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[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Again, I only mean the main series in its current form. A reboot is possible.

goodnight

 

[Justin Bailey]

They've been doing that since the Wii.

I'm thinking like a new flagship IP. A new franchise to sit alongside Mario and Zelda.

 

[Anth0ny]

Yeah now seems like a good time to just end Pokemon forever

cracking up at work lol

 

[kiuo]

This mirrors exactly my problem with the NX.

2 ways to solve it...it'll either strictly stay as a console or I get another NX for the portability aspect

 

[maxcriden]

Trying again:

If attached, maybe. But eurogamer mentioned them used for 2 player. That's so confusing. Why not just throw in a normal controller that stays with the dock?

Yeah, that was confusing to me to, but--

I think the main reason they detach is for home play. The 2-player thing doesn't make sense to me either, since most games need more buttons.

Oh... Hmm.. Wait now that might make sense. So there must be a normal controller with the dock for home use, and the detachable ones from the screen can be combined and used as a 2nd controller. Interesting indeed...

I hope games played on tv don't take a graphical hit because they're made for tablet size screens.

as you said, the detachable ones can be combined to make a controller. But I don't know if that will be the Player 2 controller or the primary one (i.e. it's unclear whether there's also a main NX console controller or if those combined detachable sides form the main NX controller), because--

I re-read the EG article and I don't see where it says the bit about 2 players or the detachable controller being for the second player. Where did it say that? All I see is:

we've heard the screen is bookended by two controller sections on either side, which can be attached or detached as required.

And in the DF article:

However, the handheld's side-mounted control areas are apparently detachable, becoming individual pads for two-player gameplay - as revealed in today's big Nintendo NX news story on this site.

I don't know about the "individual pads." That part is very confusing. Like you said, that particular quote does make it sound like each side of the NX portable would be its own controller. But unless the HH is huge those would each be tiny. So it seems like there's maybe a contradiction here or something confusing.

Can anyone clear this up for us?

The DF quote above seems to indicate each side of the detachable controller is its own controller? If true, that seems contradictory to many of our conclusions from the article(s) otherwise.

 

[Tom Penny]

It would probably be easier to just develope games for those mobile devices hundreds of millions of people have called phones and just count the countless money stacks..

 

[awilliams213]

The concept of a portable Zelda Breath of the Wild is mind blowing.

 

[God Dayumm]

Is that little thing going to be more powerful than the Wii U and run Zelda better? If so, I think I like it

 

[Nirolak]

Why is Tegra so frowned upon?

I got a Tegra2 tablet and that was utter SHIT. But my Shield has a K1 and that thing is quite beastly, the X1 surely can push much more than that.

And if they can somewhat further improve it with more Watts on console mode, it should offer more perfomance, right?

Well, it depends on if you're looking at it from a console gamer's perspective or handheld gamer's perspective, which is going to result in rather bipolar responses.

 

[Fox_Mulder]

Yeah, that was a huge success, especially compared to the 3DS.

If Vita had had the 3ds games library, it would have been a great success.

 

[jroc74]

I think they've accepted that they're completely redundant in the console market and decided instead to focus on what they're good at.

I agree that handhelds as a general market are not in great shape and don't have an obvious future, but that from where Nintendo is sitting, it still looks way more appealing to make a handheld than to immediately lay off 2000+ staff or make a device that loses billions of dollars.

I think another way to look at this is that Microsoft/Sony want Western core gamers, so they've made consolized PCs. Nintendo is targeting Japan, casual gamers, and younger audiences, so they've set their hopes on a consolized smartphone, while also going out and making smartphone games directly.

Worth posting this again. It all makes sense.

Well, it depends on if you're looking at it from a console gamer's perspective or handheld gamer's perspective, which is going to result in rather bipolar responses.

Yup. As I dont really care for handheld gaming I see more negatives but...Breath of the Wild....

 

[NinjaCoachZ]

Yeah, that.

Though out of curiosity, what are the remaining 3DS games? Not just ones waiting for localization, but games that are currently in development.

Off the top of my head...

Azure Striker Gunvolt 2
Dragon Quest XI
Mario Party: Star Rush
Metroid Federation Force
Monster Hunter Stories
Pokemon Sun and Moon
Ever Oasis

Not much. Hell I think Ever Oasis and DQXI are the only 3DS games set for 2017.

