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PlayStation Meeting announced. September 7th 3PM ET (PS4 Neo Reveal)

Right before the Neo's unveil, how do you feel about the system?


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kennyamr

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That is slightly concerning. I really hope they mention something tomorrkw.

Monday is a holiday in the US so don't expect anything until Tuesday.

Also because of the threat of hurricane Hermine, maybe Sony has been waiting to see how hard the storm will hit the city before confirming the meeting is happening.

So far it looks like the storm is moving away and will spare the metropolitan area from any major damage.
 

iboshow

Banned
Even P.T.!?

Yes even PT. I backed up my friends PS4 since I deleted PT for some reason and thought I had it when it was announced it was getting taken down from the server. By backing up his console and restoring it onto mine I got PT back. As long as PT installed you have nothing too lose.
 
Nice work on the gif, but why? As far as I know, Cerny has nothing to do with Playstation since launch. Maybe a gif for PS5 whilst in the dark for the public, but for a mere remodel?

Ahh just a bit of fun, like this one:
Cosigned.

I want to see Cerny's face superimposed on Carrey's in the scene where Ace comes out of the mechanical rhino's anus.
ThoughtfulFlashyAmethystgemclam-size_restricted.gif

Higher quality at the link 50 meg: Cerny Rhino GIF

Besides Cerny is still doing important work with Sony and devs like Kojima (as pointed out). I doubt he would have just designed PS4 and that was it... a long vacation.
 
The answer is above and below your post lmao.

Edit: 2k res isn't the same as 1080p don't spread misinformation man.
While they were talking about a game, 2K is typically in reference to digital film projection, just like 4K, which differs from UHD slightly, but that is also called 4K. It is the number of pixels in width, so 2000 and 4000 pixels across respectively.

Thus, it is perfectly acceptable to call 1920x1080 2k.
 

Kyoufu

Member
Based on the leaks, I think that's a given. 4K native games may not be the rule but we'll still see plenty of games rendered at resolutions better than 1080p and upscaled, and I think the invitation is also a strong clue that Sony is going to make the most of HDR and wide color gamut for titles. Honesty, I'm most excited about improved color representation than I am about the resolution bump.

As am I. HDR is going to be a wonderful thing for image quality.
 

onQ123

Member
You seriously need to stop saying that. Sony's own leaked document states that devs were having trouble hitting 4K with a good framerate and Sony advises to aim for a lower res and upscale.

You will not learn until it's plastered in your face on reveal will you?

Edit: These were also probably first part devs who couldn't hit 4K so don't expect 3rd party devs to either.



I don't need to stop saying anything this console was made for 4K TV owners & soon to be 4K TV owners & it will have 4K games. I'm not saying every game is going to be 4K I'm saying there will be 4K games. Also that document is just letting devs know that they should use a lower res if they are having trouble with 4K.
 
is that true?

Currently a lot of HDR 4k TV's have high input lag, even the Sony's which are usually excellent at standard HD. I don't do competitive MP gaming so it won't affect me much, but MP stuff like COD may suffer a bit as a result until it gets sorted in new models.
 
