About 60GB on PC, the Xbox One version is probably similar.
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HITMAN |OT| Blood Monthly
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About 60GB on PC, the Xbox One version is probably similar.
65gb. But you can download the episodes seperatley, so you don't have to download all the episodes to play. Just episode 1 and the base game should be enough.
After spending many hours playing the game this weekend and earning almost every trophy and challenge in just the tutorial and Paris, I concede that this may end up as my GotY. Shameful if many award sites sleep on this when deliberating selections.
Oldest Snake
Member
God I really hope they drop this online/offline stuff for season 2. It's easily the GOTY as far as I'm concerned but knowing it has this horribly restrictive DRM (on top of Denuvo, I might add) makes me feel horrible for supporting it, doubly so because I've personally barely experienced any issues with it aside from the broken launch.
This game should not have a "mixed" response on Steam, there is no reason for a rating so low based on the quality of the game. After a game like Absolution, for a franchise (a sandbox/stealth franchise at that!) to not only go back to its roots but for it to go above and beyond its best entry is basically unheard of. Yet there it is, with a "mixed" reception on Steam.
The episodic model accounts for a fair number of negative reviews early on but that release model was vindicated once IO could show HiTMAN iss perfect for that sort of release but there's no justifying the online/offline lockdown at play here. Denuvo is enough, stop being greedy.
This game should not have a "mixed" response on Steam, there is no reason for a rating so low based on the quality of the game. After a game like Absolution, for a franchise (a sandbox/stealth franchise at that!) to not only go back to its roots but for it to go above and beyond its best entry is basically unheard of. Yet there it is, with a "mixed" reception on Steam.
The episodic model accounts for a fair number of negative reviews early on but that release model was vindicated once IO could show HiTMAN iss perfect for that sort of release but there's no justifying the online/offline lockdown at play here. Denuvo is enough, stop being greedy.
Yeah, that's still a lot. Gotta check my cap, but that disc version isn't out too much later.
Thanks!
Intheflorsh
Banned
Agreed, they've definitely lost more than they've gained with the always online requirement. It tainted the game early on with a bad reputation and many people are still reluctant to make a purchase. I know they use the constant online connection for collecting metrics and player data, but most games are able to take advantage of that in the background. In any case, I manually blocked my computer's communication with the IO metric server so they're not getting anything from me.
Moff
Member
yes but that one is still part of the first set of 3 bonus episodes
ASilentProtagonist
Member
As much as i'm loving the game, i'm glad PC users aren't putting up with it. The intrusive online only functionality, and the other business model crap that this game has adopted.
PC gamers don't put up with this BS by making their voices heard , and their wallets held. This stuff gets devs/publishers to straighten up.
Basileus777
Member
Now that I've finished most of the challenges in Bangkok, I really do feel that it is the worst level in the game. It's not that it is small, it just doesn't do a whole lot with the space that it has. The south side of the hotel doesn't feel well utilized.
It's not DRM.
Your bashing award sites when you havent played past the first real level? Strange.
Also this is the darling of the year along side doom. Hitman,p has gotten plenty of sales and recognition and will continue to.
Basileus777
Member
"The first level." Completing every challenge in the training mission and Paris takes many hours and is more than enough to judge the game off of.
Dick Justice
Banned
Might as well be, considering you pretty much get locked out of any real progression mechanics if you lose your connection.
Cozmogramma
Member
I love Bangkok. Probably my favorite after Hokkaido.
Glass Shark
Banned
Seeing the "mixed" on Steam almost stopped me from buying the game, but then when I looked at the negative reviews they were all about "DRM" and nothing else. I don't fault people for having an opinion on that, but it's not something I care about personally. I'm really glad I bought Hitman, it's becoming one of my favorite games of the year.
Honestly, you should always take Steam reviews with a huge grain of salt. Any game that has any kind of 'controversy' around it will often get bombed in the reviews for one specific thing that may totally not be an issue for you or most players.
John Kowalski
Banned
Oh wow. The projector actually works like a real projector.
That's impressive.
That's impressive.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
They're both my favorite maps on the game but they feel a little under utilized if anything. In Bangkok I really love the aesthetic, but when it comes down to actually taking out the targets it felt like there wasn't as many ways as I'd hoped. the upper floors felt a little under used too.
Hokkaido on the other hand feels a lot more freeform except it suffers from the same issue as the Sapienza mission where I felt like I was being pushed towards a choice rather than making one of my own. Hopefully both of these missions actually have alternative viable end situations that don't involve being spotted but I'm not banking on it.
