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"I Need a New PC!" 2015 Part 2. Read the OP. Rocking 2500K's until HBM2 and beyond.

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My dad has a Compaq CQ5700F which has an Athlon II 170u. He wants to upgrade the processor, but him and I are not sure what can be installed here. What's the list of compatible CPUs for this model? I believe the CPU is 95 wats and AMD 3 board, but I'm not sure.

A used Phenom II X3 720 Black for $30 is all I can think to recommend. I believe your dad is working with a 1-core 2ghz chip. 720 gets him 2.8ghz x 3.

Maybe Phenom II X2 570 Black for 3.5ghz x 2 seeing as you won't be OCing at all and better performance per core. Around $30 used too.

You will need a new cooler too.

AM3 is still slow as balls so don't expect miracles.
 

Darknight

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Hey dudes, anyone know if you buy something from the Ebay Newegg store, does Newegg still give you their full warranty on parts? I know you get a newegg invoice when you purchase stuff even on their ebay store.

I dont know why but this year, I keep getting ebay's 10x bucks/10%off from purchases. I'm gonna take advantage for sure if I can.
 

LilJoka

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Thanks, my link to what I have so far is:

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/c8rr99

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£289.98 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£26.99 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£125.55 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£57.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£45.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.92 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£267.54 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case (£60.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£80.66 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full (32/64-bit) (£85.88 @ More Computers)
Total: £1079.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 19:06 BST+0100
 

Oxn

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Have you got a pcpartpicker link to the build?
Fractal Node 304 is an alternative case.



Make sure both PCIE Power spots on the GPU are plugged in.

Check monitor input selection

To get onboard GPU to work, you need to unplug the GTX 780

I have reseated my ram, unplugged and replugged everything, removed my gpu, cleared the cmos and still nothing.
 

Turrican3

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Guys, I'm having issues with Clonezilla Live USB on my brand new i5 6600 + Asus H170M-Plus.

Basically I've tried both 32 and 64 bit versions, even resorting to failsafe, but it always hangs immediately after selecting the desired boot/video mode. Same results with a slightly (08-2015) older version, so I don't really know what else I might try. By the way, PC works perfectly with Windows 7.
Solved by making my own Live USB off a VERY old Clonezilla build... the very same one I've been using for years!?

Weird, but well... it worked so I can't really complain.
 
I have reseated my ram, unplugged and replugged everything, removed my gpu, cleared the cmos and still nothing.

So neither the onboard nor the GPU output isn't working? That's strange. Checked the monitor cables already? Is the POST successful as usual or do you hear any beeps?
 

Oxn

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So neither the onboard nor the GPU output isn't working? That's strange. Checked the monitor cables already? Is the POST successful as usual or do you hear any beeps?

Correct. I have 2 monitors to test with, i even tried hdmi and dvi.

The computer turns on like normally, the fans are running full blast, but nothing on the screen.

I dont hear any beeps.
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£289.98 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£26.99 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£125.55 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£57.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£45.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.92 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£267.54 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case (£60.00)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£80.66 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full (32/64-bit) (£85.88 @ More Computers)
Total: £1079.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 19:06 BST+0100

thank you very much but i stupidly forgot to mention that i already own the i7-4790k as i managed to snag one for £190 in a recent ebay sale
 

LilJoka

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Correct. I have 2 monitors to test with, i even tried hdmi and dvi.

The computer turns on like normally, the fans are running full blast, but nothing on the screen.

I dont hear any beeps.

You are being too vague.

1) Fans full blast means it has not POST'd usually.
2) Fans spin down to reasonable speeds mean its POST'd
3) You need to remove the GPU totally from the system and plug the display into the onboard GPU from the motherboard output. Simply plugging into the Mobo output wont work since the GTX 780 is disabling the onboard GPU when it is plugged into the Mobo.
4) Try only 1 stick of RAM, and test both sticks in both slots seperatly.
5) Check the 8 pin CPU power and 24 Pin ATX power cables are plugged in.

Most boards dont come with with a speaker anymore, usually the case comes with one that you plug into the board SPKR header. So we cannot determine anything from beeps.

thank you very much but i stupidly forgot to mention that i already own the i7-4790k as i managed to snag one for £190 in a recent ebay sale

Be aware that the PSU will not fit without being a bit clever. I got this PSU to fit in my Node 304 by removing the PSU bracket and pushing the PSU back as far as possible such that it doesnt foul the GPU. To remove the PSU bracket, you have to unscrew 4 screws. Then to hold the PSU in place, i zip tied the 24pin ATX cable to the case fan grill under the PSU itself through the honeycomb holes. So it will take a bit of thinking to get it all to fit nicely.
 
