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Media Create Sales: Week 6, 2016 (Feb 08 - Feb 14)

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Moor-Angol

Banned
COMG weekly chart 2016/2/15 〜 2016/2/21

01. [PSV] Kan Coll Kai (combined) - 368pt
02. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at Rio 2016 - 116pt
03. [PS4] Street Fighter X (combined)- 90pt
04. [PSV] Attack on Titan - 77pt
05. [PS4] Attack on Titan - 61pt
06. [PSV] Ikenie to Yuki no Setsuna - 56pt
07. [3DS] Shin Megami Tensei IV FINAL - 50pt
08. [PS4] Ikenie to Yuki no Setsuna - 56pt - 42pt
09. [PS3] Attack on Titan - 42pt
10. [PSV] Dragon Quest Builders - 24pt
11. [PS4] Dragon Quest Builders - 17pt
12. [3DS] monster Strike - 16pt
13. [3DS] Monster Hunter Cross - 15pt
14. [WiiU] Mario Tennis Smash Ultra - 14pt
15. [WiiU] Splatoon - 14pt
16. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition - 14pt
17. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto 5 (Bargain Edition) - 13pt
18. [PS4] Main Craft PlayStation4 Edition - 12pt


I might be wrong but I think Kan Colle barely sold the preordered units...
 
H

hiska-kun

Member
Tsutaya's Ranking Week 7 2016

01./00. [PSV] Kan Colle Kai <SLG> (Kadokawa Games)
02./00. [PSV] Attack on Titan <ACT> (Koei Tecmo)
03./00. [PS4] Attack on Titan <ACT> (Koei Tecmo)
04./00. [PS3] Attack on Titan <ACT> (Koei Tecmo)
05./00. [PS4] Street Fighter V <FTG> (Capcom)
06./00. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo)
07./00. [PSV] Project Setsuna <RPG> (Square Enix)
08./00. [PS4] Project Setsuna <RPG> (Square Enix)
09./00. [PSV] Kan Colle Kai (Limited Edition) <SLG> (Kadokawa Games)
10./01. [3DS] Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final <RPG> (Atlus)
11./02. [PSV] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo <ADV> (Square Enix)
12./00. [PS4] Street Fighter V (Hot! Package) <FTG> (Capcom) (¥8.990)
13./05. [PS4] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo <ADV> (Square Enix)
14./06. [PS3] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo <ADV> (Square Enix)
15./07. [WIU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash <SPT> (Nintendo)
16./04. [PS4] Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games)
17./08. [3DS] Monster Hunter X <ACT> (Capcom)
18./12. [WIU] Splatoon <ACT> (Nintendo)
19./13. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment)
20./11. [3DS] Monster Strike <RPG> (Mixi)
 
H

horuhe

Member
Rakuten Books Ranking Week 7, 2016 (Feb 15 - Feb 21)

01./00. [PSV] Kan Colle Kai <SLG> (Kadokawa Games)
02./00. [PS4] Attack on Titan <ACT> (Koei Tecmo)
03./00. [PSV] Attack on Titan <ACT> (Koei Tecmo)
04./00. [PS4] Street Fighter V <FTG> (Capcom)
05./00. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo)
06./00. [PS4] Project Setsuna <RPG> (Square Enix)
07./01. [3DS] Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final <RPG> (Atlus)
08./00. [PSV] Project Setsuna <RPG> (Square Enix)
09./00. [PS3] Attack on Titan <ACT> (Koei Tecmo)
10./02. [PSV] Dragon Quest Builders <ADV> (Square Enix)
11./09. [WiiU] Splatoon <ACT> (Nintendo)
12./05. [WiiU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash <SPT> (Nintendo)
13./06. [PS3] Dragon Quest Builders <ADV> (Square Enix)
14./17. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment)
15./04. [PS4] Dragon Quest Builders <ADV> (Square Enix)
16./10. [3DS] Monster Strike <RPG> (Mixi)
17./08. [3DS] Monster Hunter X <ACT> (Capcom)
18./12. [WiiU] Super Mario Maker <ACT> (Nintendo)
19./03. [PS4] Valkyria Chronicles Remastered <SLG> (Sega)
20./15. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch Busters: White Dog Squad <ACT> (Level 5)

