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Eurogamer: Nintendo Switch to get Pokémon Sun and Moon third version: Pokemon Stars
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WiiRevolution1
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There is 0% chance this game is revealed in January. Pokemon S/M won't even be two months old by then. Come on now. Some things are just common sense.
Smiles and Cries
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how the hell did you make that leap from Eurogamer's report?
JoshuaJSlone
Member
As long as we're assuming the rumored info is incorrect, though, we could just imagine anything.
Smiles and Cries
Member
People really underestimate how much the Switch needs to sell the image of being a portable even though the battery life will not help support the concept much.
A Pokemon title goes a long way towards selling that idea of this being the next Nintendo portable. This is a handheld so people will give it a pass when the specs do not even challenge the base Xbox One. People will just say this is a very powerful handheld so who cares if it cannot do 4K. 720p on the go his a huge leap from 3DS/vita.
The Switch is dead in the water without selling the handheld portability factor so holding back the Pokemon title and not taking about it day one would be a stupid move Imo.
Traditional handheld titles like Monster Hunter and Pokemon will help the hybrid image. People will forgive the low specs for 720p HD Pokemon on the go. And to know you can still dock that puppy for 1080p real Pokemon RPG on your TV is a good sell.
Pokemon Stars is the most important game that will define the path of this platform.
What this title adds to Sun/Moon will shape how people feel about the Switch as a platform.
A Pokemon title goes a long way towards selling that idea of this being the next Nintendo portable. This is a handheld so people will give it a pass when the specs do not even challenge the base Xbox One. People will just say this is a very powerful handheld so who cares if it cannot do 4K. 720p on the go his a huge leap from 3DS/vita.
The Switch is dead in the water without selling the handheld portability factor so holding back the Pokemon title and not taking about it day one would be a stupid move Imo.
Traditional handheld titles like Monster Hunter and Pokemon will help the hybrid image. People will forgive the low specs for 720p HD Pokemon on the go. And to know you can still dock that puppy for 1080p real Pokemon RPG on your TV is a good sell.
Pokemon Stars is the most important game that will define the path of this platform.
What this title adds to Sun/Moon will shape how people feel about the Switch as a platform.
James Scott
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Pokemon Stars being a 3rd version of Sun and Moon would mean that's not the case
Starwolf_UK
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I remember on the Wii U some games would have save data that could be accessed by all users on the system (I'm not sure if it was just things like leaderboard or if everyone get the same file select screen). Still how Switch saves is going to be interesting to see. Will carts also save to internal memory (would make sense from a security standpoint, look at how many attack vectors 3DS has had from edited cart saves, yes unlike the Wii you had to have a compromised 3DS to set these up) or is it only digital that could benefit from each user having a separate save.
I just hope Nintendo isn't in dope mode and goes "it's a handheld so only one user per Switch hardware".
metalslimer
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Speaking of which though, is Nintendo really going to keep remaking the games in order? A 3D remake of Red/Blue seems like a much better idea.
If I may ask, why? Sun/Moon are doing a great job of capitalizing on the Go hype, which is long since dead & will soon be not limited to Gen 1.
Game Freak does what Game Freak wants to do and not Nintendo and beside the next game on the remake list is the Sinnoh remake, which I can see happening during gen 7 on the Switch.
LincolnTunnel
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How is a Gen 1 remake a better idea? What would it accomplish? Red and Blue were definitely incredible for the time they were produced, but compared to the newer games, they're sorely lacking. It's a small region, the games are sorely lacking in plot, and completely revamping the game/story/region from the ground up would either completely change the game to the point that it is no longer a remake or just upset people who are fans of the originals. Even in the original remakes, new Pokemon are only available in small post game areas. There have been more than 400 new Pokemon since then. Do you include new Pokemon and completely change the distribution of the original, thereby pissing off the nostalgic Gen 1 fans, or only include the original 151 in the main portion of the game, pissing off everybody who has actually kept up with the series and likes the new Pokemon? I really can't think of any good reason for a R/B remake that isn't based entirely on the nostalgia tinted premise the Gen 1 was the best and everything after it isn't as good.
With all the Gen 1 fanservice in both XY and Sun/Moon, there's really no need right now for a Red/Blue remake.
Linkstrikesback
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People are declaring games they've not played at all game of the year based on little to nothing, or all the people hyped for the few seconds they saw of a new Mario Switch game. It's fine to go in the opposite direction as well, and a 3rd version of sin/moon would be one of the most easily predictable games in existence even if you don't actually know anything for certain.
Jwittz makes sense; he's worked with Nintendo directly before and I doubt he'd want to sour that relationship by reporting on these rumours.
Probably is the same reactions some had here. they're crying because Nintendo is hurt right now and they care more about some lost sales than the fact that there will be a Pokemon in the first year on the new Nintendo console!
Fair enough, but what about the other 3? Shofu has definitely reported on rumors before (Ex: The leaked images for Decidueye, Incineroar, & Primarina).
