BassForever
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X-men so maybe as dlc
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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
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X-men so maybe as dlc
TRUE ORDER
Member
Reading the reason why she didn't make it in 3 or Ultimate... that's BS lol, she should have been the rival of Strider. Two ninjas in a roster of over 40 characters isn't a problem IMHO.
Yeah, I'll wait for her as DLC. Hopefully she has a chance
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yes, it's. The reason why people were talking about DLC for Infinite because of the rumor. There is a rumor that X-Men and Fantastic 4 characters wouldn't be available on base roster, so apparently they would allow X-Men and Fantastic Four characters to get in MVCI via DLC.
Jawmuncher
Member
Regina wasn't even a possibility with UMVC3 ;_;
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Because Niitsuma haven't really say anything about characters on Capcom side yet so that does't meant anything yet.
Pieman0920
Member
Given the reasoning that was given for Ghost Rider not being included in vanilla MvC3, I think its best to take any reasoning with a grain of salt. I'm fairly sure some characters weren't included because they just weren't, and didn't have any real reason for not being included other than time constraints really or that the team just never really thought about it. That and the fact that its a different team handling the game now.
christiankid7
Member
I should reiterate (or clarify if I hadn't before) that all the translation (from google, so already its suspect) I could get out of it was something to do with Flying Dragon (Hiryu) being "lost enough", whatever that means. Apparently someone else (on a different forum) said it had to do with voice issues?
Bored at work.
If the producer came up to you and asked for three characters from each side, but only one of those three are guaranteed and they others most likely won't make it, who would they be?
Mine would be:
Capcom
The Arisen from Dragon's Dogma
Nilin from Remember Me
Nina from Breath of Fire
Marvel
Songbird
Medusa
Wasp
If the producer came up to you and asked for three characters from each side, but only one of those three are guaranteed and they others most likely won't make it, who would they be?
Mine would be:
Capcom
The Arisen from Dragon's Dogma
Nilin from Remember Me
Nina from Breath of Fire
Marvel
Songbird
Medusa
Wasp
I'm not sure if I would take that kind of risk for any of my favorites.
That's why I picked characters I'd like, but don't need.
Capcom
-Sissel from Ghost trick
-Hunter from Monster hunter
-Zack & Wiki
Marvel
-Thanos
-Howard the duck
-Shuma-Gorath
I'd love all three so bad. Though, for a MH rep, if they could work out a Rathalos being playable, that'd be the best.
He's probably too big though. Like, too-Ridley-big.
Shrink him down a bit, it's not like all the other characters are in scale. Plus, small Rathalos exist, just look at Monster Hunter Stories.
TheDinoman
Member
Unless it's somebody like Galactus, I wouldn't say size is as big an issue here as it in Smash Bros, which is a platform-based fighter.
Worst-case scenario, they can pull a TvC & have giant characters take up both character slots on your team.
I'm always seeing a generic hunter as the request for an MH rep, but that kinda goes against what we've been told in the past.
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/1...-didnt-want-the-hunter-in-marvel-vs-capcom-3/
I don't know if they've ever said why there was never an MH rep in Smash, or if it's just the same reason. I don't personally agree and I think they could easily do something cool with the character, but they said it not me.
Regardless, there's nothing stopping them from using a giant character or even just one of the smaller monsters. I'd be really surprised if MH misses this entry though, it's grown in popularity in the West and of course it's been pretty essential to Capcom's continued existence lately.
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/1...-didnt-want-the-hunter-in-marvel-vs-capcom-3/
I don't know if they've ever said why there was never an MH rep in Smash, or if it's just the same reason. I don't personally agree and I think they could easily do something cool with the character, but they said it not me.
Regardless, there's nothing stopping them from using a giant character or even just one of the smaller monsters. I'd be really surprised if MH misses this entry though, it's grown in popularity in the West and of course it's been pretty essential to Capcom's continued existence lately.
That's the one thing they could do that'll get me pretty disappointed. I did not like the execution of big characters in TvC.
TheDinoman
Member
Never again, lol.
Sentinel and Nemesis in (U)MVC3 show that you can do bigger sized characters in fighting games like these without having to resort to whatever the hell TVC did.
