I think a lot of people have thought this too (I'm one of them). Noshow at E3, no timeframe for when information will be coming, a highly coincidental "in March 2017" release date which just so happens to be at the very end of the FY....I can't see this thing coming out until November 2017 if I'm honest.
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NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)
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I think a lot of people have thought this too (I'm one of them). Noshow at E3, no timeframe for when information will be coming, a highly coincidental "in March 2017" release date which just so happens to be at the very end of the FY....I can't see this thing coming out until November 2017 if I'm honest.
Audioboxer
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But by "games" you mean one game really, Zelda, which has already been confirmed for NX meaning if they only show a Wii U version at E3 everyone is going to be like where's NX version? How does it compare graphically? Why should I buy Wii U version when it's being put out at the same time as NX now?
Maybe if the Wii U version came out this year it would soften the blow a little. As it isn't, everyone will just be thinking about the NX when Zelda is spoken about now.
wild wild rice
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Right, or earlier, for the optimists in denial because March 2017 is in the same fiscal year as Nov 2016.
TheCanisDirus
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Glad i could help! I'm sure i'd find a number of your opinions equally hilarious as well!
My opinion stands regardless. After the WiiU this NX thing whatever it is i hope it's good for them. Or mobile/cell phone games it is for Nintendo then.
Captain Smoker
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The funniest part about this thread is that the same people will hype the NX-reveal-event to death at the end of the year.
SerTapTap
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So are they basically throwing E3 in the garbage? I hope we at least get lots of Sun/Moon info.
I feel with Zelda there's got to be something major they can't show that's part of the NX version so I'm not too excited about that TBH. I won't be getting the wii u version in all likeliness.
I feel with Zelda there's got to be something major they can't show that's part of the NX version so I'm not too excited about that TBH. I won't be getting the wii u version in all likeliness.
DrROBschiz
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Well at least I can put it out of my mind
Focus on PS4 Neo and put more time into my backlog
Zombie James
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No E3 presence for a new console coming out in less than a year is very weird.
This seems plausible and would be a win/win considering that'd give more opportunity to potentially flesh out software. It's why I still think a 2017 date is for the best in spite of the baffling news of no NX at E3.
Nintendo has to announce some kind of equivalent or justifiable reason for this. Back in 2014 when Nintendo announced the "Digital Event" in favor of a press conference it was appended with a slew of news about a Smash tournament, Treehouse streams, the whole shebang. This on the other hand is a tepid admission for what, right now, is their largest boon. If they have some kind of master plan in the works they need to tip their hand soon.
biglittleps
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If its their own event then only people who are intreated in Nintendo games only will watch mostly and the rest dont care, but if its E3 then mostly many (who are not interested in Nintendo also might watch, because its multiple days event with many announcements) will be watching and might be able to reach wider audience by doing some game announcements during 3rd party publishers conference. They cant benefit from a event like Sony and MS for hardware announcements, especially for home consoles anymore due to their past failures and no 3rd party support they restricted them to be Nintendo games only machine.
Huh, makes sense to me.
Nintendo are a company that are secretive and tends to at least learn something, even if it's not always the right thing, from their mistakes.
1. The Wii had a lackluster final year with no momentum carried over to Wii U.
Nintendo will make sure that the last memories their core fans have of the Wii U are of Zelda U. The Wii U will not be allowed to go out with a whimper, they want all the fans to jump ship to NX feeling good about having owned one.
2. Overextending yourself on multiple platforms leads to trouble.
Nintendo is debuting their mobile arm. This will have their full attention. Only when it's running smoothly will they focus on NX. Projects already underway for 3DS and Wii U will be completed.
3. Revealing ideas early means everyone has it. Keeping it secret means we get a head start.
They think they have a really good idea for NX, and want to make sure that the competiion is feature complete before telling anyone who isn't under an NDA anything about it.
So really, I didn't expect to hear anything about NX this year to begin with. We'll get the token "NX is still under development, we will have something to show at a later date, please understand." line, followed by "Now who's ready for Zelda U for 15 minutes straight? Available TOMORROW worldwide!" Well, maybe not the last part, but they're going to give it the full demonstration and Treehouse showing, like Smash Bros did.
Nintendo are a company that are secretive and tends to at least learn something, even if it's not always the right thing, from their mistakes.
