I don't think it's niche in Japan. It's niche worldwide and the west.
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The Gorby Congressmanz
Banned
Well it may be software than stock.
DriftingSpirit
Member
The last one didn't sell notably well on PS3 and 360.
DR2K
Banned
Be kind of embarrassing if a new IP outsold a legacy IP.
VendettaRed07
Member
Disgaea 5 was waayyy too expensive
It's totally a niche game.
That niche just happens to be relatively bigger when compared to the population at large.
Eh, it's still less than PS4 + Season pass, even if you buy the PS4 version for dirt cheap.
TRUE ORDER
Member
Good start for Horizon!
Eolz
Member
Disgaea badly needs a reboot, but I also meant that a niche game wouldn't sell gangbusters at the launch of a console not appealing yet for niche audiences.
It'll be more interesting when the Vita audience starts transitioning, I doubt it won't sell more over time when it's cheap.
As someone pointed out for Setsuna, it also won't have the same appeal in the west since it came out way earlier before, and in some cases, on other similar platforms.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
So like Splatoon outselling every other home console game that's a sequel this gen?
Awesome to see Bomberman's best opening since 1998
.Kresnik258
Member
Like they already did with the Disgaea game prior to this one?
RPG_Fanatic
Member
I mean the software numbers exceeded the number of system sold with physical copies alone. Things seem fine in that regard.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Nintendo needs big RPGs for Japan, I don't know how much DQ XI is going to help tho when that game is on 3DS and PS4.
Will that happen though?
To do that the Switch would have to be receiving the software support Vita got and there's no sign that's the case. The failure of Disgaea will discourage other Vita developers from trying to make the Switch(tm).
Good job Nintendo has the biggest RPG franchise as an exclusive.
Yeah, I'm expecting D3 or a crossover between the different leads.
What big RPGs are left beside DQXI ?
The next Tales Of is likely to come on Switch too, since they listed the IP to be a Switch-partner in January.
BluePikmin11
Member
Those Disgaea and I am Setsuna sales are unfortunate. Cmon Japan.
Nah, we've overdue a new version of Phantasia and the Joycons are perfect for multiplayer.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
Pokémon.
Would be cool ! But it won't happen, the last port of Phantasia was a mobile free-2-play version in 2013 and it was discontinued a year later.
You keep saying that about Disgaea, but I don't see it.
The Last One
Member
VII Remake and KH III.
thestopsign
Member
Stores are saying the 10th/11th for restocks and they will most likely be in limited supply.
Also can we stop fucking extrapolating any relevance from Disgaea? It was is a poorly priced, old port of a dying franchise. There is no future lesson to take from it other than Nippon Ichi needing a kick in the ass to revive the franchise.
It will happen at some point.
First won't release until 8 years and, yeah the second is missing the Switch while it would be a good choice. The game's probably too far away in development to add another platform.
Eolz
Member
I'm sure it will happen.
As soon as part of the audience transfers (aka not the hardcore "I'll die with my vita" fans), more support will come. The issue is more that some of the devs/pubs that'll attract this audience haven't released much (Disgaea for example), if at all yet, but from what has been teased or announced (continued support from NIS, Marvelous with Takaki making a game, KT, indies, etc), the support for this kind of stuff is already more promising than what was tested on DS/3DS/WiiU for example.
But obviously, with the current release/announcement rhythm, nothing will really happen this year to start the transition.
I don't think anyone is thinking Disgaea's failure on the launch week means really anything for now...
SinCityAssassin
Member
Project Octopath Traveler and SMT(5?) are some others.
thestopsign
Member
I think Super Bomberman R is a better game to look at. The game is a part of a dead franchise that got a spotlight due to the lack of other exciting software at launch. Other companies missed a big opportunity to make some quick cash with relatively low investment.
The Gorby Congressmanz
Banned
The number one game is teetering on half consoles sold and clearly buyers brought more than one game. That gap is concerning along with the software numbers and general. This is supposed to make it to the holidays remember.
Skyward Sword did 195K and that was with the Wii having LTD sales of about ~12 million at the time, although it was the twilight of the Wii's lifespan.
DR2K
Banned
So like Splatoon outselling every other home console game that's a sequel this gen?
Awesome to see Bomberman's best opening since 1998
Not in the first week, no.
How does that make sense? Wouldn't living space being a premium encourage a higher digital percentage?
Vita ain't transitioning till they get compile heart games.
1st Course
Member
This is the same country that still use faxes and flip phones.
Kinda low, I was expecting 25 pages by now but then again Horizon did not beat Zelda.
RPG_Fanatic
Member
I wouldn't consider it concerning. There is no such thing as a game for everyone. The switch owners that wanted Zelda bought and those that didn't bought something else or are holding out for games coming soon. I can't think of a game at launch that had a close to 1 attach ratio outside of bundled games. Zelda has been weakest in Japan compared to the rest of the world for a while now. Nintendo is also releasing games at a steady pace this year. A couple month from now after supply start to stabilize will be a better indication about how the system is doing. Nintendo also has a big game for the holiday as well.
Never got any of their games and I have a good amount of Vita titles.
you aren't the vita spokesperson! I AM. -shows badge-
d1 ps2 > d2 ps2> d4 ps3 = d3 ps3 > d1 psp > d5 > d1 ds > dd2 > d3 ps vita > d4 ps vita
i think d5c should do around what dd2 did, or at least better than d3 ps vita.
You don't see how a typically PS franchises doing only a 1/4 of what it did on Vita would discourage other devs?
I don't think Switch support has anything more than the 3DS got though with the exception of Disgaea/NIS. They were also caught in the Kenka Bancho 6 trap, all the other titles PSP/Vita fans like are nowhere to be seen on Switch.
So the franchise has been in a pretty steady decline apart from D3 to D4 then? That's pretty bad for NIS.