I've bought a 980ti because I spotted it on sale at NCIX and I knew it was the card I was going to get. I didn't want to wait to for the new ones (hope thats not weird lol).

What are the specs of your current PC? If you don't know you could check it with Speccy or CPU-Z or something like that.
 
Correct. I have 2 monitors to test with, i even tried hdmi and dvi.

The computer turns on like normally, the fans are running full blast, but nothing on the screen.

I dont hear any beeps.

How many RAM sticks do you have installed? Try each of them alone and remove the others.
 

Zaph

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Going to a computer fair in London tomorrow, are the components there generally more pricey than getting it online?
There was a time when the fairs around TCR had some great deals on new hardware, but the internet kinda put a bullet in that. If you're on a very tight budget there might be some second hand older gen bargains, but be sure they test everything in front of you.
 

Oxn

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You are being too vague.

1) Fans full blast means it has not POST'd usually.
2) Fans spin down to reasonable speeds mean its POST'd
3) You need to remove the GPU totally from the system and plug the display into the onboard GPU from the motherboard output. Simply plugging into the Mobo output wont work since the GTX 780 is disabling the onboard GPU when it is plugged into the Mobo.
4) Try only 1 stick of RAM, and test both sticks in both slots seperatly.
5) Check the 8 pin CPU power and 24 Pin ATX power cables are plugged in.

Most boards dont come with with a speaker anymore, usually the case comes with one that you plug into the board SPKR header. So we cannot determine anything from beeps.



Be aware that the PSU will not fit without being a bit clever. I got this PSU to fit in my Node 304 by removing the PSU bracket and pushing the PSU back as far as possible such that it doesnt foul the GPU. To remove the PSU bracket, you have to unscrew 4 screws. Then to hold the PSU in place, i zip tied the 24pin ATX cable to the case fan grill under the PSU itself through the honeycomb holes. So it will take a bit of thinking to get it all to fit nicely.

How many RAM sticks do you have installed? Try each of them alone and remove the others.

Ok this is the update.

So the mobo im using i use to use it as a htpc fwith an 15 3330. But now im using that mobo with my personal 3770k and it dont work. I decided to throw my i5 back in there and it works again with the onboard dvi.

Now not again.
 

Elitist1945

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What are the specs of your current PC? If you don't know you could check it with Speccy or CPU-Z or something like that.

This would be my first built Gaming PC. I had an Alienware X51 that I bought a few years ago, but I can't remember the specs of it. Nothing groundbreaking.
 
Hey guys, I need a little help with something; every year I give my PC a little upgrade, be it a new ram, hard drive, GPU or CPU, depending on my budget and how much I can get from reselling the replaced part. My current specs are this:

Monitor: LG 22 inches LED HDTV 1920x1080
CPU: Intel Core i5 3570k 3.80 GHz
GPU: Nvidia GTX 960 4G
RAM: 12 GB RAM
HDD: 1TB Seagate 7200 RPM

So my question is: What should I focus on upgrading next? My budget is in between $200 to $300, and maybe up to $400 depending on if I can resell the part that's going to get replaced and I wait a couple of months. What would you suggest?
 

valouris

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Guys, what is the consensus of 6600K vs 6700 vs 6700K, when paired with a modest high-end GPU (such as a 970) of this gen? (no SLI, no Titans) Is there a benefit from getting a 6700, or will the GPU bottleneck always stay the same?
What about Pascal? If someone plans on getting a similar tier Pascal card, what CPU would (to the best of our knowledge now) be the best pair?

Hey guys, I need a little help with something; every year I give my PC a little upgrade, be it a new ram, hard drive, GPU or CPU, depending on my budget and how much I can get from reselling the replaced part. My current specs are this:

Monitor: LG 22 inches LED HDTV 1920x1080
CPU: Intel Core i5 3570k 3.80 GHz
GPU: Nvidia GTX 960 4G
RAM: 12 GB RAM
HDD: 1TB Seagate 7200 RPM

So my question is: What should I focus on upgrading next? My budget is in between $200 to $300, and maybe up to $400 depending on if I can resell the part that's going to get replaced and I wait a couple of months. What would you suggest?

Wait for Pascal mid-to-high range, and get one of those? Then next year, upgrade your CPU/MOBO/RAM combo?
 
Be aware that the PSU will not fit without being a bit clever. I got this PSU to fit in my Node 304 by removing the PSU bracket and pushing the PSU back as far as possible such that it doesnt foul the GPU. To remove the PSU bracket, you have to unscrew 4 screws. Then to hold the PSU in place, i zip tied the 24pin ATX cable to the case fan grill under the PSU itself through the honeycomb holes. So it will take a bit of thinking to get it all to fit nicely.