1. The Wii had a lackluster final year with no momentum carried over to Wii U.
Nintendo will make sure that the last memories their core fans have of the Wii U are of Zelda U. The Wii U will not be allowed to go out with a whimper, they want all the fans to jump ship to NX feeling good about having owned one.
2. Overextending yourself on multiple platforms leads to trouble.
Nintendo is debuting their mobile arm. This will have their full attention. Only when it's running smoothly will they focus on NX. Projects already underway for 3DS and Wii U will be completed.
3. Revealing ideas early means everyone has it. Keeping it secret means we get a head start.
They think they have a really good idea for NX, and want to make sure that the competiion is feature complete before telling anyone who isn't under an NDA anything about it.
So really, I didn't expect to hear anything about NX this year to begin with. We'll get the token "NX is still under development, we will have something to show at a later date, please understand." line, followed by "Now who's ready for Zelda U for 15 minutes straight? Available TOMORROW worldwide!" Well, maybe not the last part, but they're going to give it the full demonstration and Treehouse showing, like Smash Bros did.
PhazonBlazer
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It's obviously because the controller was leaked
#TeamReal
#TeamReal
SinCityAssassin
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You got your history wrong. They had been doing the Digital Event since 2013.
This
I'd rather they took tier time and got it right the first time around instead of rushing and repeating mistakes. Suck that I won't have an NX this year and that we'll have to wait a little longer but we actually have a time frame to work with now and it's releasing globally within a year which is exciting. It is strange that the NX will launch without having an E3 presence prior to its release but they have to get their messaging across and in this age of the internet and streams nothing is stopping them from doing events on stage or otherwise at a later date.
I think this is bargaining? Oh well I would love to see that and it would make the E3 booth area make more sense.
Announce the 3DS successor at E3 and put in tech demos (so not "playable") and show off the hardware.
LordOcidax
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Wow, I wake up and this O_O... 2017 NX as expected, also Zelda delay (Take your time Nintendo). Btw... is amazing that maybe i have to sell my PS4 to buy another Sony console before Nintendo... is hilarious. I never expected a 2016 launch for NX, because it doesn't make sense... and it looks like that the console is going to have the new AMD architecture. Everything looks really good for Nintendo. And E3 focused on Zelda..... Zelda SW HD can happen.
Audioboxer
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To do that they'd have to at least acknowledge NX at E3.
hamauzu kaito
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This is absolutely absurd. However according to the few push messages I got this morning Japanese media seems to be spinning the news from yesterday positively. I will say that Nintendo is taking a huge gamble on mind share, right now the WII U is reminding all its buyers of their unreliability. Every time they walk past and see its dust collecting shell they will question the purchase - or at least I always do, and my parents as well (I convinced them to buy one for my little sibs). Letting that continue for another year is a bit dangerous IMHO.
I did get the date wrong but I was actually referring more specifically to 2014 since that's the year that mostly "vindicated" the approach of no press conference. When the E3 Direct was announced in 2013 there was a similar outcry to right now and the reception was much more mixed, but in 2014 that was offset in a much better fashion and confident display, alongside Treehouse streams being established.
SerTapTap
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The Zelda delay makes no sense if Zelda isn't on NX, and if Zelda is on NX it's basically useless for the "momentum carrier" status here.
Twilight Princess sold Wiis because people bought it for Wii, not because they bought it for Gamecube and had good memories.
Audioboxer
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No, release parity now in 2017.
Yes, but they can do that without showing any hardware for it. But maybe it would tell competitors something about the specs of the nx.
I hope that the nx version comes together with the U version.
Hate to see a U version and play 6months later the nx version.
Fuck id place a crazy outside bet that Shenmue sodding 3 and FFVII-R part 1 launch within six months of Zelda U at this point
InspectorSpaceman
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Doesn't this prohibition of info just further the possibility of people leaking information? Even if the "leaks" are fake, unless there is something totally official out there, some people will see something and form an opinion about it.
This is a VERY dangerous strategy, and I'm not sure the reward can outweigh the risk.
This is a VERY dangerous strategy, and I'm not sure the reward can outweigh the risk.
SinCityAssassin
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I'm being like, dicksplittingly optimistic here in saying maybe Pikmin 4 and Project Giant Robot will be announced down the line for the holiday.
Hashtag FE has yet to release in the west.
YuriLowell
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NX delay and zelda wiiu simu launch pretty much confirms in my mind the nx will have some kind of touchscreen controller like the gamepad. This is bollocks to me as i 100% want nintendo to dump this method of control. Cant seem them avoiding this interface for a game born on wiiu and then translated to NX. Unless...!