My PS meeting predictions:
Sony opens with the usual montage of amazing games coming out this year and early next year.... The crowd claps and a few faces show disappointment preparing for the usual conference.... Phil Harrison takes the stage announcing that he is back with Sony after hearing of the superior specs of neo compared to Scorpio. The crowd goes crazy begging to see what Sony is now calling the PS ark of the covenant. Sony talks briefly how they sent a team of Sony ninjas to find the Ark of the covenant just before launching the PS1. Sony believed the Ark held the secrets to creating the most powerful console of all time. Many years of failure led Sony to clone Nathan Drake into a real human who discovered the Ark last year. After stealing the Ark Nate sent for back up as Microsoft employees caught wind of the discovery. A team of Sony Engineers led by Mark Cerny developed a Genetically modified version of Bog Bosses DNA extracted directly from MGS1's game code to clone a new snake they code named Neo-Snake. Shuhei Yoshida snuck into the undisclosed location along side neo snake to successfully sneak Nathan drake and the ark past Microsoft agents. At this point half the crowd is having seizures from the disbelief and a clean up crew is sent in to clean up all the vomit seeping closer and closer to the front row.... Helicopters are now surrounding the building along with hostage negotiators pleading with Sony to stop the conference and let the attendees out. Sony refuses and Phil now brings to the stage Ken Kutaragi..... This is where things get bat sh*t crazy Ken announces that today he will be leaving Sony.... He takes a knee and Phil pulls out a sword..... The entire place grows silent confused as to what is happening.... Phil
Raises his blade and cuts Ken's head off. Phil announces that Ken's years of service to Sony and his selfless sacrifice that was witnessed to millions watching online today has secured Sony the exclusive rights to the Onimusha IP. He cleans his blade off and a trailer is shown. Is this Neo footage?! The graphics are unreal, the PC players in the crowd start throwing up blood in disbelief the PC master race is wounded. Phil announced that the blade that took Kens life would be rendered in game using Neo technology and available to those who preorder the new Onimusha. Now it's Kaz Hirai's turn to take the stage. He calmly steps over Ken's body as he's welcomed with a standing ovation and a very British hand shake with Phil. Kaz announces that when he was tasked with restructuring Sony he knew PlayStation was vital to the companies success. He's pleased to announce today that Sony will now exclusivity be working on PlayStation and that all other branches in the company are now no longer a priority for them. The crowd starts growing tired and chants Neo, Neo, Neo!!! Show us the Neo!!!!! Kaz takes a bow and says as you wish..... The ground opens up and a box with a cloak covering it is now sitting in front of Kaz. A cloak?! What could this mean?! The lights get dim and Kaz starts to rip his face off.... He falls to the floor and arises as no other than KOJI MOTHER F*CKEN IGARASHI!! It was him all along, the crowd stands once again in applause he grabs the cloak which now starts to look really familiar could it be?! Yes it is, it's Alucard's cape! Igarashi announces that all PS neo's will come with a copy of Castlevania: Symphony of the night 2!!!! The FBI smashes through the ceiling and instead of arresting Igarashi they bow in his honor. At this point the Internet explodes! At least half of all nations are dead as their computer screens explode. Russia and the US have no choice now but to join forces and try to stop the Japanese power known as Sony. Nukes are flying towards New York and Sony has roughly 2 minutes to unveil Neo. Colin Moriarty and Greg Miller rush to the stage knowing time is dire. Colin alongside Greg announce that there is a new world order and that all who bow to Neo and pledge allegiance will receive 20 years of PS+ for free. The few people still alive in attendance bow and Neo is finally revealed. Neo sports 10 Gpu's with 15 gazillion cores that you plug directly into your brain. Once plugged into the Neo (Matrix) you transcend your body and are now one with the Neo. The computing power at this point is almost incalculable but Sony gives a rough estimate of around 2 billion gazilliflops.
Edit I meant Phil Harrison not spencer.
 

duhmetree

Member
Does input lag truly matter for games that would benefit the most from HDR? or at least the games I would care to play with HDR.. like UC4, GoW4, Horizon, TLG etc..

I wouldn't expect HDR in competitive multiplayer
 

AmyS

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Hmm, maybe I wait a tad longer on a 4k TV. The prices of them now are not bad. Hopefully a bit better around February next year.

I'm hoping CES will show more 4K sets with improved HDR for 2017, and more sets with both HDR10 and Dolby Vision.
 

Kyoufu

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What does acceptable mean to you? Even the lowest input lag TVs are already at a ~2 frame delay if you count response time and input lag before you enable HDR.

My 4K OLED TV's input lag is at 50ms outside Game mode which still feels fine so I don't see HDR gaming being a problem.
 
Monday is a holiday in the US so don't expect anything until Tuesday.

Also because of the threat of hurricane Hermine, maybe Sony has been waiting to see how hard the storm will hit the city before confirming the meeting is happening.

So far it looks like the storm is moving away and will spare the metropolitan area from any major damage.

Oh crappie. I totally forgot about that.
 
Does input lag truly matter for games that would benefit the most from HDR? or at least the games I would care to play with HDR.. like UC4, GoW4, Horizon, TLG etc..