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Rakuten Books Pre-Orders Ranking Week 7, 2016 (Feb 15 - Feb 21)

01./07. [PS4] Dark Souls III <RPG> (From Software)
02./17. [PS4] Tom Clancy's The Division <ACT> (Ubisoft)
03./38. [PSV] Atelier Shallie Plus: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea <RPG> (Koei Tecmo)
04./09. [3DS] Yo-Kai Romance of the Three Kingdoms <ACT> (Level 5)
05./08. [PS4] Gundam Breaker 3 <ACT> (Bandai Namco)
06./21. [PS3] Kamen Rider: Battride War Genesis <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games)
07./16. [3DS] Haikyuu!! Cross Team Match! <SPT> (Bandai Namco Games)
08./11. [PS4] Kamen Rider: Battride War Genesis <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games)
09./13. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 <RPG> (Square Enix)
10./12. [PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X <ACT> (Sega)
 
H

horuhe

Member
Sofmap informed about the limited version of KanColle being re-stocked. They also confirmed the Super Mario Maker Set re-stock. So, it wasn't only Rakuten.

Takarajima Stores pushed their clients to pre-order Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3. It seems it is reaching the initial stock for pre-orders.
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Street Fighter V was very popular at Bic Camera, and this controllers for PS4 were selling quite well.
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And finally, the Yo-Kai Pad S is out on March 19th, so at Bic Camera they are accepting reservations.
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Fisico

Member
Hum I notice than in almost every chart (comg, tsutaya, rakuten) one or both SKU of Setsuna are above SMT 4 Final.

Now with the usual JRPG 2nd week drop (80-85%) we know than SMT 4 F should be around ~15k, so both SKU combined Setsuna might be >30k which is, well still very low, higher than expected for a title supposedly not being able to reach 50k LTD.

That was my very useful insight on a <100k LTD title
 
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Pennywise83

Banned
A <50k LTD across two platforms would be dreadful, come on. At this point, Setsuna will still be <100k, but perhaps in the range 65-70k units, so no need to lower expectations even further to make those sales look "better". For reference, among <50K LTD Square Enix jRPGs, we have masterpieces such as Cross Treasure on DS, Chaos Ring III: Prequel Trilogy on PSV, Gyrozetter on 3DS, and Front Mission Online on PS2.

Joker 3 is not doing greatly on Comgnet, for what it worths, but I'm still confident about the game, since it has a younger audience than other DQ games, and also has the Golden Week to sustain sales (IIRC Professional was helped by the GW).
 
M

Moor-Angol

Banned
Sorry for disturbing you on talking about the most important jrpg ever released in the last 3 years, Setsuna, but I proudly announce that PSP chart has been completed, it is the most accurate chart we actually have :

- 1,485 titles
- 204 games sold more than 100k, only GB and DS did better on handhelds
- 3rd party top seller game (MHP3rd)
- the only system with a budget release over a million (MHP2G)


don't worry, DS chart will come for all the people who can't stand sony products and think they all underperform, just give me some time cause it will be.... huge :D
 
B

BriBri

Member
Moor-Angol said:
Sorry for disturbing you on talking about the most important jrpg ever released in the last 3 years, Setsuna, but I proudly announce that PSP chart has been completed, it is the most accurate chart we actually have :

- 1,485 titles
- 204 games sold more than 100k, only GB and DS did better on handhelds
- 3rd party top seller game (MHP3rd)
- the only system with a budget release over a million (MHP2G)


don't worry, DS chart will come for all the people who can't stand sony products and think they all underperform, just give me some time cause it will be.... huge :D
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I guess that's before they lost Monster Hunter then? :D
 
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Pennywise83

Banned
Moor-Angol said:
Sorry for disturbing you on talking about the most important jrpg ever released in the last 3 years, Setsuna, but I proudly announce that PSP chart has been completed, it is the most accurate chart we actually have :

- 1,485 titles
- 204 games sold more than 100k, only GB and DS did better on handhelds
- 3rd party top seller game (MHP3rd)
- the only system with a budget release over a million (MHP2G)


don't worry, DS chart will come for all the people who can't stand sony products and think they all underperform, just give me some time cause it will be.... huge :D
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Well, after all, only GB and DS sold better than PSP.
 
