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Media Create Sales: Week 4, 2016 (Jan 25 - Jan 31)

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LiveFromKyoto

Member
Dead Prince said:
i doubt builder will have minecraft like legs. but i hope it does. still waiting for the west announcement (y)
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It's probably wishful thinking, but I hope this is the Vita's Monster Hunter. I'd love to see a 4th quarter (sports analogy, not business) comeback from the system.

Pennywise83 said:
DD sold that "much" in Western countries because of price cuts; the game debuted dat 92k in first month NPD (and it shipped 1m in the first month worldwide - guess how the remaining units were sold). 470k units in Japan were sold at full price, instead. The game didn't succeed in the West as it did in Japan also considering the different market sizes. It's not that hard.
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You're discounting the fact that in the interim, those cheap copies got into a lot of people's hands who spread positive word of mouth, coupled with a well-received appearance on PS+. The PC release was a test run to see if that positive word of mouth could amount to a sales success and garner the IP a second chance, and by all accounts it has. The title has enough in common with rpg series that have succeeded in the West recently that it's perfectly reasonable to think it could find a solid audience there, if it hasn't already.
 
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Fisico

Member
Pennywise83 said:
Well, the last 3DS game sold 231k units. So the 3DS version might still have a chance of pulling good numbers.
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DS Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Nintendo 2008-01-17 383,655
DS Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games Nintendo 2009-11-19 254,341
3DS Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games Nintendo 2012-03-01 231,021
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200k would probably be an outstanding result seing previous episode sales and the lack of portable entry in 2014.

The series could bounce back in 2020 though I guess.
 
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Crawl

Member
Can someone tell me how PS4 is tracking in comparison to PS3 in japaan at this point in its life cycle? Is ps4 doing better, the same or worse? thanks.
 
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horuhe

Member
Top Five Publishers January, 2016.

Square Enix - 24.64%
Nintendo - 14.65%
Sega - 11.96%
Capcom - 10.47%
Atlus - 6.66%

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Top 3 Games per Platform January, 2016.

Nintendo 3DS
01./01. [3DS] Monster Hunter X # <ACT> (Capcom) {2015.11.28} (¥5.800) - 139.664 / 2.661.523 (-x%)
02./02. [3DS] Monster Strike <RPG> (Mixi) {2015.12.17} (¥4.500) - 80.318 / 779.754 (-x%)
03./00. [3DS] Hyrule Warriors Legends # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2016.01.21} (¥5.800) - 69.653 / NEW

PlayStation 4
01./00. [PS4] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo <ADV> (Square Enix) {2016.01.28} (¥7.800) - 141.369 / NEW
02./00. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami <ADV> (Sega) {2016.01.21} (¥6.490) - 123.516 / NEW
03./00. [PS4] Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir <ACT> (Atlus) {2016.01.14} (¥7.980) - 49.555 / NEW

PlayStation Vita
01./00. [PSV] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo # <ADV> (Square Enix) {2016.01.28} (¥5.980) - 178.016 / NEW
02./0x. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.03.19} (¥2.400) - 57.507 / 642.224 (-x%)
03./00. [PSV] Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir <ACT> (Atlus) {2016.01.14} (¥7.980) - 52.774 / NEW

Wii U
01./03. [WiiU] Splatoon # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} (¥5.700) - 74.420 / 1.228.409 (-x%)
02./0x. [WiiU] Super Mario Maker # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.09.10} (¥5.700) - 57.325 / 784.211 (-x%)
03./00. [WiiU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash <SPT> (Nintendo) {2016.01.28} (¥4.700) - 55.331 / NEW

PlayStation 3
01./00. [PS3] Yakuza: Kiwami <ADV> (Sega) {2016.01.21} (¥6.490) - 78.019 / NEW
02./00. [PS3] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo <ADV> (Square Enix) {2016.01.28} (¥6.800) - 53.154 / NEW
03./00. [PS3] TV Anime Idolm@ster: Cinderella Girls G4U! Pack Vol.8 <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.01.28} (¥9.980) - 15.720 / NEW

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*Data is collected from Media Create numbers. Total of Software, according to those numbers is 1.684.736.
 
