HeroInGreen
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This is amazing, at this point I won't be surprised if they somehow managed to introduce a game breaking bug
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The Tales of Symphonia PC-Port is a mess!
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Novum_Veritas
Member
I'm pretty sure they have.
None. It's not a forum post.
It does use some choice words though that I really wouldn't resort to for anything less than what we see here.
Is "Abysmal" among them?`
Edit: I have a title for you. "Namco tells us a Tale of the Abysmal"
Not even something like this?
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First I'd like to
utter some
choice words to
keep things civil
before we begin
analyzing the
mediocre port
created by whoever was
on the night shift at the porting companyget the superior version now for $5
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en...cles/cid=UP0700-NPUB50101_00-B000000000000263
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en...cles/cid=UP0700-NPUB50101_00-B000000000000263
Subtle.
Yep.
Glad I didn't buy Zestria or this individually. I knew something was up when they said it would be 30FPS. The localization spreadsheet and txt files are hilarious. The fact that there are new typos in a port tells a lot.
That DRM creating a new exe is outright hilarious. Somehow I doubt even Durante can fix this one.
They really need to take a page from Sega with Valkyria Chronicles.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
get a better PC lololol
Chairmanchuck
Member
Just a question. Do you have any contact to Bandai-Namco reps? While all of their titles are usually good ports, the Koei-Tecmo titles are the worst. I just wonder if Bandai-Namco even knows about some of their broken ports.
While we saw like thousands of articles about the Arkham shitty port, no one seems to care about bad ports of japanese games.
Having a localization spreadsheet and text file open and available is actually quite a godsend for people who want to modify text files for their language. Sure it might be a mistake to show it, but it's good for consumers to have it available just in case.
(Doesn't excuse their shoddy text work or anything)
I would love it if Valkyria Chronicles had an openly editable excel file with text... it would've saved some people a lot of grief...
(Doesn't excuse their shoddy text work or anything)
I would love it if Valkyria Chronicles had an openly editable excel file with text... it would've saved some people a lot of grief...
Viva la revolucion!
Yeah, I don't really see saving string data in a csv file as a negative. It's standard practice, and not encrypting/encoding/packing/whatever it only makes stuff easier for modders and doesn't hurt anything.
It's the one "issue" with the port people really shouldn't latch onto, out of a plethora of options.
I'd strongly disagree on this, though.
Taking context into account, Symphonia was a game with a pretty large, full world. It also experimented, and the dev team at the time seemed invested in experimentation at the time.
The dungeon design was great, and hate them or love them, the puzzles were really inventive.
The story seems awkward to watch now, but I'd take Symphonia's characters over Zestiria's any day. I've said many times before that Zestiria's characters feel very unattached to the world they live in other than the generic "save the world!" motivation. Aside from that, they don't seem to care that much for individual people.
Odd, given that Xillia did a great job of showing Milla
move from viewing humanity as a collective whole she had to watch over and protect to appreciating human beings individually
Zestiria, in contrast, has big, empty fields that feel like innovation for the sake of innovation. Same goes for the "seamless" battles, which actually add nothing significant to the Tales battle system (which is more about maneuvering around enemies and having room to pull off moves).
Symphonia at least had innovations that went on to be improved in later games. So many of Zestiria's "innovations" seem like dead ends. Like that skill system, ugh... And I'd certainly hope nothing like armatus ever appears in another game in the series.
And I say this as someone who finds Abyss to be superior to Symphonia in almost every way. The game aged terribly, but it still innovated significantly and felt like it had way more effort put into it than Zestiria did.
Agreed about the apologists. I'm not talking about anyone here as I haven't really run into this on GAF. But elsewhere I've seen people bending over backwards to come up with the strangest excuses for some of the recent games' issues.
Someone told me that Zestiria making the player pay a fixed percent of their gald for quick travel made sense because that's how governments tax people...
I really do wonder what it would take to get Namco to at least show concern that their PC fans are forming opinions of their future titles based on this disaster of a port.
Yeah, it's a nice thing, but they fucked up the formatting so goodbye to special characters. Otherwise i'd love to translate this to portuguese in my spare time.
Starwolf_UK
Member
That kind of thing happens all the timeHere are what the trading cards and badges look like, for the curious.
Besides the fact that they look kinda bad, there is also this.
They really didn't give a damn, did they?
Hello, Clumsy Assassin.
That's not the Gamecube version.
I was just about to post this, Picked it up for PS3 sadly, who knows if they will ever patch the PC version so may as well.
A few other Bandai Namco games on sale also.
KainXVIII
Member
Many get PC version for free and PS3 is not really superior (even for $5).
I don't have any problem with (except 720p, off course)
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
That's garbage, geez. How do you mess this up so badly? Especially given how good the PS3 port was.
YianGaruga
Banned
Yes it is. It's playable
To be fair, if you are fine with english you can play the PC version and have pretty much the same experience as with the PS3 version.
KainXVIII
Member
As PC version. GAF just exaggerates (as always)
Superior version = also locked at 30 fps?
The only correct way to play Symphonia is on GameCube.
On pc with dolphin
What a shame.
What am I looking at here?Here are what the trading cards and badges look like, for the curious.
Besides the fact that they look kinda bad, there is also this.
They really didn't give a damn, did they?
Mithos is someone else, that guy is called Zelos.
This is Mithos
This is Zelos
They couldn't even get the goddamn name of the characters right
The character called Mithos is actually called Zelos in the game, Mithos is another character.
Oh wow. I look forward to reading this.
Nah, this is the superior version:
60 FPS (50 for PAL versions, still better than 30 tho), any resolution you want (1440p in my case), proper widescreen with a simple fix, no extra typos, working non-english languages etc.
Yeah I don't see the issue with that point at all, I'd say it would be good if easily modifiable localization files were available in most games. Can't afford a localisation to language X in your niche game? why not leave it open and easy for fans to do it for you.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
Less burning bridges and more pointing a flame thrower at Bandai Namco.
I really really wish that didn't need to happen. I avoided pre-ordering Zestiria because I wanted to see how this port turned out and eek.
Novum_Veritas
Member
Exaggeration much?
From what I've played of the PC version it feels no better or worse than the PS3 one. GCN is obviously the definitive version still.
MrSaturn99
Member
Here are what the trading cards and badges look like, for the curious.
Besides the fact that they look kinda bad, there is also this.
They really didn't give a damn, did they?
LOOOOOOL OMG
Took the words right out of my mouth.
This is Mithos
This is Zelos
They couldn't even get the goddamn name of the characters right
Oh, hahaha. Man, they didn't give a fuck.
Wow, something positive will come out of this mess after all!
Someday companies will realize treating the PC community right with a non-shit port will actually do more for you in the long run than being lazy in the short run.
Yes, in pretty much all the horrible ports that PC get, it's only horrible because it's the exact same experience than on the consoles. Of course that are probably a very few exceptions spread a long the years, like the first version of Resident Evil 4, but they are very few and far in between. After the patches even Arkhan Knight is only bad because you have to lock it at 30 FPS to have a constant experiecen (like on the consoles).
Red Blaster
Member
gamecube is a beast, pc just can't compete
Copper
Member
there is even a HD texture pack
Kotaku article incoming.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
GCN was the original, no port. But maybe you meant to say "version".