That isn't something that I would feel confident doing being my first build, have updated my list on the below link, would that PSU be a better fit?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/XtRTvK
 

LilJoka

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That isn't something that I would feel confident doing being my first build, have updated my list on the below link, would that PSU be a better fit?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/XtRTvK

Sure that works, i choose to remove 4 screws such that i can fit a normal PSU, one that is a lot quieter than the SFX ones. Its not that difficult i have photos in this thread to show what i did if you like. Cant really go wrong imo.

The coolermAster V550S or V650S also would work without any modding, they are 140mm length. Most ATX PSUs are 160mm like the Corsair i chose.

Also why go for Haswell over Skylake when there is only £50 in it? Your getting tons of new features on the Z170 chipset that make it worthwhile when spending this much money on a build.
 

Kudo

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Ok, having some weird problems with Dark Souls 1-2 now.
Haven't played them in some time tried to play today, Dark Souls 1 gets stuck in black screen - if I leave it on for 5 minutes I get the "This game uses Auto Save..." and when I press OK it gets stuck again, not interested in finding out for how long.
Dark Souls 2 seems to work somehow, but in the beginning "Checking Save Data" and when loading save it takes longer than before and the animation stops, so I assume it gets stuck too.
HDD croaking or something else? Only thing I remember changing is getting new soundcard, no idea if that can be causing it.
Updating my drivers to 362.00 right now and checking if reboot helps..

EDIT: Reboot and newer drivers had no effect. Any ideas?
Could be happening in other games too, haven't tried.
 

LilJoka

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Ok, having some weird problems with Dark Souls 1-2 now.
Haven't played them in some time tried to play today, Dark Souls 1 gets stuck in black screen - if I leave it on for 5 minutes I get the "This game uses Auto Save..." and when I press OK it gets stuck again, not interested in finding out for how long.
Dark Souls 2 seems to work somehow, but in the beginning "Checking Save Data" and when loading save it takes longer than before and the animation stops, so I assume it gets stuck too.
HDD croaking or something else? Only thing I remember changing is getting new soundcard, no idea if that can be causing it.
Updating my drivers to 362.00 right now and checking if reboot helps..

EDIT: Reboot and newer drivers had no effect. Any ideas?
Could be happening in other games too, haven't tried.

Test other games.
If you suspect the HDD, use HDTune to check the SMART statistics in the Health tab.
 
Sure that works, i choose to remove 4 screws such that i can fit a normal PSU, one that is a lot quieter than the SFX ones. Its not that difficult i have photos in this thread to show what i did if you like. Cant really go wrong imo.

The coolermAster V550S or V650S also would work without any modding, they are 140mm length. Most ATX PSUs are 160mm like the Corsair i chose.

Also why go for Haswell over Skylake when there is only £50 in it? Your getting tons of new features on the Z170 chipset that make it worthwhile when spending this much money on a build.

Thanks, will look up those two PSU's, didn't realise the SFX would be louder, like I said, first time builder!

I went for that CPU as I wanted as strong a single core performance for mame and emulation as possible without an overclock and according to cpu benchmark it came out on top. Of course I want to improve on the PS4 that I am currently using but being able to play old arcade games as well as possible was always my priority.

Hope I didn't make a real mistake or misread the figures............
 

Kudo

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Test other games.
If you suspect the HDD, use HDTune to check the SMART statistics in the Health tab.

Tried, not sure if it happens as I'm not that familiar with the other games, so no freezing in them at least.
I don't want to suspect the HDD as it's fairly new got it last year and it has worked without problems so far - if it was the HDD Dark Souls 1 should at least work right?
Must be something else causing it..
 

LilJoka

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Thanks, will look up those two PSU's, didn't realise the SFX would be louder, like I said, first time builder!

I went for that CPU as I wanted as strong a single core performance for mame and emulation as possible without an overclock and according to cpu benchmark it came out on top. Of course I want to improve on the PS4 that I am currently using but being able to play old arcade games as well as possible was always my priority.

Hope I didn't make a real mistake or misread the figures............

Skylake CPUs are up to 10% faster than Haswell, no idea what benches youve been seeing, or if they even compared the latest CPUs from Intel.

The PSU i recommended has a hybrid mode, so the fans are off most of the time, until about 50% load, which in your case would be a heavy gaming load. The GPU would still be slightly louder in my experience though (i have the same MSI 970). The SFX PSUs are louder inherently as they incorporate a smaller fan, therefore must spin faster to achieve the same airflow. The 2 Coolermaster PSUs would me a middle ground solution.
 