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Vena

Member
LiveFromKyoto said:
It's probably wishful thinking, but I hope this is the Vita's Monster Hunter. I'd love to see a 4th quarter (sports analogy, not business) comeback from the system.
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I think that requires actual investment from the parent company, lol. (And multiplayer. Monster Hunter didn't hunt its monsters to such successes in a single-player experience. This is potentially a case of SE squandering a good thing had they put a little bit more effort into it given the initial positive response but what I consider to be damning lack of long-term future-proofing features... the fact that they effectively announced DQB2 two days ago is equally damning.)

Crawl said:
Can someone tell me how PS4 is tracking in comparison to PS3 in japaan at this point in its life cycle? Is ps4 doing better, the same or worse? thanks.
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Better but cheaper.
 
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thestopsign

Member
PS Vita had a comparatively good week due to a big release. Lets not get ahead of ourselves and call it "domination". Especially when it isn't even the leading system YTD.
 
R

Raylan

Banned
DR2K said:
X1 nearly doubled in sales.
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Pennywise83

Banned
Fisico said:
200k would probably be an outstanding result seing previous episode sales and the lack of portable entry in 2014.

The series could bounce back in 2020 though I guess.
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200k would be a good result - we'll see when it's releasing but it might be a good fill-up game for this year 3DS line-up.
 
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ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Dash Kappei said:
Now, bearing in mind TP HD will be a sub 60k affaire, what's the next big WiiU title and when will it drop?
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Pokken Tournament the very week after TP HD (3/18).

Mario007 said:
I mean even FF Theatrhythm could be said to be a failure when you think of it as a rhythm game spinoff of one of the most popular franchises where fans are mad about the music, as per album sales. The game was on a the most popular platform at the time and catered to the demographics by its art style. Looking at the results which didnt even crack 200k and they had to release a phone version of the game,
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No no no.... Theathrhythm was released on mobile AND 3DS originally with two different pricing schemes. Square Enix actually said the 3DS version did much better, so that's why it got the "sequel" (Curtain Call) and mobile just got more DLC instead.




Mario Tennis did very well for what it is... almost did better than the US LTD already lol. Good sales for DQ Builders on Vita & PS4. Also great Vita sales. Wii U hardware continues to fall though =/.
 
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Shenmue

Banned
Good debut for Builders. The real test now will be if it has even a fraction of the legs Minecraft does. I hope they eventually have some patch that allows for multiplayer play. I don't personally care about it, but for the game to have MC type legs I think they'll need it.
 
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Maniel

Banned
Shenmue said:
Good debut for Builders. The real test now will be if it has even a fraction of the legs Minecraft does. I hope they eventually have some patch that allows for multiplayer play. I don't personally care about it, but for the game to have MC type legs I think they'll need it.
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Yeah I hope they patch it in too, but there is more money to be made by only adding it in the sequel.
 
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Mory Dunz

Member
ZSaberLink said:
Pokken Tournament the very week after TP HD (3/18).



No no no.... Theathrhythm was released on mobile AND 3DS originally with two different pricing schemes. Square Enix actually said the 3DS version did much better, so that's why it got the "sequel" (Curtain Call) and mobile just got more DLC instead.




Mario Tennis did very well for what it is... almost did better than the US LTD already lol. Good sales for DQ Builders on Vita & PS4. Also great Vita sales. Wii U hardware continues to fall though =/.
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Seems like Pokken is the most compeling title saleswise in the near future. Zelda U too, but it's too far off.

Paper Mario could be as well when it gets announced.
 
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DriftingSpirit

Member
Shenmue said:
Good debut for Builders. The real test now will be if it has even a fraction of the legs Minecraft does. I hope they eventually have some patch that allows for multiplayer play. I don't personally care about it, but for the game to have MC type legs I think they'll need it.
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They've pretty much confirmed it will not be getting MP. They will consider it for DQB2 though.
 
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test_account

XP-39C²
Shenmue said:
Good debut for Builders. The real test now will be if it has even a fraction of the legs Minecraft does. I hope they eventually have some patch that allows for multiplayer play. I don't personally care about it, but for the game to have MC type legs I think they'll need it.
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Patch for multiplayer wont happen. The producer (or something in that vein) said a few days ago in an interview that would be impossible to patch in multiplayer. They said that if there were demand for it, they would concider it if they made another game.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Fisico said:
I honestly don't know what are the reasons behind the total lack of hype around the title, we talked about it earlier but it definitely should have been a 500k+ potential seller.

