Servantes
Neo Member
Weird i also made 2 clips of a naked woman and naked guy but i only got a warning not a suspension.
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I found a vagina in Watch Dogs 2 and Sony suspended me (Update: Ban lifted)
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Weird i also made 2 clips of a naked woman and naked guy but i only got a warning not a suspension.
Wow, that's dumb and I also assume that you pay for PSN+ so that means you pretty much paying nothing for a whole month but yet Sony is still happy to take that money.
As far I am concernyou did nothing wrong as that content was in the game and all you did was share it on Twitter.
Gemüsepizza
Member
But why is it valid? Shouldn't Sony make it impossible for underage users to see such content? I mean this can't be hard to implement.
Jesus, they are really out to get you huh. This is some anti-consumer bullshit right here. I shared a crapton of videos of BJ Blaz mutilating people in Wolfenstein, which is apparently fine I guess huh. Yeah, yeah I know their policy is "no nudity". But what the hell is the point of the share button, eh? Sounds like they are punishing you for their pretty stupidly thought out sharing system. As you can share whatever M-rated scenes you want, unless they are ones they don't particularly like.
SilentRage47
Member
This made me so hyped for the game!
Giftofgab24
Member
Whoa. That's not ok at all and I can't believe Sony isn't getting flamed hard for this. They're pretty much trying to strongarm you into shutting up about it. I don't understand how your ban could be extended if you can't even access online services. That's bullshit. I'll make sure to buy all my multiplat games from a different service because of their behavior. The first ban is understandable because of the TOS. The second ban has no justification.
Servantes
Neo Member
Yes from The Netherlands.
SeeNoWeevil
Member
Has anyone done a PS4 vs Pro comparison yet? Are pro genitals tessellated with HairWorks?
I heard they are using SpeedTree
for the bushes
The Europe difference
Okay. I can't click on it now 'cause at work but at least OP delivered.
Jeronimo Jones
Member
I don't agree with the original ban, but it's not that shocking.
What is shocking is that these things also exist in the real world and every woman has one... scary, right?!
What is shocking is that these things also exist in the real world and every woman has one... scary, right?!
Inceptional
Member
I say we all take a pic and share it? They can't ban/suspend all of us right? Right?
You remind me of the Miiverse kids "revolting" against a posting time-limit or something by getting themselves banned.
CamHostage
Member
BTW, Sony Interactive Entertainment and SEN's PlayStation Network Terms of Service are chasmically broad, but Goron2000 might have difficulty finding a leg to stand on. Here's a relevant line for this situation:
You may not take any action, or upload, post, stream, or otherwise transmit any content, language, images or sounds in any forum, communication, public profile, or other publicly viewable areas or in the creation of any Online ID that SIENA or its affiliates, in their sole discretion, find offensive, hateful, or vulgar. This includes any content or communication that SIENA or its affiliates deem racially, ethnically, religiously or sexually offensive, libelous, defaming, threatening, bullying or stalking.
But also, Sony attempts to absolve itself of any responsibility legally for allowing anything violating TOS to happen on its network, so they're having it both ways...
Unless otherwise required by law, SIENA is not responsible for monitoring or recording any activity on PSN, including communications, although SIENA reserves the right to do so and you hereby give SIENA your express consent to monitor and record your and your Sub Account's activities and communications.
Time to twitter Sony and SIEE in bulk people. They can't be allowed to get away with this shit!
Dude Abides
Banned
I don't understand why people are defending Sony. Why does Sony have any interest in what appears on OP's twitter? If he used his phone camera to take the picture off the screen and posted that to twitter would Sony still be justified in banning him?
CamHostage
Member
It would be nice if they did something to work out how content from a game approved for release on their own platform (it's a little different if somebody streams on the PS Twitch tool or somebody could screengrab something from a DVD movie) violates the TOS. Think of the kids so that I don't have to care about the stupid parents, please. But we're several years in now to Live From PlayStation and they've not taken any action about filtering M-rated content from family-approved content, so I don't know why they'd take drastic action now instead of just banning everybody who screengrabs a WD2 naughty bit until word fully gets out. It's mostly an isolated issue, there aren't constantly games with vaginas in them (but oddly, there have been a good number of penises in games, who'd have figured?) to put them in perpetual crisis.)
As I understand it,
EDIT: That is not correct. Griffy explains that it's the actual mechanism of the Share feature of the console itself.
For those who don't have a PS4, here's an example of the Live From PlayStation interface:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHcNTXwufOA
If their goal with bans like this is to protect minds of innocent then yeah, maybe they should. If your sharing feature is basically rated E meaning everyone from toddler to gramma gets to see shared pics and clips maybe there shouldn't be violence either.
GinoFelino
Member
Eurogamer just ran a piece on it.
I know this is more of a joke thread to some people, but stuff like this really, really irks me.
I don't like when your odds are stacked as a consumer vs. corporations, and I really don't like abuse of those stacked odds.
I don't know how much of this is Sony and how much is Ubisoft, but until this shit gets figured out: fuck both of 'em.