 

[2+2=5]

I think a solution like this one

is more realistic/wise/better than two completely untied controller parts.

 

[ghst]

absolutely nobody,NOBODY is forcing you to buy shit

people just want to play nintendo games. they're being forced to buy hardware they don't want or need to enable that.

it's a fairly depressing business model.

 

[thefro]

Totally agreed and this can be huge if you could play some big 3rd party games on it...

I think you will be able to.

 

[AwakenedCloud]

Question, would it be feasible for the dock to offer any type of integrated hardware boost? I know an additional GPU or CPU would probably be out of the question for the one that comes with the system, but could they embed additional RAM into it for better performance? Could they do what people theorized the PSVR external unit would do and add additional power down the road?

The handheld side sounds good, but sub XB1 quality on the TV end of things is a bit of a letdown, especially with newer boxes from the other 2 being less than a year away from the NX launch.

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

So we're going to see it at the Tokyo Game Show? (Sept 15-18)

believe in spaceworld

 

[casey_contra]

I hope some pics from the production line leak a la every iPhone.

 

[Pyrrhus]

Hmm. There's not enough information to evaluate whether this is bad or good. It's certainly disquieting.

 

[Enduin]

The problem with vents is they'd expose the internals of the handheld to dust, debris, water etc. Maybe this isn't really a big deal but I don't think Nintendo handhelds have ever done it..

If the vents are on the sides and the controllers are locked in tight and sealed it wouldn't be a huge problem.

 

[DrROBschiz]

It was on Wii U.

Kind of?

They ported the 3DS version and updated "most" of the texture work and upscaled the rest

Im talking a true next gen MH man. Get on board with me here

 

[maxcriden]

This mirrors exactly my problem with the NX.

2 ways to solve it...it'll either strictly stay as a console or I get another NX for the portability aspect

Does seem like a significant potential issue for some households. Hopefully there will be a HH-only model soon after launch to address it. I wonder if there will be one at launch.

 

[Rncewind]

This thread is hottake heaven right now

This direction makes the most sense for them right now if you think about it. I'm not quite sure how they plan to sell this thing (North America will ignore this thing while I can see Japan supporting it), but the concept itself sounds exciting to me. Having both Nintendo game lineups - console and handheld - on one system is fantastic.

One thing that scares me though is that they could design their games around portability instead of just making console games for a portable device. Less 3D Land, more Galaxy pls. Also, I hope the hardware won't be too Fisher Price toy-esque; give us a good screen that I want to play on and not like Wii U or 3DS where all is wishy washy to these HD-spoiled eyes

So yeah, exciting times if you haven't had your head in the sand for the past decade. Personally I'm interested in that thing but yeah, this will be a tough sell and they better bring it in September

The reason why they are bringing such a thing is because lack of ressources. So there are gonna be HH games on a stronger system, not in reserve, because its cheaper

 

[Cubas]

I'm a bit late to the party but I really liked it.

The idea of playing Pokémon on my TV or having an open-world Zelda in my pocket is amazing. Let's hope Nintendo play their cards right, because they might have a big success in their hands.

 

[Tobor]

Did Nintendo really worry that MS and Sony would copy this? Those two wont touch a new handheld probably ever again.

You're assuming MS and Sony are the competition.

If I was Nintendo, I'd be worried about mobile companies copying this.

 

[AmFreak]

Why are people dissapointed at Tegra? This is a handheld...

I doubt people are dissapointed by a Tegra X in a handheld.
They are dissapointed by a Tegra X in a console.

 

[clav]

No BC?

Wonder what Nintendo has plans for digital software owners.

Also I guess the Nvidia partnership means no more AMD and high prices.

 

[AmyS]

Yeah, the potential of an X2 in a portable system is incredible.

Even a Tegra X1 portable system is going to be a massive leap above PS Vita.

 

[Always-honest]

She followed up her "badass for portable gaming" comment by saying "I hope this comment from yesterday makes more sense now." Also said "now you can see why I said closer to XB1 to PS4, but that maaay be stretching it".

So yeah, hopefully people can stop saying she's a liar.

thanx

 

[Orayn]

How big could this thing possibly be?

Physically? I'm picturing it as a 6-7" tablet. Comparable to a Wii U GamePad with the controller parts attached, an Amazon Kindle without.

