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[Inferno313]

The trailers for Disney's live action adaptation of Beauty And The Beast have hewed closely to the animated film, but the remake will apparently offer something both new and quite possibly revelatory. Director Bill Condon explained in a new interview with British magazine Attitude that it will tackle LGBT themes in historic fashion for the studio.

Didn't post the rest of the article, in-case the spoiler brigade comes for my head. More details within.

This is a welcome move for Disney, I hope they continue to push LGBT representation further in their upcoming films.

If you're wondering, and don't want to click through, for whatever reason:

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LeFou's got it bad for Gaston in this adaptation.

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

Not reading the article but Lumiere maybe or just themes?

 

[PSqueak]

Didn't Doty have a lesbian couple?

To be frank i didn't watch Dory, but i heard about it.

 

[TEJ]

Spoiler

LeFou had it bad for Gaston in the original anyway.

 

[KeyBladerXIII]

Eagerly awaiting angry articles and comments saying how they ruined a character that wasn't even important in the original movie.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Please be normally gay, and not flamboyant. That stereotype is fucked.

 

[civilstrife]

Makes sense. Certainly gives Lefou motivation and makes Gaston a dick for exploiting him.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

I kinda suspected as much from one of the clips. The actor was playing it up, so at the very least they were going for it. Happy to see everyone in the production had the same read of the material and just went for it.

 

[civilstrife]

Please be normally gay, and not flamboyant. That stereotype is fucked.

While I think I get what you're saying, I'm super curious what "normally gay" means.

 

[the_sun_king]

If you're wondering, and don't want to click through, for whatever reason:

Spoiler

LeFou's got it bad for Gaston in this adaptation.

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All you need to do is look at the lyrics to "Gaston" and you'd see there was already some homoerotic subtext to begin with.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

Spoiler

Was LeFou ever NOT gay for Gaston? He had an entire song about how great he thought he was.

 

[Bornstellar]

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Was LeFou ever NOT gay for Gaston? He had an entire song about how great he thought he was.

.

 

[Astral Dog]

I knew it was going to be

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LeFou

 

[Nev]

I mean, he was pretty open in the original movie too. I guess it's good that they didn't force some dumb Lumiere x Cogsworth fanfic though, which is what I was expecting.

 

[clearacell]

While I think I get what you're saying, I'm super curious what "normally gay" means.

I think he means "very masculine who just happens to like men". I think we all know he means he doesn't want him to be a caricature, I'm hoping the thread doesn't shit on him the rest of the time.

 

[civilstrife]

Gaston

The wink during "When they tell you whose team they prefer to be on" is clever. Surprised I didn't catch that before lol.

 

[Bronx-Man]

I always thought this even in the original movie.

 

[Rayis]

There's nothing wrong with having a feminine gay male character if it's done right, in fact, I have a HUGE problem with the only gay male representation people want being ultra masculine gay characters indistinguishable from their straight counterparts.

 

[L Thammy]

Is that a change?

 

[Kinyou]

I always thought this even in the original movie.

Definitely feels like something that was already there in the subtext. I wonder if they'll try to make it more obvious here.

 

[Inferno313]

Yes folks, it's always been in the subtext. "Openly" is the keyword here.

 

[PantherLotus]

who among us does not have it bad for gaston

 

[civilstrife]

I think he means "very masculine who just happens to like men". I think we all know he means he doesn't want him to be a caricature, I'm hoping the thread doesn't shit on him the rest of the time.

Not going to shit on anyone. "Very masculine who just happens to like men" is one kind of gay for certain, but calling it "normally gay" is problematic.

Media should indeed portray more than one "type" of gay person, but calling one "normal" implies the others are abnormal.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

People here are saying that it was always obvious with

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Lefou

, but I always thought he was just a comic relief suck-up toadie.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

People here are saying that it was always obvious with

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Lefou

, but I always thought he was just a comic relief suck-up toadie.

Same.

I can see the subtext now that it's been pointed out, though.

 

[border]

Not true.

It's a little known fact, but the flying carpet in Aladdin is actually gay.

 

[jett]

People here are saying that it was always obvious with

Spoiler

Lefou

, but I always thought he was just a comic relief suck-up toadie.

That's what I thought.

But I'm not really that surprised by this change, that is after seeing the tavern clip. Josh Kad seems to be playing him with a certain flamboyancy.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

Not true.

It's a little known fact, but the flying carpet in Aladdin is actually gay.

I dunno about the carpet but I always had my suspicions about the Genie.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

People here are saying that it was always obvious with

Spoiler

Lefou

, but I always thought he was just a comic relief suck-up toadie.

I think the implication in the original was that Gaston was SUCH a manly man that even other men couldn't deny his appeal.

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But IMO LeFou certainly wasn't straight up into him as this news would imply for the remake.

 

[Tertullian]

But $100% serious for a second:

Hugo the gargoyle in Hunchback is gay. He romantically pursues the character Djali, who is a male goat.

 

[brawly]

I'd let Luke Evans stick it to me.