You should be able to share whatever the hell you feel like if it's IN THE FCKING GAME.
Yep.
Dude Abides
Banned
I see. Thanks. Does it work for anything? Could I post a dick pic to twitter and tag it PS4share and it would show up? Seems like a kinda dumb idea.
brandonh83
Banned
So here's the thing too-- the developers knew what they were putting into the game. Did they not for one second stop to think that someone, if not many people are OBVIOUSLY going to share such an image? It would require ignorance of the highest order to lack this sort of foresight. Did they not think hey, if we put this in the game and people share it, might their accounts be banned?
I'm not putting the blame on any one thing specifically, but this entire situation is fucking embarrassing and demonstrates a lack of professionalism.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Agreed. The best way to enforce this is if they filter out any shared media of M-rated games out of any systems with parental controls. This banning business is not right.Gemüsepizza;224539551 said:
Sometimes I just want to share things directly to my Twitter followers, but don't Twitter posts automatically show on feeds? I understand Sony has their own terms and condition to enforce, but the workflow of this gives the user the impression that they're only restricted my Twitter's terms.
Eurogamer and Polygon both have article up on this, but both are yet to react to ban extension. If they pick up on that could put totally new spin on this story.
GinoFelino
Member
That's not even a thing. Sony has plenty of games with nudity in them. Heavy Rain, basically every God of War, to name a few.
Can't blame the devs for this.
We have age rating systems so the developers/publishers can make whatever game they please and people will be informed of its content beforehand.
CamHostage
Member
No, couldn't be... sorry, I don't know enough about it, somebody here please enlighten us both.
I am going to assume that something about using the tweetdeck of the PlayStation 4 console itself to post that image to Twitter tags it internally or catches it in the post-upload process through the console to put it into the Live From PlayStation feed?
Cornbread78
Member
Unfortunately, the more we push it, the more problems it could cause him and his account. The rules are pretty broad for a reason and like a referee in sports, calls are often open for interpretation.
In this case, he broker the rule once by posting the image, then again by posting the image to Twitter/Here and linking it to his PS account.
While I believe they shouldn't charge him twice for the same image (double jeopardy) but he has no doubt broken the ToS.
$hitty situation all the way around.
now realistically, is there a way for them to trigger a capture block when a vagina flashes on screen? How would they manage it in an open world game. For cut scenes it's pretty easy to manage, but not open world games like WD or GTA.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
The developers shouldn't have to consider that, that's absurd.
This isn't quite right. There's a What's New section on the main menu, which is a Twitter-like feed of the activity of your friends and people you follow:
Screenshots and videos you share using the Share function of the console are posted to this feed. It's not the hashtag that matters, it's using the Share button to share the video/photo to social media. If OP had taken the screenshot and dumped it to a USB thumb drive, and posted it to Twitter himself it likely wouldn't have resulted in a ban (note I'm not blaming OP).
You need to tell eurogamer and polygon about the new ban.
did not know that. well maybe sony should create a filter for m-rated games.
did not know that. well maybe sony should create a filter for m-rated games.
brandonh83
Banned
I think it's definitely a matter of responsibility across the board.
Did you see the image? Look, if there was some decent reason for it, some context, fine. It's there to be sleazy and nothing more.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
was the same thing when I got suspended from Youtube live streaming for 3 months for a Witcher 3 sex video. despite there being plenty of others of the exact same scenes (and no other distinguishing characteristics), I had no defense because it's clearly in violation of their TOS -- regardless of how they enforce it case by case
whether's it's youtube gaming, live from playstation, i presume twitch... probably any other similar 'live' game service... just because it's allowed in a game does not mean it's allowed in their streaming tos -- and even if they don't always enforce, they can and sometimes do suspend ppl without warning. and i think in all 3 tos, it can include sexually explicit or excessively violent content.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ll-frontal-nudity-can-get-you-banned-from-psn
I wonder if Ubi is just "Oh... okay" or if they will actually do something about this and address the issue.
Don't bring attention to it, man. Your tweets might get "reviewed" by another moderator!
Mass_Pincup
Banned
DC1
Member
Yeesss. That would have been impressive.
Agent Gibbs
Member
I don't get it there can't be fully rendered.....*checks links*
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but what i don't get is that showing in game nudity via the share options is banable, but sharing extreme violence isn't?
Surely if it is in this wierd world, then share should be disabled for the game if they are so worried?
besides which now this is blowing up everyone will be sharing it, are they gonna ban everyone?
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but what i don't get is that showing in game nudity via the share options is banable, but sharing extreme violence isn't?
Surely if it is in this wierd world, then share should be disabled for the game if they are so worried?
besides which now this is blowing up everyone will be sharing it, are they gonna ban everyone?
Patch incoming......
uomoartificiale
Member
Could it be just a clipping problem because the base model is in the nude (because of the nudists)?
Maybe there are supposed to be panties there and it's a case of rigging going haywire.
Maybe there are supposed to be panties there and it's a case of rigging going haywire.