I wouldn't expect HDR in competitive multiplayer

Probably not those imo (unless it's something crazy that ruins enjoyment like moving a analogue stick and a sec later the action is played out)... it's only twitch stuff like COD where it can really matter online where you could be at a disadvantage against someone whose TV response time is quite a lot better.
 

Lady Gaia

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... it's only twitch stuff like COD where it can really matter online where you could be at a disadvantage against someone whose TV response time is quite a lot better.

That and rhythm games. I don't expect Rock Band 4 or Rocksmith 2014 will benefit much from HDR visuals, so that's not a huge loss for me.

Aside from those titles the vast majority of what I enjoy is relatively lag tolerant. I'm looking forward to luscious visual in my action/adventure and RPG titles but it's going to be a little while. The display at our primary residence is still in perfectly good shape and isn't even four years old so it's tough to justify replacing. Strangely enough we just ordered a decent 4K set for our secondary residence where we're not likely to play any games at all, so it might be a while before all the stars align to really take advantage of the Neo.
 

Kyoufu

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I really like the PS4K name

I know it may cause some confusion but it just fits so well.

I think PS4K is a good name, but at the same time, they'd probably want a name they can use for PS5 as well. PS5K wouldn't make any sense this time next gen.

Half expecting PS4 Pro or something generic to be attached to the end. It's strange that the Foxconn artist hasn't seen a new name on the console box.
 

duhmetree

Member
They should just copy cat Apple's branding/marketing.. Consumers are already accustomed to it...

PS4 = ps4 slim
PS4s = Neo
 

ViciousDS

Banned
I think PS4K is a good name, but at the same time, they'd probably want a name they can use for PS5 as well. PS5K wouldn't make any sense this time next gen.

Half expecting PS4 Pro or something generic to be attached to the end. It's strange that the Foxconn artist hasn't seen a new name on the console box.

I think they need to show the advantages to the average consumer why they should possibly own one even if they don't own a 4k TV. The name of the device alone can make or break you. Look at the WiiU and its marketing, it took almost a year or two for a co-worker of mine to realize it wasn't just a tablet addon for the original Wii. Sadly he was not the only person I knew who had the same mindset in the market. If they name the device the PS4k they will actually render anyone who doesn't own a 4k TV straight out dead for a sale. I don't own a 4k TV but know the advantages it brings to gaming overall, higher framerate and if the native resolution is higher then I will get a nice advantage in downsampling. It's still a worthwhile purchase to me easily.

Its going to be all about the messaging to the consumer and marketing the product correctly to not confuse people.


I think calling it a PS4 Pro or PS4+ would be a better name for the device. Everyone knows apple naming schemes.....it would work to the average consumer.
 
I think Playstation 4K would actually be fine-- people would immediately (should? maybe?) get that it's a Playstation that supports 4K resolution. By PS5 time, people should be more aware of 4K and the PS5 wouldn't necessarily need to try and get the point across that it's a 4K console.

Then again, people apparently couldn't look at a Wii U box and see a new console and controller, so what the fuck do I know (not saying that wasn't a bad move on Nintendo's part but people are dumb)
 

Welfare

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PlayStation 4K is the perfect name. Simple and to the point, just like how PlayStation VR is just that, a VR machine, the PlayStation 4K is a PlayStation that plays in 4K.

Then again, people apparently couldn't look at a Wii U box and see a new console and controller, so what the fuck do I know (not saying that wasn't a bad move on Nintendo's part but people are dumb)

Wii U looks like a slick Wii (like the PS3 and 360 slim's) and the name is literally Wii U. Might as well be a slim Wii with a UDraw tablet for $299.
 

Massa

Member
"Playstation 4K" cheapens the PS4 brand and uses the "4K" brand which Sony doesn't own. It's not going to happen.
 

Celcius

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PlayStation 4K is the perfect name. Simple and to the point, just like how PlayStation VR is just that, a VR machine, the PlayStation 4K is a PlayStation 4 that plays in 4K.
Games would be more like 4K-ish though ("4Kinda" as someone said). Wouldn't they want something name wise they could repeat with PS5?
or even PS Vita
 
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