It still looks better than Arslan, has a Vita SKU and the IP is way more popular, so I can't see it opening lower than Hyrule though.

The lack of Comgnet preorder numbers is probably due to the multiple SKU (6?).
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It's not just comgnet, I don't think there are high preorders at any retailer. Retailers won't risk to burn with big shipment after so many bombs this December but if word of mouth is good it will have some legs. Gundam, Animal Crossing, Pokemon have many 10ks of unsold copies still sitting at shelves.

But the reality is we went from a potential 500k+ title when it was announced to a 100k+.
 
Acquiescence

Acquiescence

Member
Palette Swap said:
Actually, DS3 is March in Japan.

Games that could make a dent on PS4 for the foreseeable future:

February :
Naruto UNS 4
Valkyria Chronicles
Street Fighter V
Attack on Titan

March :
Gundam Breaker 3
Dark Souls 3
Star Ocean 5

April :
Uncharted 4

May :
Dragon Quest Heroes 2

Edit: and I do mean "make a dent", I don't know how many of these will open at 100k+. I guess DS3 and DQH2 will, no idea about the rest.
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You're forgetting the biggest release on the horizon - Dead or Alive Xtreme 3. LTD numbers for the system will probably be close to 3 million the week that game comes out.
 
Cornbread78

Cornbread78

Member
Acquiescence said:
You're forgetting the biggest release on the horizon - Dead or Alive Xtreme 3. LTD numbers for the system will probably be close to 3 million the week that game comes out.
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DoA X3 will serve hard hitting action on the go that will spike sales and set records on Vita...
 
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Arzehn

Member
Fisico said:
I honestly don't know what are the reasons behind the total lack of hype around the title, we talked about it earlier but it definitely should have been a 500k+ potential seller.

It still looks better than Arslan, has a Vita SKU and the IP is way more popular, so I can't see it opening lower than Hyrule though.

The lack of Comgnet preorder numbers is probably due to the multiple SKU (6?).
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I thought it would be big as well (not 500k big though).
I think what went wrong here is the game just looks boring/shallow. All the game-play that they've shown looks the exact same. Do dashes left and right till you hit the neck of a monster that kills it in 1 shot. The way it seems to play makes me think it's not a very good IP for games, lol.

They should have focused more of their trailers on the story/cutscenes with a hints of gameplay. That way they could trick people into buying it. :p They did it in the most recent trailer, but now it's too late.

Edit: Looks like they just released some TV spots today. Let's see how it does.
 
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Vena

Member
Arzehn said:
I thought it would be big as well (not 500k big though).
I think what went wrong here is the game just looks boring/shallow. All the game-play that they've shown looks the exact same. Do dashes left and right till you hit the neck of a monster that kills it in 1 shot. The way it seems to play makes me think it's not a very good IP for games, lol.

They should have focused more of their trailers on the story/cutscenes with a hints of gameplay. That way they could trick people into buying it. :p They did it in the most recent trailer, but now it's too late.
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A few things went wrong with AoT this time around:

Strike 1: Game 1 was on a different platform/system family, and that game wasn't very good.
(a.) Some people are simply not going to care to change platforms even if they are fans of the series or of the first game. Random platform switching always has this risk.
(b.) The first game wasn't exactly good... that means that there's now an association with the brand as a game with a less than stellar product. People may have shied form the product.

Strike 2: No airing anime, only slow boil manga (albeit a popular one). The 3DS release was concurrent, somewhat, with the airing schedule.

Strike 3: None of the original promotional material looked all that spectacular. The novelty of AoT has worn off (tying back to S1).
 
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Busaiku

Member
Surprising that PS3 version of Dragon Quest Builders did worse than Yakuza Kiwami.
Considering Yakuza was already playable on PS3 (of course, not a full remake), and the more casual/younger appeal for this.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Busaiku said:
Surprising that PS3 version of Dragon Quest Builders did worse than Yakuza Kiwami.
Considering Yakuza was already playable on PS3 (of course, not a full remake), and the more casual/younger appeal for this.
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With a Vita version available it was inevitable.
 