 

[Bulzeeb]

Not going to shit on anyone. "Very masculine who just happens to like men" is one kind of gay for certain, but calling it "normally gay" is problematic.

Media should indeed portray more than one "type" of gay person, but calling one "normal" implies the others are abnormal.

He could have worded it better but I agree with his point, I take normal gay not necessary as a masculine gay dude but as someone who is not shoved in your face so you could see how gay he is. I dare to say that more than "normal gay" the idea should be a character that feels natural into the narrative/story they want to tell and not someone forced into it so the viewer could see how progressive they are by featuring gender diversity

 

[Glix]

I dunno about the carpet but I always had my suspicions about the Genie.

Iago.

 

[Goodstyle]

LeFou wasn't

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gay for Gaston in the original.

Check out this scene for example. The dynamic in the film wasn't that he was secretly in love with Gaston, it's more that he was a sycophant that was ironically smarter than he seemed and may have actually held a low opinion of Gaston deep down. There's also that line in the Gaston reprise where he calls thinking a "dangerous past-time" for him.

 

[Sesuadra]

I thought there was a gay character in frozen..

 

[.JayZii]

If you're wondering, and don't want to click through, for whatever reason:

Spoiler

LeFou's got it bad for Gaston in this adaptation.

So nothing's changing, then?

I dunno about the carpet but I always had my suspicions about the Genie.

We're just going to skip over Jafar desperately trying to make Jasmine his beard?

 

[Boem]

But $100% serious for a second:

Hugo the gargoyle in Hunchback is gay. He romantically pursues the character Djali, who is a male goat.

A statue being in love with a goat is not what I would call a triumphant victory for the gay community.

 

[clearacell]

Not going to shit on anyone. "Very masculine who just happens to like men" is one kind of gay for certain, but calling it "normally gay" is problematic.

Media should indeed portray more than one "type" of gay person, but calling one "normal" implies the others are abnormal.

oh I get that, to me the only normal thing about a human being are the biological functionalities, everything else is what makes us unique from one another and not freakin robots.

But I think the portrayal of flamboyant gay is problematic BECAUSE that was once the "normal" gay portrayed in the media. They have finally gone along and expanded the spectrum thanks to shows like Glee, Adam Pally's character on Happy Endings, Modern Family and the like.

Actually, now that I think about it a flamboyant gay man being a mundane sight would be a win.

 

[Amon37]

Why are we spoilering this? Does the remake count as a brand new movie that can be spoiled?

 

[Fuu]

People here are saying that it was always obvious with

Spoiler

Lefou

, but I always thought he was just a comic relief suck-up toadie.

LeFou wasn't

Spoiler

gay for Gaston in the original.

Check out this scene for example. The dynamic in the film wasn't that he was secretly in love with Gaston, it's more that he was a sycophant that was ironically smarter than he seemed and may have actually held a low opinion of Gaston deep down. There's also that line in the Gaston reprise where he calls thinking a "dangerous past-time" for him.

Yep. It's an easy change to make anyway.

Not sure how I feel about it for now. I'm all for more gay characters in any media, but we'll see. I'm not even trusting this movie to be actually good just yet.

Why are we spoilering this? Does the remake count as a brand new movie that can be spoiled?

It's unnecessary, yeah. Even if it wasn't a remake, anyone clicking the thread should expect to see people openly discussing what character the article is talking about.

 

[Garlador]

So... the same as before.

Only known downside to the live-action remake is we won't get freeze-frame shots of Gaston that look like this:

 

[DrunkShogun]

It doesn't change the story and welcomes a gay character into the narrative so I'm fine but they better not try to redeem gaston in any way. I want my Disney villains to be villains. No time for redemption arcs.

 

[Goodstyle]

Have people who are saying "same as before" even seen Beauty in the Beast recently?

 

[border]

Apparently there is a good case to be made that Scar is gay, and that one of the incidental characters in Frozen is gay.

The 16 Disney Characters you didn't know were gay

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Only 2 of them seem plausible to me)

 

[rhandino]

Please be normally gay, and not flamboyant. That stereotype is fucked.

Lucille, is that you?

 

[Menome]

...and it's Belle. Shake the whole thing up. She doesn't need a man, hirsute or not.

 

[Silver Arrows]

So... the same as before.

Only known downside to the live-action remake is we won't get freeze-frame shots of Gaston that look like this:

that first one made me fucking DIE, christ

 

[old manatee]

So soon?

 

[radios shipping overview]

Have people who are saying "same as before" even seen Beauty in the Beast recently?

They only remember their headcanons.

 

[Firebrand]

I guess that explains the reaction to the "team" line in the song clip the other day.

Apparently there is a good case to be made that Scar is gay, and that one of the incidental characters in Frozen is gay.

Incidentally, Scar was played by gay singer / actor Rikard Wolff in the Swedish version, and he was fucking awesome. Not that there was anything particular "gay" about his performance, he sounds a lot like Jeremy Irons actually. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFpaxK2PzQI