I will if it means I don't have to purchase another Xbox console. I think MS will eventually get the store to a better place.
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Kotaku UK Rumor: Xbox One, Windows 10, Halo 5, & Minecraft notably below expectations
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They haven't exactly done anything new with the IP either - so if they become really desperate, they probably wouldn't have to do much more than release a minecraft 2 and a movie (with new merchandise).
Warzone and REQs are the focus so would not be surprised there is token support.
Holy fuck hahahahahahaaha
VincentMatts
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I think people are painting a much worse picture than it actually is considering reqs alone sold for a lot of $.
To the point where they are tricking people to installing it
I mean they did release minecraft story mode that seemingly did well and they already have a movie in development
they did Minecraft The Story
VincentMatts
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Tricking i think is pushing it. Dont software updates automatically update after a certain point if you dont do them?
Sure that's some nice clickbait but I don't see how that's "ripping" on MS.
Bitch Pudding
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That's not an accomplishment. Making it even worse, that'd be a feat.
When I heard MS would bring their IPs to PC I was happy as well, but I haven't seen a game yet which makes me really want to switch.
Switch from Linux?
Triggerhappytel
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Yes that's an inflammatory headline, but to be fair, they've just shut down Lionhead, and I don't personally see Rare being in an especially different position right now. Been a long, long time since they've had a hit game, so I expect for the studio's future everything rests on the performance of Sea of Thieves.
blue_phazon
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Not really.
Streaming in general is a different beast and doesn't tell much about how popular a game is. No exclusive game will consistently be at the top of the directory.
First and foremost PC games will always be at the top because they have worldwide appeal and are the most popular.
Then there's noncompetitve games like Destiny that are highly watchable because theres a loot/grind aspect, and it's highly "community based". The streamers that stream these kinds of games are usually watched due to their personalities and not so much because they are pro players.
When it comes to Halo, people only want to watch the Pros.
And considering ALL of the above, Halo actually did quite well, with the HCS finale hitting 100k viewers.
But again, twitch doesn't say much about popularity. Otherwise, GTA should be way higher on the directory.
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
i'm not surprised
xbox one has few exclusives and halo is quite dead
xbox one has few exclusives and halo is quite dead
Freeman
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Easiest thing in the world would be to make the windows store relevant, I don't know how they mess it up, they overthink and complicate things.
I like W10 because I can disable most of the things I dislike about it, I uninstall every possible app and unnecessary things that come with it and I end up with something that feels a lot like a modern version of Windows 7. I have to use Linux for other things and I'm always trying to switch completely from Windows but Linux always falls short or has some inconvincente that windows doesn't have..
About Xbox, I'm surprised by how much it was able to sell in direct competition with the PS4, decent sales for second place.
I like W10 because I can disable most of the things I dislike about it, I uninstall every possible app and unnecessary things that come with it and I end up with something that feels a lot like a modern version of Windows 7. I have to use Linux for other things and I'm always trying to switch completely from Windows but Linux always falls short or has some inconvincente that windows doesn't have..
About Xbox, I'm surprised by how much it was able to sell in direct competition with the PS4, decent sales for second place.
This is becoming a problem in general, the adoption of mobile game practices. The timed gates on some mechanics, pay to advance/win, and micro-transactions are all influenced by mobile gaming. This is a bad thing to bleed into console/PC gaming.
MicroCuts7
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I laughed pretty heartily.
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Halo 5 is a great game. It's easily provided me more than 200 hours of gametime. Don't play campaigns at less than heroic difficulty and get good in MP. I'm level 98 in MP and it's the best feeling MP shooter this gen. It's arena though, not COD chopper killstreaks so this new generation doesn't like it as much as old school players who love the equal starts and power weapon control.
RichiRamjag
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It isn't dead, however, some better decisions do need to be made going forward with the franchise. A lot of issues could be fixed now.
I don't think the argument here is that halo 5 is bad. It just didn't sell as expected.
KinofChaos
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No one is debating the games merits.
bitbydeath
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It took 3 months for Halo 5 to pass the million mark. That is awful for Halo standards.
http://m.au.ign.com/articles/2016/0...ultimate-edition-forza-6-sales-pass-1-million
For comparison Halo 3 had 4.2M sold to retailers at day 1.
http://web.archive.org/web/20130913...analyst-42m-halo-3s-already-at-retail-6179772
doesnt this just show how much they fucked up the campaign. i admit the mp is amazing so is the gameplay but campaigns a big fat mess. dont get me wrong its not shareware level like killzone or resistance or other lookalikes but its bad for a halo mainline game
its just short and the story is barely advancing. its basically chase master chief until youre about 90% finished and thats when it gets juicy. reminds me of halo 2 in a lot of ways.
That is not an indication of when Halo 5 sold a million copies.