 

[Baleoce]

I think the really important thing is that this ends up still being *actually* portable and a comfy form factor. If it ends up being quite large, I question who it's aimed at.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Please be 5". 7" is too big!

Hi. I'm Ninja Scooter. Have we met?

 

[Muppet of a Man]

Haha. I was right from the start. And to be honest, this is the best fit for Nintendo. I want one.

 

[10k]

Why are people dissapointed at Tegra? This is a handheld...

People don't understand tech as much as they'd like to think.

And lol at the people laughing at ARM. Like the ISA really matters. Every Dev out there has an arm compiler and it's not a big deal.

A quad core A53 is my bet for the handheld.

 

[Bolivar687]

Memory Cards like the Vita. Aimed at the market that wants a device for their TV which they can take on the go, like the Nvidia Shield. Not competing with upcoming Sony/MS systems like the Wii U. Partnering with Nvidia on the GPU like PS3.

It's almost like they're taking cues from all the lowest selling devices and rolling it into one console.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

people just want to play nintendo games. they're being forced to buy hardware they don't want or need to enable that.

it's a fairly depressing business model.

That seems like kind of the fundamental thing with any consumer entertainment software.

 

[Hispanic! At the Disco]

So is this a Wii U except I can take the tablet further than 10 ft from my tv?

 

[Cday]

So much for the NX version of Breath of the Wild being vastly superior, running at 4k etc.

The layout looks like the Wii U Gamepad, which I find very comfortable because of the finger shelf that sticks out the back. Since this is meant to be a portable I don't see it being able to have that same comfortable form factor.

The PSP Go already did the portable/console years ago. While the Go is seen as a historical joke by most, this will be seen as bold and inventive just because it says "Nintendo" on it.

 

[Spy]

Imagine a Pokemon x Monster Hunter crossover.

 

[Nibel]

Well Breath of the Wild is gonna be on that thing so they might be doing both?

I was thinking of that but maybe BOTW is just an exceptional case where they know it'd be a waste to release it on Wii U only and decide to put it on NX as well to push sales.

As of right now my concern is dumb anyway since outside of Let's Dance and BOTW we don't know shit about the lineup

 

[Graphics Horse]

Yeah, that.

Though out of curiosity, what are the remaining 3DS games? Not just ones waiting for localization, but games that are currently in development.

Fed force, star rush, Sun&Moon I think.

 

[TimeEffect]

Hm, so two of the biggest things that need to be wondered about:

-Comfort
-Battery life


Can we expect the battery to be solid?

 

[CosmicQueso]

This mirrors exactly my problem with the NX.

2 ways to solve it...it'll either strictly stay as a console or I get another NX for the portability aspect

And this is how they expect it to print money I bet.

 

[HotHamBoy]

Ok, updated the concept.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Is that little thing going to be more powerful than the Wii U and run Zelda better? If so, I think I like it

I seriously doubt it at this point.

 

[LordOcidax]

~500Gflops handheld is amazing. But ~500Gflops console is not good in 2017.... Mixed feelings about this.

 

[Father_Brain]

I feel like Voldemort lol.

Emily told me this last night. And I was always of the belief my info was about the NX stationary home console with amd chipsets and hers was an Nvidia powered handheld. So nothing has shocked me.

I'll gladly eat crow and accept the L if nx is revealed and there's no home console.

I just don't see how a more traditional console makes any sense at all if there's a hybrid. If there's a platform with HDMI-out that can play >Wii U Nintendo games at 1080p, I don't see who the more powerful console is for, given that it's not going to get most AAA third party games regardless of specs.

It seems like wishful thinking from someone who won't let the Nintendo Corebox fantasy die and is being far too credulous about sources that are telling him what he wants to hear. Sorry.

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

Memory Cards like the Vita. Aimed at the market that wants a device for their TV which they can take on the go, like the Nvidia Shield. Not competing with upcoming Sony/MS systems like the Wii U. Partnering with Nvidia on the GPU like PS3.

It's almost like they're taking cues from all the lowest selling devices and rolling it into one console.

3DS uses memory card though?

 

[pooh]

Did Nintendo really worry that MS and Sony would copy this? Those two wont touch a new handheld probably ever again.

Methinks there's much more to "NX" than just a portable (or home, for that matter) console.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Great news. Just the kind of device I will want. Would have been much less inclined to buy NX if it was just gonna be a direct PS4 competitor.

Zelda BOTW on the go :O