D

Darius

Banned
At this point if a game on any PS system doesn´t do shipment numbers into the negative you can´t clearly state its bad performance without summoning silly defensive and passive aggressive reactions and even then there´ll likely be at least someone acting like an offended victim regardless. Kind of funny putting this in contrast to the former arbitrary 300k units barrier for cheap NDS games.
 
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Fisico

Member
Pennywise83 said:
A <50k LTD across two platforms would be dreadful, come on. At this point, Setsuna will still be <100k, but perhaps in the range 65-70k units, so no need to lower expectations even further to make those sales look "better". For reference, among <50K LTD Square Enix jRPGs, we have masterpieces such as Cross Treasure on DS, Chaos Ring III: Prequel Trilogy on PSV, Gyrozetter on 3DS, and Front Mission Online on PS2.
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Yes, and that was something we might have expected not so long ago and in the end it might be able to surpass the highest otome sellers !

But that's still very low
 
F

Fisico

Member
SMT 4 Final will not be able to match the highest otome sellers then bomba !
Atlus USA announce the localization already please
 
M

Moor-Angol

Banned
Kresnik258 said:
Pre-orders are separate from weekly sales.
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what do you mean ? weekly points are not cumulative from preorders + sales made during the first days ?

of course i know that if you preorder a game you can get before one week of its release, but I think it's a situation that barely happens
and usually weekly sales are always higher than preorder points, there are just some cases in which the first shipment is low so all preoders can't be filled, it happened to a 3DS game last year, I forgot the name, maybe AC Happy Designer
 
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Kresnik258

Member
Moor-Angol said:
what do you mean ? weekly points are not cumulative from preorders + sales made during the first days ?

of course i know that if you preorder a game you can get before one week of its release, but I think it's a situation that barely happens
and usually weekly sales are always higher than preorder points, there are just some cases in which the first shipment is low so all preoders can't be filled, it happened to a 3DS game last year, I forgot the name, maybe AC Happy Designer
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My understanding is that the pre-orders are separate from the weekly sales. Specifically when weekly sales have been notably lower than pre-orders (can't find examples now since I'm in work, sorry).
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Kresnik258 said:
My understanding is that the pre-orders are separate from the weekly sales. Specifically when weekly sales have been notably lower than pre-orders (can't find examples now since I'm in work, sorry).
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Your understanding is wrong. Like every retailer, weekly sales = preorders + additional sales. If weekly sales are lower than preorders they didn't have the shipment to meet them.
 
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hiska-kun

Member
Kresnik258 said:
My understanding is that the pre-orders are separate from the weekly sales. Specifically when weekly sales have been notably lower than pre-orders (can't find examples now since I'm in work, sorry).
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Of course they are the same. You should read this:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=195839321

Basically, Kancolle only sold pre-orders, not new users. Obviously people don't want to risk their money.
The few times that weekly chart was lower than the pre-order was under shipping. It's a tipical Comg thing to accept more pre-orders than shipment.
 
Allan Holdsworth

Allan Holdsworth

Member
I just found out about the Happy Price Selection 3DS line Nintendo is releasing.
Is this the first time they do budget reprints of their games in Japan? I recall there was the GBA SMB game that go re-released, but other than that I don't remember ever happening. The Wii one was all third-party games, for instance, even if it was propped up by Nintendo.
 
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hiska-kun

Member
Moor-Angol said:
what do you mean ? weekly points are not cumulative from preorders + sales made during the first days ?

of course i know that if you preorder a game you can get before one week of its release, but I think it's a situation that barely happens
and usually weekly sales are always higher than preorder points, there are just some cases in which the first shipment is low so all preoders can't be filled, it happened to a 3DS game last year, I forgot the name, maybe AC Happy Designer
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It happened with Splatoon, they couldn't fill pre-orders. Splatoon was heavily supply constrained at launch.
 
