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Hearthstone |OT8| Elise's Extremely Irresponsible Field Trip To Un'Goro

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zoukka

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It is a super weird design when it's just a better version of infested wolf. Blizzard not being very imaginative here.

This card could've easily been a legendary.
 

Pooya

Member
They nerfed call of the wild they have to give some decent cards to hunter. Neither this or the kodo are exactly oppressive like call was, it's fair game. Hunter is a class that if they run out of cards and the opponent isn't dead or close to they just lose. Their cards need to be high value.

Infested wolf wasn't very good really, playing a 3/3 on turn 4 isn't exactly good and with this one you curve into houndmaster, hunter is all about the curve.
 

Peléo

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Card is really good, even if Grimy Gums didnt exist it already has really good synergys with existing cards to work on its own (Houndmaster, Abusive, Leok, Deathrattle, Beast).
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Presumably the Hunter Legendary will be an incredibly powerful 7 drop to help fill out the curve to Call of the Wild.
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
More sticky minions that drop little token shits.

whyyyyyyy

I like his hat.
 

zoukka

Member
Ohh I see. Because Kodo is a 4-drop, they needed to buff infested wolf but they just made it as a new card.

Presumably the Hunter Legendary will be an incredibly powerful 7 drop to help fill out the curve to Call of the Wild.

Hunter legendaries are the worst.
 

Dahbomb

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So Hunter has a Deathrattle + Beast minion all the way from turn 1 to turn 6 except turn 5.

You can play Huhuran in that slot to be honest.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Good card but yet another one that gets absolutely blown out by Potion of Madness (provided it didn't get any in-hand buff, of course).

Priest is going to be my worst nightmare as a Hunter.

I do think this is actually really relevant too. That priest card is straight up broken, but when you actually think about Shadow Madness, what are the good targets? Anything sticky.

The game used to be full of it with eggs, haunted creepers, imp gang boss, etc. and there were plenty of upside deathrattles like sludge belcher, mad scientist, or just generally annoying cards like juggler.

That stuff got pretty out of control but has been way less prevalant post-standard, and now seems to be trickling in mainly for hunter. The priest card mainly seemed really good against kindly grandmother but will just get even better with more stuff like bad rat. Worth noting it can't hit this after a minion buff to hand atleast, unless comboed with the attack decreaser.
 

Pooya

Member
I like tiger better, it's guaranteed to connect and at that point in the game you need that damage. Your opponent can't interact with tiger and highmane both on same turn, it's unlikely.
 

Dahbomb

Member
Who knows the other Hunter card might be a 5 drop Deathrattle Beast.

Where are the god damn spells? All these minions or minion buff cards have me bummed out.


Let's not go crazy.
It's not that terrible of an idea.

6/5 for 5 mana and is a Beast. Your entire deck and curve is filled with Deathrattles, if something sticks you get value and even if it doesn't you are fine. It's also just one card slot, you aren't putting in two Huhurans.
 

wiibomb

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Good card but yet another one that gets absolutely blown out by Potion of Madness (provided it didn't get any in-hand buff, of course).

Priest is going to be my worst nightmare as a Hunter.

Oh shit.. this is true... priest will even get the deathrattle effect for itself...

priest will dominate the next meta, I can already see that..
 

luoapp

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We potentially have another "imp-losion" here, just too many ways to buff attack. It maybe more balanced if spawns are equal to its health.
 
I think it's being a bit overrated. I want to see what other stuff hunters gets before deciding. It's pretty good with a single buff on it, but I think landing that buff is more important than people give it credit. I also think people overrated that 4 drop 3/3 wolf.

Without buff, it's only a 2/4 which is a weak statline for a 3 drop and it's not even quite that. And priest can potion of madness it.
 

gutshot

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Yeah, I'm with Mobius on this one. I think it is a good card, but not OP. It's Infested Wolf with some upside. But Infested Wolf isn't even that great. The tokens are rarely relevant in Hunter and in a meta dominated by Maelstrom Portals and Ravaging Ghouls, they generally get cleared pretty easily.

The one big thing this has over Infested Wolf is that it curves into Houndmaster perfectly. That is nice. I can definitely see this replacing Wolf in Midrange Hunter lists but it's not going to make Midrange Hunter a new tier 1 deck or anything.
 

Dahbomb

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I think it's being a bit overrated. I want to see what other stuff hunters gets before deciding. It's pretty good with a single buff on it, but I think landing that buff is more important than people give it credit. I also think people overrated that 4 drop 3/3 wolf.

Without buff, it's only a 2/4 which is a weak statline for a 3 drop and it's not even quite that. And priest can potion of madness it.
What is there to overrate about Spider Wolf? It got used as a staple in the peak of Midrange Hunter and still does in Midrange variant of Hunter decks. That's exactly how most people rated it, that it's good enough to get used in Hunter deck.

