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NX Controller Rumor [Up5: Original was fake, and thus this is too]

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Haha they are gonna call it the Wii U 2.

A grand FU to all of us.

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bounchfx

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I'm interested. I'm not sure how some are already judging it so harshly when we know so little. As far as I can imagine, that's not even the main screen. Who knows, really. I don't see why anyone would want another xbone/ps4 because there is absolutely no reason for another to exist. New experiences are far more interesting and rewarding. If you want graphics, go PC. If you want controller, go xbone/ps4. Why wish for something we already have?

Waiting for more info to make a real judgement as far as hype/not hype, but call me cautiously optimistic. I just hope they actually utilize the qualities of the system this time, unlike Wii U. Nintendo seems to keep their ideas sizzling and half baked instead of fully realized.
 

Wolfie5

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I can see it now... Reggie at E3:
"It´s not about what you see, it´s about what you feel. You have to feel to believe!"

If this thing is the real deal, it really makes you wonder about the lack of buttons. But I will wait for the reveal, before making any judgement. We know to little.
 
So I'm trying to figure out why what I thought was a microphone slot in the first leak, is not present in today's leak. Anyone else notice this? Or am I just crazy?

Excuse the poor MSpaint skills:
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Because it's much easier to create an attractive mock-up using actual, real game images than to try to create an interface designed for a screen no one's tried to actually use yet?
I'm sure that's true, but that's also why those gifs look super dumb you know? Like that would never happen, and if it did happen it would be stupid.
 
The feel and shape of a button. But not the tactile feedback or accuracy. Because you're still pressing down on fluid-filled rubber domes, which sounds atrocious for gaming.

For the rest of your post, I agree. This is a proposed solution for a problem that never existed.



Yup, also that. As I said, this technology is supposed to fix the lack of buttons where you're not supposed to find buttons. But on a controller ? It's like removing screws and replace them with duct tape or cheap glue.
 

MK_768

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Yes, if it has a controller like what we are seeing, then I think it surely will be. Do you really think the Nintendo diehards are going to accept no buttons or a d-pad? How about the Xbox and PS crowd? What does that leave... the phone market?

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But of course let us wait and see, as I have said. I am hoping for the best.

I mean those people didn't make the Wii U or a Gamecube a success lol. Clearly Nintendo diehards aren't enough That's just a fact.
 
These technologies are fine at trying to emulating the feel of a button... but these are meant for devices you don't expect to have buttons. Not only they're not as accurate as buttons, it's also expensive. But the point is to bring buttons where there shouldn't be buttons for other uses.

But in that controller case ?? It makes no sense. 2 dollars buttons does a shitton better job than this. Putting this in a controller is an expensive way to try to fix something that was never broken and worked better before your attempt at fixing it.

Yeah i think this is what it comes down too. It is just whether the inputs are responsive and tactile enough to be accurate and accessible.

But i think if true, digital buttons do have ..not advantages.. but they do have pros to them, mainly the customisation aspect of different decals and placement which i think is quite a big selling point. Options.
 

trixx

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How much do you guys think will cost as a controller? It makes no sense that they will sell this as their controller. It looks pretty expensive and I'm sure they'll be able to sell at a reasonable price..

I still think it may be the handheld

This would drive up the costs, for little reasoning.
 

cordy

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On the real...

I pray this works and it's the most successful Nintendo hardware since the DS handheld. I actually miss Nintendo being at the forefront. Hell even the Wii's sales would be fine.
 

Smellycat

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Okay guys, as cool as it is in theory... In order for the buttons to 'rise up' with some kind of fluid that gets injected into predetermined spots, the top layer of the screen needs to be this thin film. You can already tell that this does not give a super smooth surface (look at the bottom part when the screen is 'flat'). It's a cool technology, but none of the 'in-action' footage looks consumer ready. I strongly doubt Nintendo somehow found out how to pull this off (or found a company that did), considering it would be huge in the smartphone/tablet industry if this worked as well as it sounds on paper.

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This isn't practical at all, especially if you are spamming A to win. That bubble (or whatever it is" would burst after 1 minute.
 
I hope this is just a clever joke or something because it looks uncomfortable as hell and there's no point having a screen covered by your thumbs and fingers, also I fucking hate touch screens on phones to the point where I purposely stick to BlackBerry phones so I have a proper keypad.
 
Full picture or not, this is just gamepad 2.0 without buttons. Another expensive gimmick that brings nothing to the table :/
At this point, all I'm hoping is that we'll get buttons. Because at this point, no dpad, no face buttons, no triggers... this thing is dead.

Kids are gonna love it! I actually showed a picture of the other day's leak to a couple students of mine. They were like "Whoooaaa!" haha
 

Ashodin

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This isn't practical at all, especially if you are spamming A to win. That bubble (or whatever it is" would burst after 1 minute.

It's not a bubble, it's the actual physical screen lifted up by pneumatics to simulate a button. When you "press it" the depression goes inward.
 

Peterc

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At this point in time, Nintendo's weird hardware is not needed. There is an onslaught of VR hardware coming that is both unique and actually practical unlike most Nintendo's innovations. Nintendo usually offers a breath of fresh air with stagnant hardware design but now way this can compete with VR.

I wish Nintendo would just become a software company.



VR is another gimmick like wii was, it doesn't last long, you even can play a few games on it that work, all the rest will give you motion sickness.

Thanks to nintendo, sony can use the move gimmicks with psvr.
Allot of how the traditional controllers are today, is because nintendo made them this way. (not the shape).


So would nintendo need to do software only? I hope not, the evolution of gaming will be sad.

Even at the momen we are just making speculations and don't know shit
 
Yeah i think this is what it comes down too. It is just whether the inputs are responsive and tactile enough to be accurate and accessible.

