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Batman: Return to Arkham announced (AA AC Demaster), UE4, Virtuos (of FFX fame)

Piichan

Banned
I never played the originals, so I was interested in this, but looking at the comparisons, the last gen versions seem to look better. Not sure what to do...
 

Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
Played through the trilogy prior to knight last year and actually felt all three held up well.

City had some quirks with story plotting and went a bit overboard with the collectibles, but it was a good time. I think I preferred asylum and origins more.

Asylum is still just a great package all around, while origins struggled with certain game design changes, but I really bought into its story.

All three still look astounding even on PS3.
 
More screenies courtesy of gearnuke..the rest of these dont appear to be such of an outright downgrade as the Hugo Strange screenie, but the Joker pic looks kinda off in the remaster too, less detail in the hair.

Remaster

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The lighting on the "remaster" looks way toned down compared to the original, and also the blacks are being crushed. It almost looks like they are trying to hide the downgraded textures.

Does the remaster at least support the mode to switch to the original graphics?
 

Rudiano

Banned
At first glance it looks like a PC port, did anyone really think it was a "Remaster" when they first saw the trailer?
 

SJRB

Gold Member
These comparisons are just... what the fuck.


I'm fairly upset right now, how could they screw this up so badly?
 
Botching characters' faces in HD remasters is way too common at this point. FFX/X-2, the Uncharted collection, and now this. Even Mr Freeze's suit has extra shit all over it for no reason. Surely the job description for remastering a game is to preserve the original game as best you can and simply increase the resolution and framerate. You don't see film restoration studios screwing with someone else's movie.
 

icespide

Banned
Botching characters' faces in HD remasters is way too common at this point. FFX/X-2, the Uncharted collection, and now this. Even Mr Freeze's suit has extra shit all over it for no reason. Surely the job description for remastering a game is to preserve the original game as best you can and simply increase the resolution and framerate. You don't see film restoration studios screwing with someone else's movie.

what was wrong with faces in uncharted?
 

Persona7

Banned
Ah, perfect. I've yet to play the original games. The latest one looks pretty amazing too so maybe I will get that one too.
 
what was wrong with faces in uncharted?

Botched is probably too strong a word, but they can look pretty janky. Bluepoint updated them to a fidelity that doesn't really match the rest of the games, and the new models overlaid onto Naughty Dog's original animations sometimes don't line up all that well. Weird stuff with eyelids and shadows:


Uncharted 2 Elena also has a full face of makeup, for some reason.
 

Alienfan

Member
Botched is probably too strong a word, but they can look pretty janky. Bluepoint updated them to a fidelity that doesn't really match the rest of the games, and the new models overlaid onto Naughty Dog's original animations sometimes don't line up all that well. Weird stuff with eyelids and shadows:



Uncharted 2 Elena also has a full face of makeup, for some reason.

That looks like an improvement to me
 

Alienfan

Member
I don't understand some of these screens. Aren't they all taken from pre-rendered cutscenes? If so, it's bizarre that there's such a downgrade in texture quality - although that Mr Freeze screen looks great
 

Moodz

Member
I can't believe they fucked this up so bad. Like really, I don't believe it for now...
It must be marketing using bad material.

I never played Arkham Asylum and was so happy with this announcement.
 

Ivan 3414

Member
As others have said, no Origins no buy.

Edit: Based on those screens, definitely a good decision. Plus if it's still 30fps...a damn shame.
 

Shig

Strap on your hooker ...
Remember last gen when a bunch of previous-gen ports were adding a stereoscopic 3D mode as an added selling point?

Now we gettin' games that had 3D modes in their original release, but remove 'em in their 'enhanced ports'...
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Remember last gen when a bunch of previous-gen ports were adding a stereoscopic 3D mode as an added selling point?

Now we gettin' games that had 3D modes in their original release, but remove 'em in their 'enhanced ports'...

Cause it was just a gimmick pushed by other companies. SCE even said most of the 3D implementations in their games were just to sell 3D tvs for their other departments

I can't believe they fucked this up so bad. Like really, I don't believe it for now...
It must be marketing using bad material.

I never played Arkham Asylum and was so happy with this announcement.

Besides a few models that look polarizing from the original, i still don't see much of the issue people are raising about how much of a problem the port is. Especially comparing it to Silent Hill HD and the like before it ever has come out.
 

Spinky

Member
NO ORIGINS, NO BUY!

Loljk Origins was shit.

EDIT: Wow, I just went through almost this entire thread and am I in a parallel universe? Where the hell did all this Origins love come from? Never seen this anywhere else and as far as I'm concerned it is a PAINFULLY mediocre game.
 

MilkyJoe

Member
More screenshots

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I'm seeing the improvement, maybe some of the others are just bad grabs?
 
More screenshots

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I'm seeing the improvement, maybe some of the others are just bad grabs?

These screen caps look way better than the other ones, but these are all of the prerendered cutscenes right? So we still don't know what the actual game look like in motion instead of baked in video files.
 
These screen caps look way better than the other ones, but these are all of the prerendered cutscenes right? So we still don't know what the actual game look like in motion instead of baked in video files.

I know that first one with Batman grabbing Joker by the throat is in game not a cutscene.
 

KingBroly

Banned
How come Origins got such a relatively poor critical reception but now it's beloved?

Glitchy as hell, for one

The story's better

It re-uses Arkham Knight's map


Also, can someone make a Game of the Year edition for this box? I feel like it's necessary.
 
How come Origins got such a relatively poor critical reception but now it's beloved?

Beloved is a bit strong. More like us people that liked it being a bit more vocal. It did feel like it was being judged more harshly as it was perceived as a cash in by WB as we waited for Rocksteady to finish their game, and I guess that's exactly what it was, but I think WB Montreal still did a pretty damn good job.
 
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