time?
Several possibilities (SPECULATION!):
- My sources are lying to me (unlikely)
- This is real info, and Nintendo plans on launching a Nintendo-titles-driven console, again (not a judgment here)
- This is real info, but the concept of the console (or is it its hardware?) allows for quick development, adaptation of existing games/engines, they could have even started developing on it using Wii U dev kits (i haven't heard about that, from the info i got, it doesn't seem likely though)
So if a major third-party dev won't have a dev kit until, best case scenario, february 2016, how can they develop an ambitious game leveraging the supposedly capabilities of the hardware & all, in time?
Several possibilities (SPECULATION!):
- My sources are lying to me (unlikely)
- This is real info, and Nintendo plans on launching a Nintendo-titles-driven console, again (not a judgment here)
- This is real info, but the concept of the console (or is it its hardware?) allows for quick development, adaptation of existing games/engines, they could have even started developing on it using Wii U dev kits (i haven't heard about that, from the info i got, it doesn't seem likely though)
Or the kits could just being coming later than usual I guess.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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So we could hypothetically receive ports of PS4/XB1 stuff for the launch from said studio? Or just in general.
Orniletter
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I think 200 for the handheld and 300 for the homeconsole are the sweet spot.
Still in the affordable-pricerange, but they have enough room to do some interesting things hardwarewise.
This wouldn't surprise me, especially if Nintendo went the shared platform route in an attempt to support the NX Platform mostly on their own.
Exactly why I think they don't really have much of a choice in launching NX by late 2016. Sure, they could release early/mid 2017, but then they missed out on the 2016 holiday season and it'd be harder for NX to pick up steam.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Unless Nintendo has some final flood of Wii U/3DS games to buoy it up for another year, I would put money on a release this year.
Pokemaniac
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Getting kits in February sounds relatively reasonable so long as that studio isn't banking on making exclusives for launch. Not ideal, but it sounds doable.
Another theory: there are no devkits but software is developed on pcs using some sort of virtual machine environment like Takeda described in the quote from earlier in this thread.
as far as using wii u devkits, this is something that i think goes back to an iwata statement from last year about how nx will absorb the wii u's architecture. i am by no means a tech-head though, and don't really know what that means for development.
Do western parties even do this anymore or have incentive to do it? Its going to be ports at best and all of that is done on PC until the final stages, no?
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That could be the case, but one would think that IdeaMan's source would have brought that up if it was.
game history is full of "insider" or "semi-insider" or "guys who happen to have some info", who tease about it, hell, we even had game magazines with "cliffhangers" as a last page, announcing big secrets revealed for the next month. Actually we had more people sitting on info they intent to deliver, than "efficient, commando" insiders who write 3 words then disappear.
i'm not representing anyone view, i'm not a model or an anti-model, i'm not claiming anything, i just have some info, and i want to share it + have fun, and it seems at least half the population in NeoGaf likes it, so why not?
Those who aren't happy with it, just ignore me, that's fine Also, i'm very adamant on what i said, my "track-record", etc, i have nothing to sugar coat, prove, etc, no hidden agenda behind, etc. You can check at least 2 or 3 lists of hyperlinks to my messages and info & teases, in the Wii U speculation threads and all.
Pokemaniac
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A Wii U would be a pretty poor stand-in for any hardware significantly stronger than it. Though, if the OS API is similar enough, there could be some degree of testing they could do with it.
All in all, they'd probably be way better off with a literal VM.
We actually heard about this iirc. Not sure the source was legit, but we speculated that this could be part of what Iwata meant when he said that the new console will "absorb the Wii U architecture" (as in new upgraded versions of the tools/sdk/api etc they used for the Wii U, and another part being the gamepad streaming tech which would allow the two consoles to communicate).
This would also mean that they can port some games from NX to Wii U and viceversa quite easily.
I think the source you're referring to was proven to be fake.
thegodsend
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Welcome back Ideaman, much appreciated that you share some of your information.
Did you hear any tidbit about a release date, even with no devkits delivered yet? And anything on the handheld/home console front?
Did you hear any tidbit about a release date, even with no devkits delivered yet? And anything on the handheld/home console front?
Actually, I can see the scenario where EA, despite what happened this gen, would still try to develop something for NX launch and a few months in at least, to see if it's a good environment for their games.
Thanks! That doesn't sound good for the third party NX launch line-up. Especially when we're taking about one that wants to develop for it.
It explains also the lack of leaks.
Maybe they are still hold back by the infrastructure and the delay of Nintendo account until March?
honestly, i think my sources would have said "we don't have dev kit but we have started developing on it". For Wii U, they got some kind of spec breakdown, like the targeted capabilities, they were aware of that. Here, it's not the case. So i'm worried.
Because it means if the NX concept is so cool, Nintendo couldn't have the luxury to avoid third-party who have shown creativity as well.
Many more speculations to have, like the concept is so forward-thinking and they are wary of leaks, that they intent on going solo most of the road before a full-blown/mind-blowing reveal like the surprising Shoshinkai for Nintendo 64 (first time we saw N64 controller, isn't it? and Mario 64).
Pokemaniac
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Maybe, though with Wii U, there's some pretty significant evidence that they had pulled out before the thing even launched.
Orniletter
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I don't want you to get in trouble, but let me ask about this ultra top secret thing that most definitely would get you in trouble if you'd reveal it. Come on.
If you're talking about the italian guy, i'm not thinking about him. It was probably Tamaki, or maybe not a source but some speculation here on gaf based on Iwata's statement. I don't remember very well, but i think there is a possibility that this will actually happen. Would be way easier to port games like Zelda, Splatoon, Super Mario Maker or even Smash, and maybe they could port a few NX games on the Wii U to support the machine in some form in 2017.
I'm assuming that your sources are from the western third party side of things. In that case, maybe this could imply that the shared platform thing will pan out, since such a move would indicate that Nintendo would be capable of supporting the NX Platform's launch mostly on their own.
My point was that if he can reveal it, go ahead. If not, don't.
Again, is this just a single studio of a major developer or all the studios of a developer? Just a clarification.
the answer is in the message. big, western, studio, not a sub-studio or a subset of a sub-studio, etc. Other source is the same kind.
So it's not the publisher as a whole, but rather a bigger western studio.
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