Gormless Noodle
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FF13 didn't demonstrate that at all, that was a choice not a hardware limitation. What a ridiculous statement.
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Breath of the Wild is the official subtitle for Zelda U/NX, first gameplay trailer
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FF13 didn't demonstrate that at all, that was a choice not a hardware limitation. What a ridiculous statement.
BrokenFiction
Member
Miyamoto!
Always-honest
Banned
Well even wandering around there is a lot to do.
And then there are the dungeons and story.
The environment is very interactive.
Kissenkopf
Banned
I know what I will do in that game...I will go on top of that mountain!
Edit: somethings not workimg here...no pic
Edit: somethings not workimg here...no pic
Astral Dog
Member
wow no partner, thats exciting news!
thelastword
Banned
Of course, they are already invested, they should finish, but I have been waiting on a Zelda that would melt eyes for the longest while. These guys are amazingly talented with their art, the worlds they create, ambient sound etc..but they need something more to take it to the next level. Zelda has to meet with high rez textured environments, highly detailed char models, high resolution shader work and effects, the rest is already good, their animation is sublime, but I really can't shake off two generations of underwhelming hardware from Nintendo and possibly a third.
The last Zelda game I was really stoked for was this.
but we never quite got that level of quality, and that was a long time ago.
To be honest I don't think this looks so much better than Windwaker, I expected much more strides beyond that, even if the artstyle is similar/close.....
Ah, didn't see it.
Hyperactivity
Banned
So, given that the master sword is in the game, is anyone else thinking that near the end of the game we get the master sword, green tunic, hat, etc.
I imagine we could still use other weapons, I'm really digging the spears
I imagine we could still use other weapons, I'm really digging the spears
MoogleWizard
Member
I'm tired of open world games but fuck this looks amazing. I love, love, love this trailer.
Are we sure there aren't towns? In the IGN Interview they state there are villages at least:
Aonuma said:
MrSaturn99
Member
No towns, eh?
They're really committed to this "breaking convention" direction.
Edit: Oh, derp. There *are* towns? or villages?
OH MAN THE SAME MOUNTAIN AS IN THE NES LOZ ART????
They're really committed to this "breaking convention" direction.
Edit: Oh, derp. There *are* towns? or villages?
OH MAN THE SAME MOUNTAIN AS IN THE NES LOZ ART????
burntchomsky
Member
Could someone link me to this hour of gameplay footage? Not sure where to find that...
Regarding the no towns thing, how can you make a snap judgment about that without seeing it in action? It all comes down to the theme and tone of the game, as well as how those fit with gameplay. It could be that the lack of towns adds exponentially to all of those, and fits perfectly into the game. Of course, the opposite could also be true. There's no way to know without actually playing the game and experiencing it yourself.
Regarding the no towns thing, how can you make a snap judgment about that without seeing it in action? It all comes down to the theme and tone of the game, as well as how those fit with gameplay. It could be that the lack of towns adds exponentially to all of those, and fits perfectly into the game. Of course, the opposite could also be true. There's no way to know without actually playing the game and experiencing it yourself.
Always-honest
Banned
I feel somehow that the no towns thingy is a misunderstanding.
But could be. What was there in Zelda 1 and 2?
But could be. What was there in Zelda 1 and 2?
AltogetherAndrews
Member
Dazzling
Dorsal Axe
Member
Jonneh3003
Banned
Yeah this thread should be locked, it's sharing incorrect information. Also the game isn't about populated settings, it's a survival game in the wild.
Edit: woops I'm in the wrong thread
malboroking
Banned
Thatsthejoke.jpg
Yep.
In an IGN interview from today Aonuma said
I can't share too much about villages because to tell you how the villages work, they're interconnected to the story and overall world.
so there are towns
ArchedThunder
Banned
Glad there actually are villages.
I don't feel like the world is barren, it looks like there are tons of things to find with exploration, this is what I want.
I don't feel like the world is barren, it looks like there are tons of things to find with exploration, this is what I want.
omg, is there a gif or a video link? would be super nice!
Joei
Member
There were no towns in 1, but 2 had a handful. 2 I think had the most of any Zelda to be honest. But those were towns with people, whereas OoT and onwards they kind of had regional towns with the regional species or whatever occupying it.
I've seen others noting this, but how do we know those symbols aren't denoting ruined abbeys or other once-occupied structures?The very first footage we saw of the game had Link standing near a settlement with a couple of buildings and some farmers. The Game Awards footage had him near a town. There's even a town icon on the map:
The very first footage we saw of the game had Link standing near a settlement with a couple of buildings and some farmers. The Game Awards footage had him near a town. There's even a town icon on the map:
Are those official legends? Those could be just houses. Certainly means there are structures though so at least the "handful of wandering NPC's" seems debunked.