This card is similar only better. So we can probably expect that this gets played in at least the Midrange variant of Hunter decks.
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
On its own without any synergy it basically has 1 attack and 2 beast tags over haunted creeper. Not really OP. Seems closer in power level to something decent like Harvest Golem rather than something crazy like Imp Gang Boss.

But it will always make sure that Houndmaster is lit and it's way better than Carrior Grub in that way. I think whether this card sees play will depend a lot on whether a Grimy Goons beast Hunter can really compete with Trap Hunter.
 

Dahbomb

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Yeah people forgot that Carion Grab was a card that people ACTUALLY played in COMPETITIVE Hunter decks as a 3 drop that was a solid target for Houndmaster.

This is far superior to Carion Grab IMO. It is firmly within the playable status. We can debate over OP or not sure. I personally think it's just short of Kindly Grandmother tier, better than Spider Wolf tier. My frustration with this card is simply "oh great... ANOTHER sticky non sense Hunter minion for us to deal with that plays on curve in other curve minions that are similar to it..."
 

fertygo

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I think if you forced to use AOE if that thing spawn 4 spider, you already feel really bad and cost you game most of time
 
What is there to overrate about Spider Wolf? It got used as a staple in the peak of Midrange Hunter and still does in Midrange variant of Hunter decks. That's exactly how most people rated it, that it's good enough to get used in Hunter deck.

This card is similar only better. So we can probably expect that this gets played in at least the Midrange variant of Hunter decks.

People rated it higher than simply being good enough to run.

Sounds like you just did

I only said that without being buffed it's just mediocre.

Yeah people forgot that Carion Grab was a card that people ACTUALLY played in COMPETITIVE Hunter decks as a 3 drop that was a solid target for Houndmaster.

This is far superior to Carion Grab IMO. It is firmly within the playable status. We can debate over OP or not sure. I personally think it's just short of Kindly Grandmother tier, better than Spider Wolf tier. My frustration with this card is simply "oh great... ANOTHER sticky non sense Hunter minion for us to deal with that plays on curve in other curve minions that are similar to it..."

Carrion is 2/5 though. I remember it saw a limited amount of play and then was removed.
 

wiibomb

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There is a deal on Amazon coins if you go to Amaz's twitch page.

There is a link to get 5000 coins for 25$

I wish I could redeem it, but it only works for new accounts made before Nov. 7th and also must not have made any kind of purchase of amazon apps, not even free content (I got screwed for that last part)
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
I wish I could redeem it, but it only works for new accounts made before Nov. 7th and also must not have made any kind of purchase of amazon apps, not even free content (I got screwed for that last part)

Wow. Fuck.

I thought I would apply for it but the free thing is going to screw me over too, lol.
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
5000 coins are how much in HS money? and does it work cross region? I have a prior NA account from buying xbox gift cards.

5000 coins is worth $50 USD in-game. That's 40 packs. So it's basically 50% off 40 packs.

Buying Amazon coins usually gives you a discount anyway. Normally buying 5000 coins is $42 USD.

I have no idea if any of this is cross-region.
 

wiibomb

Member
5000 coins is worth $50 USD in-game. That's 40 packs. So it's basically 50% off 40 packs.

Buying Amazon coins usually gives you a discount anyway. Normally buying 5000 coins is $42 USD.

I have no idea if any of this is cross-region.

it is "kinda" cross region. you make an account on .com website or any other (you can also transfer the account to another country to buy there) and then you log in your account in HS on android to use them, the amazon account is independent from the blizzard account. That is how I used an account from Germany to buy on my American HS account
 
Rat Pack is ridiculous with Houndmaster. That alone seems like enough to make it playable. Also really good with Leokk, not to mention the other buff cards if Hunter plays them.
 

rickyson1

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Who knows the other Hunter card might be a 5 drop Deathrattle Beast.

Where are the god damn spells? All these minions or minion buff cards have me bummed out.



It's not that terrible of an idea.

6/5 for 5 mana and is a Beast. Your entire deck and curve is filled with Deathrattles, if something sticks you get value and even if it doesn't you are fine. It's also just one card slot, you aren't putting in two Huhurans.

judging by Druid and Priest I feel like this expansion will probably have more spells than usual overall

just not in the Goon classes
 
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Im the new world champion.
 
Wasn't Buzzard 3mana? Was completely broken it was just Buzzard plus Unleash combo GG usually.

It was 2 mana and while UTH was great when your opponent didn't play around it, it was really just as good without it especially after they added more and more strong cheap beasts like webspinner and haunted creeper. And then highmane synergy as well.

I think it showed Blizzard that hunter should not be capable of cheaply drawing many cards of a draw engine, which is why they nerfed it so severely.
 

bluehat9

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I always like carrying one flare in my hunter deck so priests can thoughtsteal it right after I play my 0 cost secrets, lol.
 
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