What's cool with MH monster would be the alt costume potential. I.e. the Rathalos with Rathian and other wyvern costumes, the Yian Kut-ku could have several of the subspecies of bird wyverns as an alt. Like Qurupeco, etc.
Red Arremer
Member
Capcom
PTX40-A from Lost Planet
Firebrand/Red Arremer from the GnG and Gargoyle's Quest series
Franziska von Karma from Ace Attorney
Marvel
Cloak & Dagger
Warwolf
Monica Rambeau
Runnerup is reworked Spiral.
Jawmuncher
Member
Well I'd cheat that producer with my picks, mainly for the capcom side. DC Gonna get a rep come hell or high water.
Capcom:
Regina
Dylan
Gail
Marvel:
Howard the Duck
Devil Dinosaur
A not a clone war machine
Capcom:
Regina
Dylan
Gail
Marvel:
Howard the Duck
Devil Dinosaur
A not a clone war machine
So the same reason why we didn't get any Sengoku Basara representation in UMvC3.
Is it possible that since this is being worked on internally at Capcom this time, Capcom can just override some of the producers opinions and put Monster Hunter and Sengoku Basara characters anyway?
Jawmuncher
Member
I don't think so. Capcom doesn't seem to wanna step on toes at their offices like that. Which is both a good and bad thing. Good that the groups can have a bit of creative control, bad for fans. Well that and bullshit reasons those groups can give. Like the whole "we don't want one face for MH". Even though they've used one armor type numerous times until switching and the like.
None of us know, but I sure hope so.
Date Masamune would look way cool. Just imagining his armor rendered in the MvCi engine has me drooling (not literally...Okay maybe literally).
Kut-Ku is also one of the only monsters as iconic as Rathalos so he does make sense. I'm trying not to come off as a broken record with my Rajang suggestion but he'd really be perfect. He also got a lot more spotlight in 4th gen as that game's Surprise Motherfucker.
But if we're going giant then Gore Magala could have all kinds of fun mechanics, from the virus to transformations. It's also one of the most visually interesting and coolest animated monsters ever with TWO god tier battle themes.
BassForever
Member
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It's really easy to abuse the rules to get the results.
Capcom
Nina from BOF
Ryu from BOF
For Lu from BOF
Marvel
Star Lord
Gamora
Drax
It really is lol. Didn't really consider it.
Red Arremer
Member
Actually, replace that one with Yondu (MCU version) and put Warwolf into runnerups with Spiral.
Doctrine Dark
Member
Niitsuma stuff from before, but better translated:
- Nova: Had been strongly pushed by Marvel since Vanilla MVC3. "He's required for the next version" we were told.
- Ghost Rider: He was indeed popular/well-known. We saw that the "motorcycle issue", could be compromised by including it in his move set.
- Doctor Strange: Pushed super hard by Marvel. We thought we'd be able to make him unique as a "magic" user - he was really fun to work on.
- Rocket Raccoon:We were actually feeling out Squirrel Girl at the same time, but the Raccoon army beat out the Squirrel army in the office.
- Blade: Too many components that would've come from Dante I think...
- Spider-Woman: The flying and electricity would've been too similar to Trish...
- Psylocke: Well-known, good design, and having Strider as a rival would've been interesting - but the fans' voices just weren't loud enough.
- Spiral: From the previous title. Creating a fencer with 6 arms plus magic would've been crazy hard - please forgive me!
- Cloak and Dagger: Has a huge aesthetic impact, and if we treated it like a stand from Jojo's it would definitely be interesting! But in a mirror match w/assists, you'd have absolutely no idea what was happening on the screen. And I mean, double the work, no way!
- Multiple Man: Like I said - workload.
The "fans' voices just weren't loud enough" for Psylocke sounds like horse shit, though.
- Nova: Had been strongly pushed by Marvel since Vanilla MVC3. "He's required for the next version" we were told.
- Ghost Rider: He was indeed popular/well-known. We saw that the "motorcycle issue", could be compromised by including it in his move set.
