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Nintendo @ E3 - No Direct, Just Zelda Treehouse Stream

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Maebe

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I get they want to have a launch with a good line-up ready so they will delay things. But to not even show some trailers at E3, either? That's too far. If Zelda isn't the most incredible thing ever they will get lambasted. Or worse, mostly ignored and overshadowed. Why even bother going at all if they don't care to bring more than one thing? Man it sucks cause I'm interested in zelda but these bad decisions are killing excitement so hard.
 

m.i.s.

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Everything points towards a mobile centric ecosystem that's about lowering the barrier of entry with low cost hardware and games adopting different kinds of business models. There will be your Zelda and Monster Hunter too, don't worry.

I don't think NX has a new gimmick related to the way you interact with the system, instead the focus will revolve around the word social and sharing, as in, sharing your experience with others either by directly playing with/against them, uploading a MK8 video to youtube that captured a cool sequence, sharing a funny moment in Tomodachi Life, or let others enjoy your creations in games with level editors (which are common nowadays; Mario Maker, Pushmo World, Tipping Stars)

In terms of external software support, Nintendo just received a port of Minecraft and they are rumored to be the first system to see a port of Undertale, these are two examples of games that appeal to Nintendo's existing userbase. If you spend time browsing Miiverse you should be aware of that. Basically family-friendly games like Scribblenauts are a good fit for Nintendo's ecosystem.

This is what they should have done post wii instead of straddling the core / casual markets as they attempted to do with Wii U -- and failing.
 
I get they want to have a launch with a good line-up ready so they will delay things. But to not even show some trailers at E3, either? That's too far.

NX will have like three months on the market before next year's E3. Unless they show just what's coming to NX in the first three months, and unless that lineup is good enough to fill an E3, we're going to see most of the same shit two years in a row.

That wouldn't be good for perception of NX's longterm roadmap, especially if Nintendo wants to shake this idea that they only have one big cycle of games each generation. At least right now people's anticipation is still getting pent-up and their speculation is out of control.
 
I am finding it hard to even get any excitement for zelda at this point.
Go to this thread, it's better. :p http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1215123


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Boke1879

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With NX already said to be in 2017 and no news about it at E3, nintendo would've gotten no mind share regardless of what remaining Wii U and 3DS titles they would have shown. I would've LOVED if they showed some kind of direct, but you gotta be delusional thinking that they could've attracted any major attention with a regular direct compared to the ps4k, xb1.5, ps vr, etc being shown.

Exactly. Nintendo is late to the party. They aren't going to increase mindshare or take away any audience. It's clear they are doing their own thing.

But even them doing their own thing imo is being detrimental. I really wish Nintendo fans would would them accountable. Sure the system had some great games but the output and spacing between those games in unacceptable and I don't see how anyone could be happy with that.

Right now Nintendo needs to be teasing and hyping up NX and assuring their fanbase they have learned from the mistakes of the Wii U. How they've been acting so far doesn't lead any credence to that.
 

jdstorm

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One major release for Wii U isn't smart, in fact it could potentially put off potential customers of their next console. The software droughts have been a disgrace and nothing was learnt from previous generations which had the likes of Iwata apologising for not only Wii but 3DS and GameCube. It's not good enough.

More then likely they are Hoarding software for the NX. If they could get away with it Nintendo wouldn't even be showing Zelda
 

Rodin

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Another episode of "nintendo fading into irrelevancy" saga.
Why are you doing this to yourself? Lol

We are all disappointed for one reason or another but i don't stuff like this is worth anyone's rage.

I am finding it hard to even get any excitement for zelda at this point.
You can't be excited about the only thing they will show because they won't show the other, minor things they have. That makes complete sense.

I wouldn't worry about a drought until at least a few years into the life of NX or whenever they decide to abandon it.

Maybe you don't know that but a couple of the key points we know about the NX (forward compatible architecture and shared library between consoles that will be "as brothers") are about keeping this situation from happening ever again.
 

Boke1879

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More then likely they are Hoarding software for the NX. If they could get away with it Nintendo wouldn't even be showing Zelda

Well we'll see if they are hoarding software. But people shouldn't assume that and if they are it's most likely only first party stuff and even then that doesn't address the drought concerns. For Nintendo's sake and their fans I hope they have 3rd party support but I fear they'll have another Wii U situation where the 3rd parties will throw them a bone and then leave when they see the sales aren't there.
 

Delio

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Rösti;202734197 said:
Which stage are you on?

Honestly just in the whatever stage. No use getting upset about this when honestly it's not some life or death thing for me. Just means one less thing to watch at E3.
 

m.i.s.

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More then likely they are Hoarding software for the NX. If they could get away with it Nintendo wouldn't even be showing Zelda

People were saying the same about Wii in it's twilight years. No Wii games post-2010 because they were working on Wii U titles.
 

Teletraan1

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Maybe you don't know that but a couple of the key points we know about the NX (forward compatible architecture and shared library between consoles that will be "as brothers") are about keeping this situation from happening ever again.