Demon Lizardman
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Well, this is the only reaction to this announcement I can make.
I love Nintendo. Look at my avatar, read my post history. I've never jumped on the Nintendoomed bandwagon, not for a second. Still not jumping on it.
That said, I can't help but think their business side is made of a bunch of crazy people. I honestly can't believe what I'm reading, they have no clue anymore about anything they're doing.
There will be terrible droughts once again, their home console has been dead in the water for a while and will stop production before the new one is even out. Zelda has been delayed yet another time after the ridiculous, doubled down, 2015 claim and after Aonuma took it upon himself to shorten the gap between main releases.
2016 line-up is all kinds of ridiculous, and they basically implied they won't announce any new game for the year, seeing as Zelda will be the only thing on the showfloor.
They decided not to show even a snippet of their new system fans are clamoring to hear about. Is it because the hardware and software isn't optimal yet? Well, I'm sorry Nintendo but what should I say if not "it's only your fault". They know their situation better than anyone else, but they still keep effing up release dates and basic expectations.
They're totally losing me at the moment, which of course isn't a big deal, but seeing as I'm very passionate and affectionate fan, my guess is that there are thousands like me or less invested as of now, if not more.
They're hemorraging goodwill.
I'm sorry if this goes too far into ovverreaction territory, but I've been with them since I was 3 years old, playing Super Mario Bros., I'm just costernated with their decisions. Hope everything will turn out well in the end.
That said, I can't help but think their business side is made of a bunch of crazy people. I honestly can't believe what I'm reading, they have no clue anymore about anything they're doing.
There will be terrible droughts once again, their home console has been dead in the water for a while and will stop production before the new one is even out. Zelda has been delayed yet another time after the ridiculous, doubled down, 2015 claim and after Aonuma took it upon himself to shorten the gap between main releases.
2016 line-up is all kinds of ridiculous, and they basically implied they won't announce any new game for the year, seeing as Zelda will be the only thing on the showfloor.
They decided not to show even a snippet of their new system fans are clamoring to hear about. Is it because the hardware and software isn't optimal yet? Well, I'm sorry Nintendo but what should I say if not "it's only your fault". They know their situation better than anyone else, but they still keep effing up release dates and basic expectations.
They're totally losing me at the moment, which of course isn't a big deal, but seeing as I'm very passionate and affectionate fan, my guess is that there are thousands like me or less invested as of now, if not more.
They're hemorraging goodwill.
I'm sorry if this goes too far into ovverreaction territory, but I've been with them since I was 3 years old, playing Super Mario Bros., I'm just costernated with their decisions. Hope everything will turn out well in the end.
The Real Napsta
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What do you mean another?
Neuromancer
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I love having nothing to look forward to for a year. Thanks, Nintendo.
bryanee
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Nah, they'll want Zelda out on both consoles at the same time.
wild wild rice
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I thought they'd push Paper Mario to NX too, who knows now.
Audioboxer
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Yeah, that's what I've been saying. To do this though they have to at least dip their foot in though, and not just show a Zelda demo running on "undisclosed hardware".
From this annoucnement of NX "not being at E3", this pretty much makes it impossible to show a Zelda NX demo without them looking like idiots.
It's just weird that they have nothing to push for the holiday season (pending some kind of announcement at least).
Fox Mulder
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Likely, but awful. The wiiu has sold like shit and there's been awful droughts broken up by mediocre games.
The Xbox and ps4 are going to come out with upgrades while the NX sits in the shadows until 2017. Have fun sliding into that pit of irrelevance Nintendo.
SerTapTap
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I don't get the "at least Wii U will last another year" comments. Platform support isn't dropped exactly at new hardware's release date. Wii and 360 first party support died about a year BEFORE the next console came out, PS2 got freaking God of War 2 AFTER PS3 was out.
The Wii U is basically already dead and getting the trickle of products that were already in development that tend to come out after a successor happens. NX's exact release date doesn't change that it's basically Starfox, Color Splash, Fire emblem thing and a cross gen zelda to send off the Wii U.
The Wii U is basically already dead and getting the trickle of products that were already in development that tend to come out after a successor happens. NX's exact release date doesn't change that it's basically Starfox, Color Splash, Fire emblem thing and a cross gen zelda to send off the Wii U.
Audioboxer
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Reggie resigns from NoA and joins Sony/MS/Zynga.
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