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Moor-Angol

Banned
thestopsign said:
PS Vita had a comparatively good week due to a big release. Lets not get ahead of ourselves and call it "domination". Especially when it isn't even the leading system YTD.
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seems like it's not just this week that it's doing fine

PSV 2015 YTD : 129.558
PSV 2016 YTD : 189.872 (+60k)

3DS 2015 YTD : 389.812
3DS 2016 YTD : 260.203 (-129k)

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Moor-Angol

Banned
Splatoon out of top10

Famitsu Sales: Week 40, 2015 (Sep 28 - Oct 04)
12./06. [WIU] Splatoon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} (¥6.156) - 13.125 / 722.836 <80-100%> (-31%)

Famitsu Sales: Week 41, 2015 (Oct 05 - Oct 11)
12./12. [WIU] Splatoon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} (¥6.156) - 10.869 / 733.705 <80-100%> (-17%)


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TreasureHunterG

Banned
Nintendo needs to give a break for Mario's spinoffs, outside of Mario Kart. People are getting tired of it already and is suffering a process of diminishing returns.
 
Bolivar687

Bolivar687

Banned
Solid debut for DQB, did it end up having stock issues as those early reports suggested?

Very interesting that PS4 is so close, I guess that means DQXI PS4 has a chance to not completely bomb?
 
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Mory Dunz

Member
TreasureHunterG said:
Nintendo needs to give a break for Mario's spinoffs, outside of Mario Kart. People are getting tired of it already and is suffering a process of diminishing returns.
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um, you may be right....but it's really weird timing to make that statement.

In a thread where Mario Tennis overperformed what people were expecting JP (and maybe more than what it deserved) and a day after SW update where Mario Party 10 overperfomed WW and Mario Maker did well, in line with its expectations.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Now that I took a look at Gundam weekly sales again Dengeki is in line with Media Create at opening and following weekly sales. 90k opening and 130k LTD. Going by Dengeki and 45% first week sellthrough after the amazing price collapse there are still 70k unsold copies.

It deservely takes the crown for the bomb of December from amiibo Festival and Pokemon Rumble World.
 
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ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Chris1964 said:
Now that I took a look at Gundam weekly sales again Dengeki is in line with Media Create at opening and following weekly sales. 90k opening and 130k LTD. Going by Dengeki and 45% first week sellthrough after the amazing price collapse there are still 70k unsold copies.

It deservely takes the crown for the bomb of December from amiibo Festival and Pokemon Rumble World.
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Btw is Amiibo Festival in the Famitsu charts because it's in the bargain bin now or something? Seems weird that it's selling more than now than it did in the holidays.
 
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Vena

Member
Bolivar687 said:
I honestly thought that no one in Japan would buy it when there's a portable version on 3DS. These sales are starting to change my mind a bit.
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Probably would have been true if the game wasn't seeming like an early 2017 release. But that late is going to be running into decline of 3DS audience activity and NX ramp-up/transitions.

DQB and DQH are a few hundred thousand for a series that sells multiple millions, and the remakes on the 3DS have outsold either title by multiple hundreds of thousands.
 
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hiska-kun

Member
Moor-Angol said:
shipped 140k ?

anyway, despite the terrible word of mouth and the heavily price drop it's still charting, and probably last week performance is related to the last patch released
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Minimum 160k, but probably more like 170k where shipped.
Sell-through was closer to 40% than 60%.
 
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DriftingSpirit

Member
Bolivar687 said:
I honestly thought that no one in Japan would buy it when there's a portable version on 3DS. These sales are starting to change my mind a bit.
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As Vena pointed out, the 3DS would be declining/have declined by time it comes out and I don't think the 3DS would have damaged the PS4 sales to the extent some seem to think.

Yeah, obviously 3DS would move more but that doesn't mean the PS4 doesn't put up respectable numbers.
 
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Shizuka

Member
Moor-Angol said:
Splatoon out of top10

Famitsu Sales: Week 40, 2015 (Sep 28 - Oct 04)
12./06. [WIU] Splatoon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} (¥6.156) - 13.125 / 722.836 <80-100%> (-31%)

Famitsu Sales: Week 41, 2015 (Oct 05 - Oct 11)
12./12. [WIU] Splatoon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} (¥6.156) - 10.869 / 733.705 <80-100%> (-17%)


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