Crossing Eden
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Rumor: Trademark for Kojima's Death Stranding Engine, Named Decima
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Greatest Ever
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Plz be 60 FPS
ItsTheNew
I believe any game made before 1997 is "essentially cave man art."
Is it a rumor if that was the logo on the trailer? According to the 4 chan link it's based on Guerilla Games' engine
ASilentProtagonist
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The visuals are just insane, soo atmospheric. I love this engine.
valkillmore
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Yeah I didn't think he was developing his own engine. Thought that's what the studio tour was in part, so he could find the tech to use to develop his title.
Crossing Eden
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Heavily modified to the point that it can be given a new name. According to Shinobi it's supposed to be Guerilla's engine.
Shinobi said it's Guerilla's engine as well.
Karspankey
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We Quake now boys
HomerSimpson-Man
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At those level of visuals? Yeesh.
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If it's a more modified version of the Horizon engine, that would be great. Also gives off a good hope it might be a somewhat open-world game. MGS V's open world stealth mechanics were excellent, if he can work and improve upon that, should be an amazing game.
valkillmore
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Well it's already confirmed to be running in 4K natively on PS4 so everything is on the table now.
PLASTICA-MAN
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I hope they talk about it at PSX in depth.
The visuals are just insane, soo atmospheric. I love this engine.
Is that Guillermo del Toro?
Crossing Eden
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That trailer was supposed to be on PS4 pro but no way they're getting that IQ on consoles or asset quality during gameplay since the game is supposed to be open world. Unless there's barely any AI systems in place.
funkystudent
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Probably still is. Or at least a fork of one.
So... like Kojima Productions got given a copy of the Guerrilla Games engine 6 months ago and told "go nuts"
Look at how many engines at Square Enix where based off IO interactive's engine. Tomb Raider and Deus Ex all used it as their base and build from it.
lucebuce12
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Karspankey
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I thought the same exact thing when I saw it. It's probably because of the direction of the camera and scene itself. Kojima has a very recognizable style!
Garrett Hawke
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That's not real time, at least not on a pro. There is no engine that currently offers those levels of fluid rendering in real time.The visuals are just insane, soo atmospheric. I love this engine.
But I guess people will believe because Kojima, somehow breaking physics and ignoring hardware limits
Like the Knack engine? Lol
I believe Geoff Keighley said this was running on a PS4 Pro right?
I thought it was more due to the art assets, so Yoji Shinkawa's doing maybe.
Self_Destructive
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link?
SolidSnakex
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Or because he doesn't necessarily have a history of outright lying about what his games look like. The one time there was a big gap was with MGS4, in which the original tech demo was coded based on what the PS3's tech was supposed to be. The PS3 (specifically it's GPU) didn't live up to that original benchmark and was downgraded, so the change to MGS4 was inevitable.
Crossing Eden
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In the same way that UE4's FFVIIR looks unmistakably FF, the same technical team will lead to very similar results in terms of rendering.
The MGSV e3 2013 trailer, (which was on pc), looks a good deal better than the final game. Models were higher poly, (Ocelot), things like hair looked a lot better, some scenes had more complex lighting, granted, the final game looks closer to that trailer than MGSIV did, but, again, there's no way he's getting these visuals during gameplay unless the game barely has anything resembling AI taking up the resources, this is an open world game.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Kojima Production does seem to have quite a certain great aesthetic visual style they go for, likely one of the great influence when picking the engine that can realize it.
Lol
Should I assume that it will be Kojima Production's engine even if they don't work with Sony after Death Stranding ?
Garrett Hawke
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He also claimed that the death stranding reveal trailer was "real time" when it was very very obviously CG.
People are setting themselves up for disappointment if they think the final game (whatever it is) will have this level of visual fidelity in 4K on a PS4 Pro.
Logo was shown in the trailer.
Well that's kinda obvious, even past FF XV gameplay trailers looked amazing.
Then they had to finish developping the game and put it on PS4.
I could see that.
...at the same time, it does have a look not unlike Sucker Punch's engine. Something about the shaders in there that reminds me of Second Son (provided they actually re-used some of them, of course).
I'm talking about the engine, not the game itself. I know the game is produced by Sony, but is the engine tied to them, like the Fox Engine was tied to Konami ?
Have you seen Fox Engine?
BigEmil
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Until Dawn creators used a modified version of Guerrilla engine too, it must be quite versatile and seems this is even more heavily modified Guerilla engine with Decima.
Toni
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Nah
Gimme glorious Kojima style gameplay at 4K and locked 30 fps and Im f*ckin set baby!
Garrett Hawke
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yes, and it used very low poly character models for a current gen game & the open world was just a big empty plain with some rocks & the occasional outpost.
There's no way this is running in real-time on anything at the resolution/image quality displayed in the trailer.
people seem to forget how mgs5 character models looked. and that was running on last gen hardware.
if decima is using the infamous second son engine as a base, it should be able to deliver 60 fps with amazing looking character models.
and lets face it: this will be a ps5 launch title.
if decima is using the infamous second son engine as a base, it should be able to deliver 60 fps with amazing looking character models.
and lets face it: this will be a ps5 launch title.
Shinobi is wrong. It's the second son engine according to some journalists.
edit: NEVERMIND, confirmed to be Guerilla.
Never doubt Shinobi I suppose.
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