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[Destructoid] Leaked photo of NX controller?

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So anything new in the past few days? It's fake right?

Nothing new and we won't hear from the guy who leaked it ever again. Imo a proof that it's a fake. But hey...maybe it's not bit with these crazy NDAs going around we won't hear any comment from an believable source till Nintendo reveals the NX.
So the thread will move slowly on with some people who believe it true and others who thibk it is fake.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Wouldn't this controller/handheld, if legit (which I doubt), mean that Rhythm Heaven would have to return to the touch-based inputs of the first game? Or would they go the Megamix route & just do taps to simulate a button press?
 

DrForester

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https://twitter.com/ChrisCrossLife/status/711149473288818688
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It's also possible that the image on screen is printed and stuck behind plastic, then lit up with a light bulb inside. I actually think that's what's going on here given the light Hotspot in the center of the screen. Could be camera flash too, but the rest of the image does not indicate a flash was used.

Yeah, I think the blurriness and color temperature of the image is an indicator that no flash was used. It would reflect more aggressively on the screen as well. Shadows seem to all match up to a single light source that is not from the cameras point of view and overall exposure tells me matrix metering or even hdr was used when taking the image. I also think that if a light bulb was mounted internally it would take some good amount of masking on the inside in order for the light to not leak from any other part of the casing, including the sticks.
 

georly

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Seriously, where's the comment by the fake Rayman in Smash guy?

That his CG character didn't set off flags in the software that detects if you modified an image?

Of course it wouldn't. I'm sure if you run that software on any render at all it doesn't set anything off. The software also doesn't get set off if you save over the file hundreds of times, either.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
That his CG character didn't set off flags in the software that detects if you modified an image?

Of course it wouldn't. I'm sure if you run that software on any render at all it doesn't set anything off. The software also doesn't get set off if you save over the file hundreds of times, either.
But either way, the image is most likely fake due to the issue of the image on the screen not lining up with the perspective of the screen.
 

Chao

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Sticks look out of place. If the screen is emitting light they should be lit in a different way. It looks like the picture was shot at a device without a screen, and then the image was photoshopped on top.

Could be real, but looks fake. And stupid.

But people fell for that Nintendo On thing, which was clearly fake from second 1.
 

georly

Member
But either way, the image is most likely fake due to the issue of the image on the screen not lining up with the perspective of the screen.

I don't buy that argument, but even so, it hasn't been proven real yet, either. We'll see in a few months, I guess.
 
Yeah a Wii U pro that doesn't have the Y button so far into the controller making me reach for it with my thumb would be nice.

I was thinking, Wii U pro controller setup with a wider shape to fit a small screen (4" or so), analog triggers for ZL and ZR, scroll wheels to replace L and R, coloured buttons to match the old super famicom (thing regular new 3DS colors) and matte instead of gloss. With more intense rumble and motion controls.

Something like this with a screen and in black.

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There are a few concepts out there that fit that bill, and I actually quite like them. I've always been a fan of the Gamecube controller, and I think with a few tweaks it could be great.


Something like this, with a screen the size of the iPhone 6S Plus would be nice. I'd change the face buttons and add those scroll wheel LR buttons. Love the shape, though.
 
There are a few concepts out there that fit that bill, and I actually quite like them. I've always been a fan of the Gamecube controller, and I think with a few tweaks it could be great.



Something like this, with a screen the size of the iPhone 6S Plus would be nice. I'd change the face buttons and add those scroll wheel LR buttons. Love the shape, though.

I'm torn. While I would LOVE to see Nintendo just go back to a GameCube style console, we already have so many traditional platforms. I wouldn't mind seeing something different, either.
 
Well we're 116 50pppages in so I think it's time for me to come to a decision,

I'll say it is a real fake (dumb terminal) handheld for a real handheld devkit.
I don't think the fact nintendo patented a long detailed text description of a mostly eliptical screen which covers the front of the unit with two holes near the sides for protruding input devices is a reason to say it's fake, there is only so many ways you can draw a concept like that.
The mere fact this has a cable attached would make it the best thought through fake since the dawn of wireless devices, they've really done well to make it like a w.i.p. if it was fake and I don't think I've seen anything like that before.

Will the final handheld resemble that? More or less, there's not much room for change unless they extend the bottom half for more side to grip on to. The sticks may have a different design, bezel will probably look prettier, camera and speaker designs will look neater.

But I don't trust the guy who posted it, might just be some random dude with a friend who sent him the pic.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Well we're 116 50pppages in so I think it's time for me to come to a decision,

I'll say it is a real fake handheld for a real handheld devkit.
I don't think the fact nintendo patented a long detailed text description of a mostly eliptical screen which covers the front of the unit with two holes near the sides for protruding input devices is a reason to say it's fake, there is only so many ways you can draw a concept like that.
The mere fact this has a cable attached would make it the best thought through fake since the dawn of wireless devices, they've really done well to make it like a w.i.p. if it was fake and I don't think I've seen anything like that before.

Will the final handheld resemble that? More or less, there's not much room for change unless they extend the bottom half for more side to grip on to. The sticks may have a different design, bezel will probably look prettier, camera and speaker designs will look neater.

But I don't trust the guy who posted it, might just be some random dude with a friend who sent him the pic.
But again, what about the inconsistent screen perspective?
 

ZOONAMI

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That his CG character didn't set off flags in the software that detects if you modified an image?

Of course it wouldn't. I'm sure if you run that software on any render at all it doesn't set anything off. The software also doesn't get set off if you save over the file hundreds of times, either.

Can you quote the original post that has all the reasons why he thinks it's fake? Some of it's on twitter like the lack of screen moire https://mobile.twitter.com/artsyomni/status/710667497847001088.
 
But again, what about the inconsistent screen perspective?