The level design itself is crazy good though. I do sometime feel like not enough of that level is being put to use but that's my only complaint. I've yet to dabble in anything but the main contracts so perhaps the side content will address that. The only level I actually disliked tbh was Colorado.
MaKTaiL
Member
NEW EASTER EGG ON HOKKAIDO HAS BEEN FOUND!
This one appears to be HUGE and has not been totally solved yet. Back when the episode was released some people found a small miniature of a ninja in one of the Hospital locations. Once you shoot it it vanishes and up until now nobody new what it did.
Today one of IO devs posted the location of the second ninja to spark up our interest again. Once you shoot it the ground starts to shake and apparently another ninja has spawned. Its location has not been found yet.
Here is the location of the first Ninja: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxhdsolPAOg
Here is the second (it's close to the edge of the guarden from where you can see the helicopter): http://www.hitmanforum.com/uploads/.../f9e180402a77c2b8d31390b5f96a1a7af8f8822a.jpg
Some people think the Easter Egg will lead to a Vulcan Eruption. You guys can follow the progress here: http://www.hitmanforum.com/t/easter-eggs-in-hitman/4993/1897
This one appears to be HUGE and has not been totally solved yet. Back when the episode was released some people found a small miniature of a ninja in one of the Hospital locations. Once you shoot it it vanishes and up until now nobody new what it did.
Today one of IO devs posted the location of the second ninja to spark up our interest again. Once you shoot it the ground starts to shake and apparently another ninja has spawned. Its location has not been found yet.
Here is the location of the first Ninja: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxhdsolPAOg
Here is the second (it's close to the edge of the guarden from where you can see the helicopter): http://www.hitmanforum.com/uploads/.../f9e180402a77c2b8d31390b5f96a1a7af8f8822a.jpg
Some people think the Easter Egg will lead to a Vulcan Eruption. You guys can follow the progress here: http://www.hitmanforum.com/t/easter-eggs-in-hitman/4993/1897
zer0blivion
Member
Walter White sees through my disguise.
This game is so good.
This game is so good.
Interesting. I think I'll join in on the hunt for the third. I love the easter eggs in this game.
if by "straighten up" you mean "go back and make another hitman absolution because that game has presently sold around 7x as many copies on Steam" then yeah, sure, that's what they're doing alright
i dont think so but i might be wrong
MaKTaiL
Member
If they have the exclamation point on their head then they are not suspicious yet. If you keep bouncing on them they will become suspicious and it will change your ranking.
tearsintherain
Member
Your direction has no effect on people with dots over their head, only their direction matters. Otherwise you could moonwalk past every guard
Its awesome to see so many new people get into the game, I hope more people vote it into GOTY awards. For me its easily GOTY of 2016.
Its awesome to see so many new people get into the game, I hope more people vote it into GOTY awards. For me its easily GOTY of 2016.
Yep. Just did Sapienza for the first time and was thinking the exact same thing haha.
So I'll preface this by saying I'm having a blast with this game, and it's a real breath of fresh air.
Tbh, I'm actually not 100% sure how these mechanics work yet, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I want to talk about how time works in this game, because right now I don't think it's quite there yet, and could potentially be really awesome.
Am I correct in thinking that there are some things that just operate on a clockwork (like Victor walking onto the catwalk for example) that'll just happen regardless of your actions, and then there are some things that 'revolve around the player' in that they'll only be triggered once you walk into the room - often overhearing conversations for example?
If that is the case, I'd say the latter mechanic should probably be removed - things should generally be happening regardless of your actions, unless your actions logically effect it. So, it makes sense that a meeting wouldn't take place because you've offed one of the guys, but it doesn't make sense that two people will only start having the meeting once you walk or listen into the room.
So if we are keeping things to a clockwork, which does seem to happen a lot of the time anyway, I've found it pretty frustrating because I just don't know when the fuck the targets are going to do their thing. Has it already happened? Did I miss it? Am I going to be waiting for 2 minutes or 30 minutes? I don't really mind waiting, but I'd at least like to know what's going down.
So to counteract this, I feel it wouldn't be a bad idea to actually introduce a fully 'time' system, that could even be integrated into the UI. The mission starts at x time and then events will take place at various stages going forward. If you overhear or read a piece of information that tells you this, you get a little marker on a timeline (Victor will be presenting on the catwalk at 9:05pm) so you've now got a sense of his movements throughout the night and you can plan accordingly. "Oh shit, 5minutes before Victor's gonna be on the catwalk, I'd better get moving." You still have to work to gather intel so you know when they'll be where they'll be, but it takes away the randomness of waiting around wondering what they're up to.