When any of their plans ever come to fruition and we don't get a drought then we can all celebrate. They have promised to not have droughts for the last few generations and they always happen for some reason or another. Enough talk. Results please.
 

mantidor

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People were saying the same about Wii in it's twilight years. No Wii games post-2010 because they were working on Wii U titles.

But this time it was literally confirmed by Kimishima, back then it was just speculation, and they still had more content for E3 anyway.
 

jdstorm

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Well we'll see if they are hoarding software. But people shouldn't assume that and if they are it's most likely only first party stuff and even then that doesn't address the drought concerns. For Nintendo's sake and their fans I hope they have 3rd party support but I fear they'll have another Wii U situation where the 3rd parties will throw them a bone and then leave when they see the sales aren't there.

Literally nothing we know about the NX currently makes that seem likely. Although I agree about Nintendo needing 3rd parties. If the WiiU had the same install base as the 3DS it would have received exceptional 3rd party support. No 3rd party is turning their nose up at a 50M install base. The Wii Us biggest competitor was always the 3DS and Nintendo has Alledgedly found a way to fix this.
 
E3 isnt that important at all. Nintendo doesnt need it lol.

They can make a NX event later that year and have all the news reportings for themselves.
 

Balb

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E3 isnt that important at all. Nintendo doesnt need it lol.

They can make a NX event later that year and have all the news reportings for themselves.

Why isn't it important though? The expo draws a lot of eyeballs from both the enthusiast and mainstream press. I don't see why Nintendo isn't using their large show floor real estate to draw some excitement toward the NX or at least the Nintendo brand in general.
 

Ansatz

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People were saying the same about Wii in it's twilight years. No Wii games post-2010 because they were working on Wii U titles.

That's because they made 3DS games in between, hence why the shared library concept has to materialize in order to ensure a steady stream of games from day 1.
 

jerry5278

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Why isn't it important though? The expo draws a lot of eyeballs from both the enthusiast and mainstream press. I don't see why Nintendo isn't using their large show floor real estate to draw some excitement toward the NX or at least the Nintendo brand in general.
It's true that e3 draws a lot of eyes to it, but there are several game trade shows throughout the year, which are starting to get bigger. Gamescom is a good example. E3 is not the be all, end all show it used to be. Add in the fact that nintendo gives us info throughout the year via nintendo direct, and it's clear that they really don't depend on e3 all that much
 
That they are launching late and skipping 2016 because they don't want droughts, so basically they are indeed hoarding games for the NX.

They better be. But at this point I would not be surprised if the NX game launch is underwhelming, and a bunch of launch titles get pushed back to "launch window" which extends to almost a year after the console's launch.

NINTENDO HAS MADE ME A PESSIMIST
 
wait so you can PLAY the new Zelda game that's been years in the making but there WON'T be a trailer of the 3ds port of a dragon quest game that came out decades ago?! wow, rip nintendo.
 
How is straight up gameplay with constant analysis instead of a Direct trailer bad?

You guys are just looking to dramatize something.
 

Balb

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It's true that e3 draws a lot of eyes to it, but there are several game trade shows throughout the year, which are starting to get bigger. Gamescom is a good example. E3 is not the be all, end all show it used to be. Add in the fact that nintendo gives us info throughout the year via nintendo direct, and it's clear that they really don't depend on e3 all that much

It's still the biggest show, and historically Nintendo doesn't have much of a presence at the other shows you've mentioned.

I just want to know why Nintendo thinks they're in a position to turn down great opportunities like E3.
 

FyreWulff

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It's still the biggest show, and historically Nintendo doesn't have much of a presence at the other shows you've mentioned.

I just want to know why Nintendo thinks they're in a position to turn down great opportunities like E3.

But.. they're at E3.
 

Not

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Since Zelda was a given, this is like literally the worst thing that could've happened at this year's E3. Like, the worst case scenario beyond anyone's nightmares. And apparently the top brass at Nintendo is all like, "I feel like this is a great direction to go this year"
 

Ridley327

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wait so you can PLAY the new Zelda game that's been years in the making but there WON'T be a trailer of the 3ds port of a dragon quest game that came out decades ago?! wow, rip nintendo.

First, it's a full-on remake, and second, you can't really blame Nintendo for that game taking 3+ years to come over, particularly since it's not their game.
 

Not

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Nintendo has never, ever had an E3 presence where all they have to show is one fucking game. This is unprecedented ludicrousness beyond measure.

The Wii U absolutely fuckin' broke Nintendo.
 

Pancake Mix

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First, it's a full-on remake, and second, you can't really blame Nintendo for that game taking 3+ years to come over, particularly since it's not their game.

Pretty much, you can only thank Nintendo for making sure it came over at all. Hopefully there's a direct in May or June though that gives a release date on that and VIII (though that is early 2017 now I'm guessing.)
 

Ridley327

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Pretty much, you can only thank Nintendo for making sure it came over at all. Hopefully there's a direct in May or June though that gives a release date on that and VIII (though that is early 2017 now I'm guessing.)

Yeah, I'm expecting that DQ8 got bumped to February, since that's been a really good slot for them when it comes to 3DS RPGs.
 
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