Skylake CPUs are up to 10% faster than Haswell, no idea what benches youve been seeing, or if they even compared the latest CPUs from Intel.

The PSU i recommended has a hybrid mode, so the fans are off most of the time, until about 50% load, which in your case would be a heavy gaming load. The GPU would still be slightly louder in my experience though (i have the same MSI 970). The SFX PSUs are louder inherently as they incorporate a smaller fan, therefore must spin faster to achieve the same airflow. The 2 Coolermaster PSUs would me a middle ground solution.

Oh I don't doubt that being a new generation CPU Skylake is better than Haswell when it comes to say running Witcher 3 for example but I was pointed to this page https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html by several people who use mame and pcsx2 for reference, would be a bit gutted if they were wrong which I am now starting to think......will still be a bit better than running homebrew emulators on my wii though!

Thanks for those PSU recommendations, pcpartpicker didn't show any in stock but found this on amazon, can you please confirm its correct, the dimensions look ok.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0118FI5AM/

Thanks again, appreciate your input and help.
 

Onemic

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So how much faster is an i7-5960X and i7-5930K vs an i5-6600K? Those two CPUs still cost a ton even though they came out 2 years ago. One of the VR games Im interested in getting states a minimum requirement of an i7-5930K
 

LilJoka

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So how much faster is an i7-5960X and i7-5930K vs an i5-6600K? Those two CPUs still cost a ton even though they came out 2 years ago.

Much faster for certain tasks, games that are highly threaded and are cpu biased will greatly benefit.

They don't drop value since there is no competition from AMD vs Intel 6/8 core.
Oh I don't doubt that being a new generation CPU Skylake is better than Haswell when it comes to say running Witcher 3 for example but I was pointed to this page https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html by several people who use mame and pcsx2 for reference, would be a bit gutted if they were wrong which I am now starting to think......will still be a bit better than running homebrew emulators on my wii though!

Thanks for those PSU recommendations, pcpartpicker didn't show any in stock but found this on amazon, can you please confirm its correct, the dimensions look ok.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0118FI5AM/

Thanks again, appreciate your input and help.

I think the reason for this is due to the 4790K boosting single core speed to 4.4Ghz vs 4.2Ghz on Skylake.
I dont think its enough reason to get the 4790k over the 6700k though. You can easily OC it without having to do much, the 6700k's overclock much better overall and seem not to suffer from temperature limiting as much as the Haswell's.

Yes thats the right PSU. If you want the holy grail of threads related to the case, look for the official case thread on overclock.net.
 

Oxn

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Ok this is the update.

So the mobo im using i use to use it as a htpc fwith an 15 3330. But now im using that mobo with my personal 3770k and it dont work. I decided to throw my i5 back in there and it works again with the onboard dvi.

Now not again.

Still not working. Would the way you plug in the system headers have anything to do with it?

Only very rarely does the screen post, when i take off my AIO cooler off the cpu, and i do some combinations of clearing the CMOS
 

LilJoka

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Still not working. Would the way you plug in the system headers have anything to do with it?

Only very rarely does the screen post, when i take off my AIO cooler off the cpu, and i do some combinations of clearing the CMOS

What's the board model?
 

Theonik

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So how much faster is an i7-5960X and i7-5930K vs an i5-6600K? Those two CPUs still cost a ton even though they came out 2 years ago. One of the VR games Im interested in getting states a minimum requirement of an i7-5930K
The 6600K and 6700K should be noticeably faster in situations where processing isn't highly parallelized which describes most common computing and gaming scenarios. (while more cores/threads can offer improvements in some multi-tasking)

In heavily parallel workloads the 5930K and 5960X will see a noticeable performance lead due to the extra cores.

It is very difficult to answer this question without looking at the particular application
 
I think the reason for this is due to the 4790K boosting single core speed to 4.4Ghz vs 4.2Ghz on Skylake.
I dont think its enough reason to get the 4790k over the 6700k though. You can easily OC it without having to do much, the 6700k's overclock much better overall and seem not to suffer from temperature limiting as much as the Haswell's.

Yes thats the right PSU. If you want the holy grail of threads related to the case, look for the official case thread on overclock.net.

Well, thats a shame and I wish I had known such before pulling the trigger during the sale as my budget isnt enough to go for the i7-6700k at full retail. It was a stretch to even pay £190 for the i7-4790k, however I cant be too mad as three months ago I was dead set on getting a G3258!

Will take a look at that thread and will post a few pics once I am done with the build in a couple of weeks....
 

Ultrabum

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I want to buy either an Xbox one or ps4 controller to play dark souls 3 on my Windows 10 PC.