Is it too complicated to ask for everything to be operating by clockwork for precise times? I dunno, you'd probably have to introduce cancelled timeline moments if you fuck with their schedules which could get out of hand (for the developers) quickly. Not sure, but if feels like they're almost there. I really want the element of randomly waiting for things to happen or not happen gone though. It puts a real dampener on the pace sometimes. Thoughts?
I have generally always found it a massive hurdle I constantly have to get over with how weird Agent 47 looks and acts in general. I know this has been this way from the start, but having a fucking barcode on the back of your bald, shiny head is a clear giveaway regardless of your attire. I suppose it's a bit of camp that the series is happy to sometimes flirt with, but it's a bit jarring every single time I change attire.
Tbh, I'm actually not 100% sure how these mechanics work yet, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I want to talk about how time works in this game, because right now I don't think it's quite there yet, and could potentially be really awesome.
Am I correct in thinking that there are some things that just operate on a clockwork (like Victor walking onto the catwalk for example) that'll just happen regardless of your actions, and then there are some things that 'revolve around the player' in that they'll only be triggered once you walk into the room - often overhearing conversations for example?
If that is the case, I'd say the latter mechanic should probably be removed - things should generally be happening regardless of your actions, unless your actions logically effect it. So, it makes sense that a meeting wouldn't take place because you've offed one of the guys, but it doesn't make sense that two people will only start having the meeting once you walk or listen into the room.
So if we are keeping things to a clockwork, which does seem to happen a lot of the time anyway, I've found it pretty frustrating because I just don't know when the fuck the targets are going to do their thing. Has it already happened? Did I miss it? Am I going to be waiting for 2 minutes or 30 minutes? I don't really mind waiting, but I'd at least like to know what's going down.
So to counteract this, I feel it wouldn't be a bad idea to actually introduce a fully 'time' system, that could even be integrated into the UI. The mission starts at x time and then events will take place at various stages going forward. If you overhear or read a piece of information that tells you this, you get a little marker on a timeline (Victor will be presenting on the catwalk at 9:05pm) so you've now got a sense of his movements throughout the night and you can plan accordingly. "Oh shit, 5minutes before Victor's gonna be on the catwalk, I'd better get moving." You still have to work to gather intel so you know when they'll be where they'll be, but it takes away the randomness of waiting around wondering what they're up to.
Is it too complicated to ask for everything to be operating by clockwork for precise times? I dunno, you'd probably have to introduce cancelled timeline moments if you fuck with their schedules which could get out of hand (for the developers) quickly. Not sure, but if feels like they're almost there. I really want the element of randomly waiting for things to happen or not happen gone though. It puts a real dampener on the pace sometimes. Thoughts?
I have generally always found it a massive hurdle I constantly have to get over with how weird Agent 47 looks and acts in general. I know this has been this way from the start, but having a fucking barcode on the back of your bald, shiny head is a clear giveaway regardless of your attire. I suppose it's a bit of camp that the series is happy to sometimes flirt with, but it's a bit jarring every single time I change attire.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
This may be a silly complaint, but I'm annoyed by guns on 47's back. They did such a good job bringing back classic Hitman, but I really miss the cool animations of 47 holding a shotgun in his off-hand and pistol in the other. Or even walking around in disguise holding the weapon -- this gets you caught now :/
also miss how the old games had a fpv, even if it was a bit janky.
I hope for the next game they can ditch the magnetic guns on your back, that even the PS2 games had better animations and poses for.
Also, really don't like how 47 moves with a pistol aimed... it looks dumb and it's janky to control.
Otherwise... cool game.
also miss how the old games had a fpv, even if it was a bit janky.
I hope for the next game they can ditch the magnetic guns on your back, that even the PS2 games had better animations and poses for.
Also, really don't like how 47 moves with a pistol aimed... it looks dumb and it's janky to control.
Otherwise... cool game.
I would like to see the fidelity of back weapons that Uncharted 4 had.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Wonder if (minor opportunity spoilers)
you can make the female target fall during Yoga as a result
Not when you're disguised as someone who is expected to be armed like a security guard, bodyguard, soldier etc.
No HDR on the PS4 Pro, and probably no HDR on any of the platforms.
Remembrance
Member
Look at what happened with Dead Rising. Now that the one major series with fixed schedules and missable events as a core feature has dumped those core features, I don't see any other game series going near those features any time soon.