But i think if true, digital buttons do have ..not advantages.. but they do have pros to them, mainly the customisation aspect of different decals and placement which i think is quite a big selling point. Options.



The problem is, at the very best, this technology will try to be as close as it can to buttons. But they'll never be like buttons. It'll always be a subpar solution.

As for the customisation aspect... it's simply a gimmick. What will it be ? "Look ! There's only one button needed !"
They could've done that with leds in the buttons, and only light up for games that use them.


Kids are gonna love it! I actually showed a picture of the other day's leak to a couple students of mine. They were like "Whoooaaa!" haha


Kids are easy to please. If you base your hardware needs on what kids might love, you'll end up with that:
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And I wouldn't be surprised if the wow effect came from the slick design more than the lack of button.
 

BahamutPT

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So I'm trying to figure out why what I thought was a microphone slot in the first leak, is not present in today's leak. Anyone else notice this? Or am I just crazy?

Excuse the poor MSpaint skills:
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Nice catch!
The speaker slits also seem to have different sizes and the camera module appears to be different.
 

Zomba13

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This is a joke post, right? A touchscreen isn't new, and it's demonstrably worse than buttons. No, no, no.

Some people don't seem to realise we've been able to game on smart phones and iPod touches and tablets for years now and the most satisfying games are the ones that use the touch screen in ways, like swipe and tap etc and not fake buttons or fake dpads. Fake buttons are bad, it's why some companies make bluetooth pads and screenholding pad handheld things with buttons and stick sand dpads, because it's shit without them. It's why there are some companies that make little button and stick things you attach to the screen over the fake buttons so you have "proper" buttons to use in those games.

Everyone going "wow, innovative, 10/10 move, keep it up Nintendo!" go whip out you iOS or Android smartdevice and maybe try booting up a platofrmer that uses traditional inputs (buttons and dpad). Maybe load up an emulator if you can and try playing Super Mario Bros or World and see how much worse it is than on an actual pad. Maybe try and play an action game in the style of DMC or Bayonetta (if any even exist on those devices).


Now, if they do use the "buttons pop up" thing that would be cool in a "wow, technology is crazy" way and be a million times better than touch screen fake buttons, there is how they feel, are they like, squishy? are they like popping bubble wrap in that they are very clicky? Can you mash on them?

And even then, you get the issue of button placement. If every game has it's own popup buttons that can be different shapes or in different places then it creates an issue with muscle memory and knowing what button to press/where to press without looking at the controls on the side of the pad.

Like, you could have a Mario game that just has run and jump, simple. But what are those buttons called? Are they A and B? Run and Jump? 1 and 0? Then you boot up Dark Souls 4 and now you need to press X and O and Y. Now you play something else but A and B are flipped, not the Nintendo way but the Xbox way. It can just cause confusion on the same console. People already struggle going between Xbox and Wii U and PS they could have this problem now between games on a single system.
 

Hoo-doo

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Yeah i think this is what it comes down too. It is just whether the inputs are responsive and tactile enough to be accurate and accessible.

But i think if true, digital buttons do have ..not advantages.. but they do have pros to them, mainly the customisation aspect of different decals and placement which i think is quite a big selling point. Options.

Strict touchscreen buttons have that flexibility, yes. You can place them anywhere.

The rubber-dome pseudo-buttons don't have that flexibility at all. They are pre-set in their location and when unused, leave unsightly indentations and warped surfaces.

It's not a bubble, it's the actual physical screen lifted up by pneumatics to simulate a button. When you "press it" the depression goes inward.

It's a fluid filled bubble none-the-less. There's a website out there explaining the tech.
 

GHG

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Remove all conventional features from a product...

"Innovation'

I don't understand how any of this will work. I'm just not seeing it.
 
The problem is, at the very best, this technology will try to be as close as it can to buttons. But they'll never be like buttons. It'll always be a subpar solution.

As for the customisation aspect... it's simply a gimmick. What will it be ? "Look ! There's only one button needed !"
They could've done that with leds in the buttons, and only light up for games that use them.

I'm not sure how one even arrives at that conclusion...It will ALWAYS be subpar? Based on what? Based on the numerous other technological advanced that have remained worse than their replacements, right?
 

Epcott

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Nintendo: First, we gave you two buttons for Famicon.

Crowd: Yes yesss oh my.

Nintendo: Then we pioneered four buttons on Super Famicon...

Crowd: Yaaaaaaasss hallelujah! Yasss!! Praise Nin!

Nintendo: Now we present... No buttons for NX

Crowd: huh?
 
How the fuck would you even play Pokken on this thing? Action games would be unplayable on this thing.

What wouldn't be unplayable with the edges of the image cut off and two giant blind spots coming from the sticks?
It looks fancy at first, but in the end it would be a further crippled Wii U whose screen has even less of a purpose.
 

kaizoku

I'm not as deluded as I make myself out to be
VR is another gimmick like wii was, it doesn't last long, you even can play a few games on it that work, all the rest will give you motion sickness.

Thanks to nintendo, sony can use the move gimmicks with psvr.
Allot of how the traditional controllers are today, is because nintendo made them this way. (not the shape).


So would nintendo need to do software only? I hope not, the evolution of gaming will be sad.

Even at the momen we are just making speculations and don't know shit

Lol have you tried the vive? It's the real deal. The only question is if there will be enough wow factor games. But even regular games will be cool in VR I bet.
 

Indigo Rush

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At this point in time, Nintendo's weird hardware is not needed. There is an onslaught of VR hardware coming that is both unique and actually practical unlike most Nintendo's innovations. Nintendo usually offers a breath of fresh air with stagnant hardware design but now way this can compete with VR.

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Believe.
 
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