M

Moor-Angol

Banned
Allan Holdsworth said:
I just found out about the Happy Price Selection 3DS line Nintendo is releasing.
Is this the first time they do budget reprints of their games in Japan? I recall there was the GBA SMB game that go re-released, but other than that I don't remember ever happening. The Wii one was all third-party games, for instance, even if it was propped up by Nintendo.
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As for nintendo it should be the first time, but I might be wrong (I think they made something on Wii, cause I remember a Momotaru Dentetsu with budget price), as for third parties they already did that in the past (at least from GBA times, Castlevania budget releases are highly priced just to mention one)

Curios to see how the market will react, nintendo titles always keep their price year by year, maybe those reprints will make used market becoming (finally) cheaper?
 
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hiska-kun

Member
GamesMaya updated her blog reporting that Wii U stock problems are still continuing.
She is complaining about how Nintendo isn't giving any information about when and how many units they plan to ship.
She mentions that if for example, a guest that wants to buy Wii U goes to 5 different shops, every shop will order one console, making 5, when only 1 will be needed. When the shipment arrives overstock might happen with this misinformation.

The other blog already complained about Nintendo and the Wii U situation. Retailers are not happy about the current situation, for sure.
 
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Tripon

Member
hiska-kun said:
GamesMaya updated her blog reporting that Wii U stock problems are still continuing.
She is complaining about how Nintendo isn't giving any information about when and how many units they plan to ship.
She mentions that if for example, a guest that wants to buy Wii U goes to 5 different shops, every shop will order one console, making 5, when only 1 will be needed. When the shipment arrives overstock might happen with this misinformation.

The other blog already complained about Nintendo and the Wii U situation. Retailers are not happy about the current situation, for sure.
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Is there any reasons for the storage? It also seems to affect only Japan. I never heard of any issues in NA or Europe for instance.
 
M

Moskalova

Member
Moor-Angol said:
Platform charts weekly update

PS4
The most interesting thing this week was the top20 updated, for weekly sales DQB keep selling well but I'd say that the surprise of the first months of 2016 is undoubtely Rainbow 6 Siege, still charting after 2 months.
Last but not least last week 10 PS4 games charted, 5 of them made in Japan, 5 of them made in the West.



3DS
Don't know if SMT4:F did well or not, but it's another game +100k game on this platform (132); Hyrule Warriors Legends keeps selling, Pokemon Rumble World reappeared (maybe basket bin?) and also after a month MK7 showed itself into the top30.



PSV
Nothing interesting this week, except for DQB climbing over 2 positions, Minecraft is near to 1 year chart milestone and Gundam Extreme probably says bye-bye.



Wii U
Same as Vita, Splatoon is ready to reach the top spot and Mario Tennis is in line with the "road to 200k" target while Mario Maker is slowing down a little affected by the Wii U stock problems.



PS3
DQB jumps 27 positions and start seeing the 100k mark, it will be the 208th title considering that Yakuza Kiwami just did it this week. Nothing else happened besides Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 last appareance into the chart.
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Moor, 3DS chart link doesn't work :(
 
V

Vena

Member
hiska-kun said:
GamesMaya updated her blog reporting that Wii U stock problems are still continuing.
She is complaining about how Nintendo isn't giving any information about when and how many units they plan to ship.
She mentions that if for example, a guest that wants to buy Wii U goes to 5 different shops, every shop will order one console, making 5, when only 1 will be needed. When the shipment arrives overstock might happen with this misinformation.

The other blog already complained about Nintendo and the Wii U situation. Retailers are not happy about the current situation, for sure.
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I'd imagine that if the problem is as was mentioned in the previous week thread about the supply issues at the factory, that Nintendo may not even know.

Still, I expect them to make reparations later on. Its generally good practice when stuff like this happens. Otherwise you end up with the Amazon/3DS scenario.

Any word from her on the 2DS stuff?
 
A

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
hiska-kun said:
GamesMaya updated her blog reporting that Wii U stock problems are still continuing.
She is complaining about how Nintendo isn't giving any information about when and how many units they plan to ship.
She mentions that if for example, a guest that wants to buy Wii U goes to 5 different shops, every shop will order one console, making 5, when only 1 will be needed. When the shipment arrives overstock might happen with this misinformation.