Neoleo2143
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I'm more excited that it's a 3rd version and on a machine with a good amount of power. Sun/Moon are really close to besting most of the series in terms of quality. So a version that cleans up the technical issues with the game and tightens up the content load comparable to BW2, Emerald and Platinum is probably going to be my GOTY alongside P5.
Couldn't you say the same for GameXplain?
Probably too busy making click bait contents as well as doing let's play of Sun and Moon.
Tough to be honest this news isn't enough to pad out a video length where they can spout crazy nonsense theory.
Smiles and Cries
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GameXplain tend to report leaks after they have been published by someone else even when they know about the leaks before hand they will tease it but will not openly discuss it until a major site drops a news story
I find their loyalty to NOA annoying
For Shofu it seems like they gave him an early copy and he probably had follow a NDA. Before then everything he covered were only rumors that could have been fake. Covering the datamine of the entire game may have broken aomething from the agreement. Though I'm just guessing.
ArcaneFreeze
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So how do you guys think theyre gonna go about with the single screen for switch in regards to menus and map and all that?
James Scott
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Like most games for the previous generation. Hopefully Nintendo is smart about it, tho
Neoleo2143
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The most notable thing that'l probably be affected is the Rotom Dex's dialogue and the Battle UI, but that can easily be put on the screen. They might remove the minimap from the bottom. One of the select buttons will have to open up the menu to get to the features. It's not too terrible a transition, but I am curious as to how the battle UI will look.
NipplesAndToes23
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Ooh, I'd love it if this turns out to be true.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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If it were about loyalty, wouldn't they ignore the leaks entirely like the person saying the PokeTubers are?
In terms of functionality or appearance? The latter I could see, the former should be fine--especially when playing on the touchscreen (assuming they use it...and assuming it has a touchscreen)
Yeah battle are gonna take a major hit due to the series regressing back to a single screen.
Didn't Sun/Moon already cut down on the use of the second screen compared to other DS & 3DS Pokémon games?
It still uses it for the battle menu though and without the second screen it's gonna get in the way of the battle, which is a shame as Pokémon really benefited from the second screen.
Smiles and Cries
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I said loyal, not stupid.
They put up a separate discussion video for every reported leak item speak about it for 20-30 minutes get their views which is pretty good business for a Nintendo focused youtuber
Give the Pokemon-tubers a little time to catch up to the new leaks the game just came out so they have Let's Plays to focus on and finding secrets first those channels will be busy for a while
ArchedThunder
Banned
Not gonna be an issue with a 6.2 inch 720p screen.
Fancyarcher
Member
Great news (if true). I suppose a main Pokemon game had to eventually be on a home console sooner or later.
Stone Ocean
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I wouldn't call having to use a separate screen for basic menu functions "progress". That shit was annoying as fuck so good riddance.
OfficerRaichu15
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If we can get alolan forms for...
Caterpie line
Ekans Line
Nidoran M and F lines
Oh and
Seel line
Then its golden
Caterpie line
Ekans Line
Nidoran M and F lines
Oh and
Seel line
Then its golden
I would when it was intuitive & kept clutter down for the top screen.
Stone Ocean
Member
It made sense for the DS/3DS but larger screens/TV can handle a small command menu just fine.
Smiles and Cries
Member
After watching the Know's report https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJBC7ZolWuc
at the end there was a pretty good question what would Stars do?
I want Stars to have a full day and night cycle so you get both Sun and Moon progressions
what else do you guys want in Stars?
at the end there was a pretty good question what would Stars do?
I want Stars to have a full day and night cycle so you get both Sun and Moon progressions
what else do you guys want in Stars?
Both Sun and Moon have a full day night cycle.
OfficerRaichu15
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Smiles and Cries
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Eh, guess I got the trailers wrong but don't they have exclusive plots and exclusive Pokemons during the day and night for Sun/Moon?
lwilliams3
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A higher resolution screen will help on reducing the cluster in the screen.
KratosEnergyDrink
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Makes sense That future Pokémon games will release on Switch was obvious anyway.
But I fear the person who leaked this to the media will get in some serious trouble. I will never understand why some insider leak such banal things anyway, unless they want to hurt a company.
But I fear the person who leaked this to the media will get in some serious trouble. I will never understand why some insider leak such banal things anyway, unless they want to hurt a company.
there are exclusive pokemon yes. The difference between Sun/Moon is that in Moon the time is 12 hours ahead, so if you play during your day hours is will be night. Also plots are almost identical.
Smiles and Cries
Member
kinda tempted to find a good Let's Play to watch but if the story is going to be the same for Stars I should avoid knowing too much
FlaygletheBagel
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If every other turn-based RPG not on the DS/3DS can handle having menus and battles on the same screen without feeling cluttered, I don't see any reason Pokémon can't. Persona 4 Golden is one of the least cluttered RPGs I've ever played and it handled having menus and battles on one small 5 in. screen just fine.
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