DryvBy
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I think this is all about how businesses look at things. To them, a loss doesn't mean you're not even making a profit. It can mean you're not hitting projected/predicted numbers.
Business is stupid lol.
Halo 5 did over 1M in the first few days at best.
That link says over 1M, at that point Halo 5 was probably nearer 3M or so.
That's really not what the article says, though.
It says :
http://news.xbox.com/2016/01/04/greatest-games-extends-to-2016/#Ocksv1IzTtLk3CP3.99
Banjo-Kazooie
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Only thing this thread truly taught me is how people don't understand accounting and what it takes for Minecraft to break even lol
Another classic case of "let me google something I don't know about and present it without doing any research"
SpartanN92
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It's a collaborative team effort but the lead writer is a guy named Brian Reed whose previous works include Spider Man comics... You read that right... Spider Man comics...
So are we really surprised that Halo 5's story was basically incoherent?
I really want to know who wrote Hunt The Truth... That was magnificent. If the game delivered what HtT suggested then it would have been GOAT
Captain Zyrain
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Pretty sure it was the people over at the Ayzenberg Group who handled #HUNTtheTRUTH (http://www.ayzenberg.com/)
It was awesome, amazing, and I hope we see more. They won a ton of marketing awards for it as well (very deserving).
Their E32015 intro for Microsoft is still awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTx9-ohAeWo
This is nonsense.
Risk Breaker
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Have they done much, if any, with the IP since they bought Mojang for $2.5bn?
ethomaz
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That tweet was so fun.
Well this perception is not about her because everybody on forums that remember old Rare says the same... what happened with Rare?
You need to blame MS and Rare for that... they are killing the company.
its completely baffling how the guy is still lead writer. i mean you have joe fucking staten at MS go and get him to help ffs
SpartanN92
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Hunt the Truth is one of my favorite pieces of Halo content ever. It was magnificent in every way.
I'm disappointed that in my opinion Halo 5 didn't reach its potential but oh well... I am very excited for Halo Wars 2 especially after seeing that it is on the Ark.
Welfare
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It sold 1.3m in one week in the US (Physical+Digital).
If there's any disappointment with Minecraft, it would likely be due to total revenue, not game sales. I'm constantly amazed at how well the game sells. But 2 1/2 billion dollars is a bunch of money, and they may have had unrealistic expectations about the brand outside of games.
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Merchandising surely does its share as well. They also recently launched on WiiU with Mario content which is cool. Minecraft VR "should" be amazing and great future revenue but that's going to depend on vr adoption.
bitbydeath
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Considering they used the word 'over' means it would have been between 1M and 1.5M at that point. Anything more they would have stated so.
It did under 1M in its first NPD month.
It says sold over 1M during holidays, it also arrived during holidays.
Any links for that?
You know who the info came from right?
Banjo-Kazooie
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Bring it to WiiU? PSVita? Bring it to Oculus VR? Bring it to Hololens? Their own Windows store? Keep updating it? Making new mini-games for it currently? Sell 50mil copies?
Nah not really
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I mean, Stinkles just checked you on that. I'd say maybe don't double down?
He litterally has the receipts.
As of Match this year W10 was at ~13% of the desktop OS market
http://m.gsmarena.com/windows_10_is_close_to_nabbing_13_of_the_desktop_os_market-blog-17001.php
The main issue, as this article alludes to, is that by March the pace of those updating was starting to slow, and IIRC it has continued to do so (am on mobile so can't find the relevant Register article on the subject), but people are sticking with W7 the way they stuck with XP.
This presents several issues for MS. W10 is completely integrated into Azure/Sky Drive, Office365 and around the whole SaaS concept.
Given that this is the central plank of their consumer AND business strategies for the next decade, W10 underperforming is a bigger issue than just IS marketshare - it's s product designed to wrap MS cloud services around customers the way the Apple ecosystem works. If they debt get people over that threshold they have a problem.
http://m.gsmarena.com/windows_10_is_close_to_nabbing_13_of_the_desktop_os_market-blog-17001.php
The main issue, as this article alludes to, is that by March the pace of those updating was starting to slow, and IIRC it has continued to do so (am on mobile so can't find the relevant Register article on the subject), but people are sticking with W7 the way they stuck with XP.
This presents several issues for MS. W10 is completely integrated into Azure/Sky Drive, Office365 and around the whole SaaS concept.
Given that this is the central plank of their consumer AND business strategies for the next decade, W10 underperforming is a bigger issue than just IS marketshare - it's s product designed to wrap MS cloud services around customers the way the Apple ecosystem works. If they debt get people over that threshold they have a problem.
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Sea of Thieves was such an odd choice to greenlight for Rares return to the AAA game. It's so damn risky. Definitely not up my alley but ill reserve judgement until I see more.
bitbydeath
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Yea, I was still writing responses before I saw that. Ok will have to take his word for it.
Wow you're doubling down on that.
Good luck lol.
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