The other blog already complained about Nintendo and the Wii U situation. Retailers are not happy about the current situation, for sure.
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Simply embarassing
 
M

Moor-Angol

Banned
so according to the US nintendo release list leak 3ds will have a price drop after the summer
as I expect something similar in Japan too I wonder if the same thing will happen to Wii U too
 
C

crinale

Member
Moor-Angol said:
so according to the US nintendo release list leak 3ds will have a price drop after the summer
as I expect something similar in Japan too I wonder if the same thing will happen to Wii U too
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With the current model making Nintendo spend a little money instead of making some the re-modeled WiiU makes sense (with lower BOM they could make money even with lowered price). However with NX incoming I really can't predict how Nintendo will handle WiiU from now on..
 
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Vena

Member
crinale said:
With the current model making Nintendo spend a little money instead of making some the re-modeled WiiU makes sense (with lower BOM they could make money even with lowered price). However with NX incoming I really can't predict how Nintendo will handle WiiU from now on..
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Given the fact that there's stock problems of just he regular WiiU, you know production lines for the parts are already running thin on the ground. They'll not invest the R&D into a re-model, they'll just retire it.

Maybe this is why NX home console is now being speculated as the forerunner. They may be trying to get themselves off of that production arm, while both 3DS and NX will be running ARM nodes (with the former being popular enough to be maintainable at scale).
 
M

Moor-Angol

Banned
crinale said:
With the current model making Nintendo spend a little money instead of making some the re-modeled WiiU makes sense (with lower BOM they could make money even with lowered price). However with NX incoming I really can't predict how Nintendo will handle WiiU from now on..
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maybe the "home" version will appear for first so a wiiu price drop it's out of the question according to their point of view
Nintendo often focused their efforts on the new model the year it's introduced on the market, see how they handled N64 in 2001 or GC in 2006 or Wii in 2011

at this point a "handheld" version planned for spring 2017 would make necessary a 3ds price drop this autumn (especially considering the following winter holidays)
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
The usual blog expects similar opening with 3DS for Attack on Titan. Preorders were low but last minute media push helped it and sell-through isn't bad.
 
P

Pennywise83

Banned
Chris1964 said:
The usual blog expects similar opening with 3DS for Attack on Titan. Preorders were low but last minute media push helped it and sell-through isn't bad.
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With likely less legs and higher production values, that's still quite disappointing. A similar opening with 3DS Attack on Titan means that each version is probably below 40k units.
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Trevelyan9999 said:
3DS release list 2016 *Funded by Nintendo only*:

Spring-Early Summer
Code Name: &#8220;Caviar F&#8221; (all ages smaller budget game)

Summer
Code name: &#8220;Torte City&#8221; big budget unannounced game for all gamers core/all ages
Code name: &#8220;Cadillac&#8221; (all ages smaller budget game late summer)

Fall-Holiday
3DS Hardware Price Cut
Code name: &#8220;N-Stars&#8221; big budget game for all ages
Pokémon 20th Anniversary game &#8220;Niji&#8221; (remember code names mean nothing, forget about the Rainbow, your gold is not there)
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I guess this is the end of the theory Pokemon won't appear on 3DS this year.
 
C

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
hiska-kun said:
GamesMaya updated her blog reporting that Wii U stock problems are still continuing.
She is complaining about how Nintendo isn't giving any information about when and how many units they plan to ship.
She mentions that if for example, a guest that wants to buy Wii U goes to 5 different shops, every shop will order one console, making 5, when only 1 will be needed. When the shipment arrives overstock might happen with this misinformation.

The other blog already complained about Nintendo and the Wii U situation. Retailers are not happy about the current situation, for sure.
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lol Nintendo...thats just stupid
Chris1964 said:
I guess this is the end of the theory Pokemon won't appear on 3DS this year.
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I dont think anyone ever doubted a main Pokemon release on 3DS this year.
 
M

Moor-Angol

Banned
casiopao said:
This... Is quite shocking lol. Is this the first time things like this ever happen?
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I think it's just a stupid excuse
I was planning to buy the game since its announcement, last week I tried the demo and I liked, but of course I would have bought the game on D1 and not preordering (why pay now when i can pay 2 months later?)

if Marvelous nowadays think that people preorder a lot they are out of time...
 
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