Which of these two has the easiest set up? Ideally I would like to plug it in and play it with the default controls without doing and xpadder stuff.

It an be wired or wireless, doesn't matter.

Thanks for any input.

Edit: sorry I know it's a little off topic.
 

Onemic

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The 6600K and 6700K should be noticeably faster in situations where processing isn't highly parallelized which describes most common computing and gaming scenarios. (while more cores/threads can offer improvements in some multi-tasking)

In heavily parallel workloads the 5930K and 5960X will see a noticeable performance lead due to the extra cores.

It is very difficult to answer this question without looking at the particular application

The game in paticular is The Blu, which is a VR exclusive game

Minimum specs are an i5-5930K, 8gb RAM and a GTX 970
Recommended specs are the same, but with 32gb of RAM instead
 
I want to buy either an Xbox one or ps4 controller to play dark souls 3 on my Windows 10 PC.

Which of these two has the easiest set up? Ideally I would like to plug it in and play it with the default controls without doing and xpadder stuff.

It an be wired or wireless, doesn't matter.

Thanks for any input.

Edit: sorry I know it's a little off topic.

Xbone hands down.It's plug and play with practically everything.
 

Oxn

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Bios updated?

I cant its not poting. I ruled out a psu problem since i used a different one.

Its most likely the mobo, which will be the worst thing that can happen. Trying to buy a mini itz z77 board now is crazy expensive.


Will probably have to upgrade to skylake if it is the problem.
 

Ieu

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Xbone hands down.It's plug and play with practically everything.

Agree. I prefer the DS4 but the Xbone pad is the new standard game pad, the wireless stick works well too although it's physically bigger than most USB sticks and would block any adjacent ports. Use an extension cable to avoid this.
 
I want to buy either an Xbox one or ps4 controller to play dark souls 3 on my Windows 10 PC.

Which of these two has the easiest set up? Ideally I would like to plug it in and play it with the default controls without doing and xpadder stuff.

It an be wired or wireless, doesn't matter.

Thanks for any input.

Edit: sorry I know it's a little off topic.

Really not Xbone hands down.

You use one application and a DS4 is as compatible with even more customizability than the 360/Xbone controller.

Whichever controller you like best, use that one.
 
So I'm a total newbie at this. Decided I want to build my own computer, not so much for gaming (maybe the occasional visual novel on Steam or something), but more of a movie watching/general use thing. Something I can call my own. But still be nice-ish spec wise.

I thought I'd post my parts list here and hope I could get some advice on if there are any improvements that could be made. I'm really not looking to spend more than it already is. But yeah, go easy on me I know it's probably terrible.

(SSD is for the OS. 3TB HDD due to music and shows I have)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-4350 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($66.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 950 2GB FTW ACX 2.0 Video Card ($169.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($73.88 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($54.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB (32/64-bit) ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($39.95 @ B&H)
Total: $986.41
 

Onemic

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I want to buy either an Xbox one or ps4 controller to play dark souls 3 on my Windows 10 PC.

Which of these two has the easiest set up? Ideally I would like to plug it in and play it with the default controls without doing and xpadder stuff.

It an be wired or wireless, doesn't matter.

Thanks for any input.

Edit: sorry I know it's a little off topic.

Which would you rather use? Xbone controller is plug and play but the DS4 only requires a single application which is extremely easy to set up and requires no manual mapping of inputs or anything like that. It's just a 5mb application install and youre good to go.
 
No no no, don't even think of going AM3 with that budget. You could build a medium/high end PC so you could also play games at good enough settings beside other things. Do you need an Atx case?

Well I figured the extra room inside wouldn't hurt, plus I really like that case after watching reviews of it.
I just really like it

If I shouldn't go AM3, what would you suggest?
 
Anybody?

Quick question:

My PSU has an 8 and 6 pin power cable, which is fine for my 970 but the 980ti I was getting needs two lots of 8 pins. Is there going to be an issue if I use a 6 to 8 pin adapter for one of them?

PSU is a cooler master 800w silent pro gold.
 

LilJoka

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Anybody?

Quick question:

My PSU has an 8 and 6 pin power cable, which is fine for my 970 but the 980ti I was getting needs two lots of 8 pins. Is there going to be an issue if I use a 6 to 8 pin adapter for one of them?

No, it will be fine. The extra pins are Ground iirc. As long as there is sufficient Amps on the 12V rail on the PSU (model would help) then there won't be an issue.
 

BraXzy

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Hey GAF, I have this case and this MOBO.

Will it fit a GTX 970? Should've had one on the way but eBay screwed up. Waiting for the 5th for whatever it is that might make prices drop. Thanks :)
 
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