There isn't one. The comparison picture I saw used a perspective corrected video screen to match. The weird part is the screen looking like it's from the top right of the video frame, but an input to pan around the screen would be enough to do that, including my guess of it being headtracking-based panning. (move head slightly or tilt device slightly to see more up and down, or left and right to see behind your thumbsticks)
 

georly

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Can you quote the original post that has all the reasons why he thinks it's fake? Some of it's on twitter like the lack of screen moire https://mobile.twitter.com/artsyomni/status/710667497847001088.

Sorry, all I knew about was the one post. Didn't know about the moire.

I don't know enough about all of this to know if what he's saying is valid or not, especially in this image in particular. All I know is that i've seen some of other 'fakes' debunked for similar reasons that turned out to be real in the end. With nintendo seemingly leaking a lot of information recently and the fact that this looks really similar to the patent and would require an insane amount of work to fake, i'd say that it's entirely plausible this could be real. None of the 'it's fake' arguments have sold me on it being fake, and of course, nothing save for an official reveal can prove this is real.
 

Samemind

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For those asking about the Rayman fake guy's comments, here's what I remember seeing

Artsy Omni said:
NOPE. I call fake. This is clearly completely based on the patents that were filed, but the person who made this seems to have not noticed that the controller depicted in the patent had grips on it. Also, that "program often used to tell if an image has been Photoshopped" didn't find anything amiss with the Rayman "leak." Just saying. =P

Add to that the fact that there seems to be no glass or plastic surface on the display which would be evidenced by screen parallax the edges of the screen. Also, no evidence of screen moiré, which is typical of a photo of a screen like this. The freeform Sharp displays (which is what Nintendo would be using) photographed at comparable angles show significant screen moiré.

Sourced from this post
Artsy Omni (the guy who made the fake Rayman leak) gave his thoughts on the rumor.

Edit: Original comment from this video's comments section
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5a66Dm_70w
 

maxcriden

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I'm now expecting a 7/21 NX announcement. I think we will get a glimpse at the handheld, to be released in Feb 2017 in JP and Mar 2017 elsewhere. In the meantime, the focus will be on a worldwide November 18, 2016 launch for the NX console. Zelda U will be cross-platform at launch, and just for graphicshorse I'm going to saywe will get a HH port at the launch of that system as well. 😉 A 3D Super Mario and a system showcase game will also be available at launch, with SSB4 Complete coming in December. March will see the Retro game, and hey while we're at it, DKR2 in May and Pikmin 4 in August.
 
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it...but what about those accessories you put on a touch screen to emulate analog sticks or buttons?
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Might explain the weird lighting around the sticks.
Or could be an admittedly un-nintendo solution if the haptic feed back isn't up to snuff
 
Nintendo has never done VR, they just made a fixed HMD that tried to trade on the 'virtual' buzzword of the time. It was as VR as a tomytronic 3D.
edit: reading up on it they did apparently have head tracking planned before they removed it for health concerns, but with visuals being mostly 2d I can't imagine how VR games would have worked.
 
Why?

They were the ones doing it before Sony.
I assume we're talking about the Virtual Boy? The worst selling standalone "handheld" system in Nintendo's history?

Maybe they did it "first", they also did it "bad" and that left a pretty sour taste behind.

I'd believe that the only way for NX to have VR, is when Nintendo partners with either Oculus or Valve/HTC and getting on of those devices supported for the system.
 
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it...but what about those accessories you put on a touch screen to emulate analog sticks or buttons?
hqdefault.jpg

Might explain the weird lighting around the sticks.
Or could be an admittedly un-nintendo solution if the haptic feed back isn't up to snuff

Actually that's quite ingenious! Allows for unlimited configurations, and provides the feel and precision of physical buttons! (in theory at least, let's see how it actually feels first). But assuming it does, the NX could come with an assortment of various types of buttons and sticks, and games would show you where to place the ones it needs on the screen to fit the game's control scheme. I would say wow.
 
Actually that's quite ingenious! Allows for unlimited configurations, and provides the feel and precision of physical buttons! (in theory at least, let's see how it actually feels first). But assuming it does, the NX could come with an assortment of various types of buttons and sticks, and games would show you where to place the ones it needs on the screen to fit the game's control scheme. I would say wow.

It would be terrible and won't ever happen. There's no way they'd be sturdy enough to not fall off occasionally/all the time, and people would lose them all the time

Somewhat related: Removable buttons would be at complete odds with the rumored haptic display
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
There isn't one. The comparison picture I saw used a perspective corrected video screen to match. The weird part is the screen looking like it's from the top right of the video frame, but an input to pan around the screen would be enough to do that, including my guess of it being headtracking-based panning. (move head slightly or tilt device slightly to see more up and down, or left and right to see behind your thumbsticks)
But what about the fact that the image is perfectly cropped to the screen, despite the fact that the picture was taken at an angle?
 

gafneo

Banned
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it...but what about those accessories you put on a touch screen to emulate analog sticks or buttons?
hqdefault.jpg

Might explain the weird lighting around the sticks.
Or could be an admittedly un-nintendo solution if the haptic feed back isn't up to snuff

They slide off and don't work period.
 
Something that I don't think has been brought up enough is that companies file more patents than they actually use. For instance I remember the patent for a DualShock controller that could split in half - a terrible idea that Sony has thankfully left in the depths on Hell. Just because Nintendo has some controller patents that's doesn't mean their eventual controller or handheld will resemble that patent, because unless every Nintendo controller or handheld patent that has been filed has also been reported or found, it could be something completely different.
 

Yagharek

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Wouldn't this controller/handheld, if legit (which I doubt), mean that Rhythm Heaven would have to return to the touch-based inputs of the first game? Or would they go the Megamix route & just do taps to simulate a button press?

The first game was on gameboy advance.
 
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