- Doctor Strange: Pushed super hard by Marvel. We thought we'd be able to make him unique as a "magic" user - he was really fun to work on.
- Rocket Raccoon:We were actually feeling out Squirrel Girl at the same time, but the Raccoon army beat out the Squirrel army in the office.
- Blade: Too many components that would've come from Dante I think...
- Spider-Woman: The flying and electricity would've been too similar to Trish...
- Psylocke: Well-known, good design, and having Strider as a rival would've been interesting - but the fans' voices just weren't loud enough.
- Spiral: From the previous title. Creating a fencer with 6 arms plus magic would've been crazy hard - please forgive me!
- Cloak and Dagger: Has a huge aesthetic impact, and if we treated it like a stand from Jojo's it would definitely be interesting! But in a mirror match w/assists, you'd have absolutely no idea what was happening on the screen. And I mean, double the work, no way!
- Multiple Man: Like I said - workload.
The "fans' voices just weren't loud enough" for Psylocke sounds like horse shit, though.
Lol. Poor Psylocke fans.
Troubled Bat
Member
Strider and Psylocke being rivals, interesting indeed.
Pieman0920
Member
Characters I like but don't love... let's see
Capcom
Miles Edgeworth
Captain Commando
Proto Man
Marvel
Daredevil
Punisher
Vision
How well did Monster Hunter Stories even do? It's not a mainline series so I'm not sure representation would even be up for considering...though it does have a currently running anime.
TheDinoman
Member
Remember when Niitsuma said that Mega Man didn't get into UMVC3 because "he wasn't requested enough"?
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
Pieman0920
Member
I hadn't actually looked at the sales, though it appears to be a little over 250k
I suppose that's not all that great, but still I think Lute's likely since Capcom is pushing the spin off pretty hard, and it does sort of satisfy the original issue of not having an actual hunter character.
christiankid7
Member
Someone thank Fubarduck for doing this. It makes a lot more sense now.
I wonder if "not loud enough" was "not loud enough for Marvel to agree to put a mutant into the Ultimate/DLC roster."
I don't really know if Blade would play similarly to Dante. Have we talked about how Blade would presumably work in a Marvel game?
Prolly means in the company, since he mentioned that basically more people wanted to do rocket than SG.
Well, he'd be too much like dante and deadpool since he'd use guns and swords, that's pretty much how he played in ultimate alliance.
Jawmuncher
Member
At this point I almost expect RE2make to be a RE4 style game. Fully expect the announcement is gonna piss a certain group off.
EDIT: hella posted in the wrong thread
EDIT: hella posted in the wrong thread
Doctrine Dark
Member
Any fun little character specific mechanics anyone want to see?
Phoenix Wright had the Evidence system, Frank had the Lvl up system, and of course the Dark Phoenix transformation. I'd like to see what could be possible in Infinite.
Phoenix Wright had the Evidence system, Frank had the Lvl up system, and of course the Dark Phoenix transformation. I'd like to see what could be possible in Infinite.
Gore Magala would be my favorite choice. Love that monster so much. And imagine a transformation into Chaotic Gore Magala or Shagaru Magala.
Rajang is also a sweet choice; I could imagine it just being so brutal. Level 3 could be the spirit bomb from Frontier, or summoning Deviljho to fight and pounding the opponent to paste as they're caught in the middle.
My pipe dream:
I would like The Arisen with two pawns as "assists" for special attacks. So it'd basically be like a Marvel 3 team in one character. The Arisen himself will be a default Fighter with a sword and shield; and the pawns will be one Strider and one Mage. Super level one permanently class changes the Strider into a ranger, super level two permanently class changes the Mage into a sorcerer, and super level three permanently class changes the Arisen into a warrior.
Hah.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Also he said that Mega Man would play too similar next to Arthur so that was other reason why he didn't get in.
Doctrine Dark
Member
Yo, that sounds pretty dope.
I'm fine with Frank's leveling staying, if needing some tweaks to fit in a 2v2 No Assists game, but I hope Phoenix Wright doesn't have his Evidence thing anymore. It made him borderline unplayable.
If Turnabout Mode was permanent it would have been alright.