MoogleWizard
Member
I just hope the open world won't affect the dungeons too much. ALBW dungeons were a bit too simple because of the open structure of the game. Hopefully they manage a better balance in this one. Zelda is a puzzle game at heart, the dungeons and puzzles are the most important part.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
That's amiibo addition
Wii U beyond a shadow of a doubt.
NX should be able to make things look even prettier and smoother.
To be fair, this is an open world game and visuals tend to get sacrificed to accomplish a real open world.
Last Prime
Member
Nice!!!
Exactly.
Honestly, it's like people just pluck new things to be annoyed about out of the air each time a game is announced.
So I'm torn on my feelings about this... I'm not sure I like the inclusion of more RPG elements to what is traditionally an action-adventure game in my eyes. Such as having weapon durability, items used for restoration (beyond the normal potions/other Zelda staples), quest markers, quest pop-ups on screen like "Follow the Sheikah Slate"... I feel like this Zelda is being molded into Nintendo's version of a Skyrim or a Witcher, and that leaves me really unsettled.
I really liked the minimalist UI and presentation of previous Zelda titles. Feels like that's being tossed away in favor of modernization.
I adore the aesthetic though, and the combat looks great. The voice acting is a very welcome addition... But the open-world elements kind of make me recoil, to be honest.
And it's a simple thing, but no more hearts from cutting grass? Now I have to go to my inventory to use health-regen items? Meh...
Additionally, are rupees still in the game? I haven't seen or heard any mention of them so far, though I admit I haven't been watching that consistently.
I really liked the minimalist UI and presentation of previous Zelda titles. Feels like that's being tossed away in favor of modernization.
I adore the aesthetic though, and the combat looks great. The voice acting is a very welcome addition... But the open-world elements kind of make me recoil, to be honest.
And it's a simple thing, but no more hearts from cutting grass? Now I have to go to my inventory to use health-regen items? Meh...
Additionally, are rupees still in the game? I haven't seen or heard any mention of them so far, though I admit I haven't been watching that consistently.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Aonuma said there are in fact towns.
I see a lot of conceptual appeal to what's going on, but the more that's shown the more concerns it raises. Wind Waker's approach to exploration allowed for a greater degree of randomness to the exploration, because the sea that filled the space between the islands could have all sorts of oddities pop up at any time, and then the islands themselves served as fixed landmarks that could be combed over. There was a very distinct loop where the player would see islands on the horizon and feel this draw towards them to discover what was there. I don't really get the same vibe from what's been shown here.
Additionally, many of the new mechanics simply have me wary. The magnet stuff feels reminiscent of the physics based stuff from Half-Life 2, which skirted by on how technically impressive it was at the time. But that stuff really has not aged well, with most of the puzzles feeling rudimentary, and combat encounters often breaking around these tools being abused. It doesn't help that powerful tools exist that aren't encumbered by the durability limits weapons have. The reusable bombs negated most of the open world encounters into almost nothing.
There are loads of collection/inventory mechanics, but what does it really build towards? Modern games that do indulge these concepts carry crafting systems, cooking systems, harsher survival elements, or multiplayer elements. As is, the loot elements here just seem too simplistic while still requiring needless management.
Not really picking up a real desire to wander around this open world either. The locations don't really feel like they have a history or story to tell, and the interactions with this element of nature Nintendo is trying to push just don't seem complex enough to be interesting for very long. There aren't enough pieces or types of AI interacting with one another to really create an environment that feels organic. If the enemy placements were less static or they had behaviors that moved beyond just sleeping around camp that'd go a long way, but this isn't that kind of game.
Additionally, many of the new mechanics simply have me wary. The magnet stuff feels reminiscent of the physics based stuff from Half-Life 2, which skirted by on how technically impressive it was at the time. But that stuff really has not aged well, with most of the puzzles feeling rudimentary, and combat encounters often breaking around these tools being abused. It doesn't help that powerful tools exist that aren't encumbered by the durability limits weapons have. The reusable bombs negated most of the open world encounters into almost nothing.
There are loads of collection/inventory mechanics, but what does it really build towards? Modern games that do indulge these concepts carry crafting systems, cooking systems, harsher survival elements, or multiplayer elements. As is, the loot elements here just seem too simplistic while still requiring needless management.
Not really picking up a real desire to wander around this open world either. The locations don't really feel like they have a history or story to tell, and the interactions with this element of nature Nintendo is trying to push just don't seem complex enough to be interesting for very long. There aren't enough pieces or types of AI interacting with one another to really create an environment that feels organic. If the enemy placements were less static or they had behaviors that moved beyond just sleeping around camp that'd go a long way, but this isn't that kind of game.
thelastword
Banned
Well hopefully they get rid of the shimmering at least, perhaps on the NX version.