As great as that kind of gameplay can be, if you make an event timed and missable then more players will miss it than find it, guaranteed. Developers hate making elaborate content that gets missed by most people.
And you would have to do two things to see an event: find out about it before it happens, and be there on time. If you make all events missable then a higher-than-you-think percentage of players will just wander around never finding anything.
In Paris, I don't think events happen on a fixed schedule, but they will happen faster if you trigger them by going near certain people (which can happen without you knowing). If you wander around for an hour or more, half the opportunities are already gone.
In later levels, except for the targets' loops nothing really happens unless you're there to see it or you trigger it yourself, except that some levels might have one useful NPC who walks a one-way, non-repeating route on a fixed schedule. So a mission will have, at most, one time-based thing that you can completely miss.
Interesting. I'll say that Dead Rising isn't necessarily as accessible as what this'd be because the time-based stuff is spread out across the entire game, whereas Hitman is only over a mission; a mission that is designed to be replayed and experimented with. I don't think that's as daunting or as anti-commercial as Dead Rising. It fits pretty snug into the whole observing/planning/executing gameplay of Hitman.
Otherwise I can get around what you're saying. It seems like a careful balance that they've definitely thought through, but I'm not quite fully appreciating where they decided to land.
The one that really irked me in Paris was waiting for Viktor to
walk outside into the garden so I could electrocute him when he steps into the puddle of water. The first time I did it was pretty smooth sailing. I waited about a minute for him to complete his route then it worked no problem. The next time, his route didn't seem to include walking out into the garden at all? I seem to recall he makes a phone call out there, so that is a one time thing? That perhaps I missed? But I wasn't sure I'd missed it, so I just stood and waited for another 10 or so minutes and he never did it. Really frustrating because as of current, that's my only known method for suit-only accidentally killing him.
And whether it's emphasised or not, and whether it's mostly all route-based, the game definitely contains time-based problem solving that you need to be aware of. It feels like they're giving you problems to solve that you're not given enough information to deal with. So you end up just randomly waiting a whole lot.
And you're right, I've only really had these problems in Paris, although I've only played Sapienza and Marrakesh one time through, however I could so far, whereas Paris I've been trying to hit specific challenges which requires specific timing to do, so that might also be why I've had more frustrations there.
It's a very interesting and admittedly challenging design process though, for sure.
More_Badass
Member
Inside and Oxenfree will be fighting it out for the #1 spot in my indie-only GOTY list, but Hitman will definitely be my top game in my main GOTY list. One of the best returns-to-form in gaming, the best Hitman game yet, and the evolution of the series I've been waiting for since Blood MoneyYour direction has no effect on people with dots over their head, only their direction matters. Otherwise you could moonwalk past every guard
Its awesome to see so many new people get into the game, I hope more people vote it into GOTY awards. For me its easily GOTY of 2016.
Remembrance
Member
The second half of the season really shows off the lessons of Paris. Target routes are not necessarily short, but they're more easily internalized and compartmentalized. Some dialogue that would normally play during a target's loop is delayed until the first time the player is nearby to hear it. Most accident kills require doing something to explicitly alter the target's route.
And, for some reason, almost all electrocution setups are now clearly intended for random NPCs rather than story targets.
Still, we lose something from this approach: Novikov was possibly the most developed character in the whole game, just because of the sheer number of events he has over multiple loops of his route. He talks to just about everyone, from allies to enemies, from VIPs to subordinates. You can piece all these together over multiple runs to form the complete picture of his character - if you had to follow him for half an hour to hear it all, you'd probably have killed him out of sheer impatience before you were done.
I hope there will be more levels like Paris in terms of complex time-based routes and events, because this is really the only way the game can develop its characters. The final episode has a massive lack of character development for related reasons.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
ha, yep, I was doing something similar. I wasn't doing step two though, interesting. Thanks!
publicpwnerer
Member
Ouch, really? Here I was looking forward to getting the disk version.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah. If you want things in single-player, like Sniper Rifles or poison, and you want to be able to clear all the Challenges, you need to be online.
A patch is due across all platforms today. No patch notes will be released until it goes out live but it's described as being substantial with many improvements across the board:
https://hitman.com/updates/november-update-release-notes
https://hitman.com/updates/november-update-release-notes
Cozmogramma
Member
rockman zx
Member
This is the worst thing about this game, I have time to play right now but I can't because all the Escalations are gone until the server is up.