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Marvel's Iron Fist |OT| Hi-yahh - March 17th on Netflix

Dynomutt

Member
Watching ep1 the lead actor who's plays Danny's I'm not feeling it maybe a few eps in I might, hopefully

Not gonna go by reviews as I watch everything DC & Marvel so we'll see how it goes

Yeah another superhero orphan lol

Music was good in of itself. But it's unfortunate the music didn't have a greater impact aside from being good songs. In Luke Cage the music almost went with the cinematography.

Guess the Outkast song could be an oxymoron!

Double Toasted Review is up!
 
He should've had the costume at some point in this, they should've thrown in Luke or Daredevil to help him out at some point for a few tag team episodes


I think this is the biggest problem I had right now. The Hand became such a huge part of Daredevil that I think it's really remiss to not have him there at all during any of the Hand battles. Even like a shot of Daredevil watching Danny would have been good, if not Danny looking up and seeing some dude hitting a few of them and running off in another direction.

I really didn't have too many problems with the series as a whole except for the pacing. It seemed really slow overall and I think half of it was basically a glorified office/legal show. I think there was a point in Ep 4 where I was like "oh this would have been good if it was in the first episode"
 
All these marvel shows take a dip in the 2nd half, oh boy this one take the cake. Now thought episodes 1-7 were fine, fighting's clunky, and I think Colleen is a better character then Danny, but whatever it's watchable.

Episode 8:
Lets go to China, but it still looks like your in New York/New Jersey. Put on a simple color filter on make it look like you're somewhere else. Also the fact Danny has no idea what he's doing, makes it seem like the writers have no idea what to do with the show. That Drunkin fighter fight was awful

Episode 9:
Foil Ninja stars, are you fucking kidding me?

The show feels aimless now, this is horrible.
 
I fucking hate this show. Not for any good quality reasons but because I have a smart TV so Netflix runs without another device attached to it. Anyway, I watched a few episodes of this "show" in 4k and now whenever I use my TV to use my computer, it's all scaled up to 4k causing videos to constantly buffer and Twitch to suffer at source quality.

Iron Fist hurt me in more ways than the bad writing.

Also... if anyone could help me out a bit about this piece of writing:

Don't x-rays, ya know, get stored in a computer somewhere after being taken and the physical copy is for medical files but there's always one stored electronically they can pull? Couldn't that be requested from the hospital?
 

Hex

Banned
I have come to the conclusion that this series is about a rich kid who survived a plane crash, has ptsd and his quest to overcome erectile disfunction.
 

Lashley

Why does he wear the mask!?
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Blackhead

Redarse
I have come to the conclusion that this series is about a rich kid who survived a plane crash, has ptsd and his quest to overcome erectile disfunction.

i'm laughing but it's so odd how much Iron Fist deviates from the Netflix Marvel mold. Unlike DD, JJ and LK, the Iron Fist is not an origin story. How hard would it have been to do one flashback episode properly grounding Danny's experiences and motivations?! FFS Elektra in DD season 2 was given a more in depth origin portrayal than Danny
 

Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
i'm laughing but it's so odd how much Iron Fist deviates from the Netflix Marvel mold. Unlike DD, JJ and LK, the Iron Fist is not an origin story. How hard would it have been to do one flashback episode properly grounding Danny's experiences and motivations?! FFS Elektra in DD season 2 was given a more in depth origin portrayal than Danny

The budget on this seems like it was *incredibly* low compared to the others, they probably couldn't figure out any way to portray K'un-Lun.

TBH Danny getting beat easily is true to comics he is not the best iron fist or immortal weapon

When facing other Immortal Weapons or super powered martial artists sure. But to a single random henchman? Come on.
 

Aselith

Member
I fucking hate this show. Not for any good quality reasons but because I have a smart TV so Netflix runs without another device attached to it. Anyway, I watched a few episodes of this "show" in 4k and now whenever I use my TV to use my computer, it's all scaled up to 4k causing videos to constantly buffer and Twitch to suffer at source quality.

Iron Fist hurt me in more ways than the bad writing.

Also... if anyone could help me out a bit about this piece of writing:

Don't x-rays, ya know, get stored in a computer somewhere after being taken and the physical copy is for medical files but there's always one stored electronically they can pull? Couldn't that be requested from the hospital?

Everything would be stored now since the image is taken on a computer but probably not when that would have been taken which was like 2000ish?

Maybe though idk
 

LordRaptor

Member
Maybe though idk

probably lost it due to y2k

actual answer is its been deleted because they outright state all of his records are being wiped to remove any evidence of him being who he says he is, and he figures an obscure hard copy might have been missed - another thing the show is outright explicit in saying is happening
 

RedAssedApe

Banned
i'm laughing but it's so odd how much Iron Fist deviates from the Netflix Marvel mold. Unlike DD, JJ and LK, the Iron Fist is not an origin story. How hard would it have been to do one flashback episode properly grounding Danny's experiences and motivations?! FFS Elektra in DD season 2 was given a more in depth origin portrayal than Danny

Probably budget. Iron Fist origin story, based on what I've read about it seems like it'd be something more along the lines of Thor.
 
I'd mostly agree with this, except I thought the second half of DD S2 was worse than IF, and I thought JJ was overall slightly better than DD S1
I find it the disparity about the Hand in DD2 compared to be the Hand in Iron Fist to be daunting.

in DD2, they seemed more lethal and dangerous.

in IF, they seemed like meh making them less dangerous
 

LordRaptor

Member
I find it the disparity about the Hand in DD2 compared to be the Hand in Iron Fist to be daunting.

in DD2, they seemed more lethal and dangerous.

in IF, they seemed like meh making them less dangerous

I'm prepared to accept that as due to Danny being a better in universe fighter than Matt is, even though extrinisc factors like choreography and level of actor training dont support that
E: also of course DD has one big glaring weakness that they know about and exploit
 
I'm prepared to accept that as due to Danny being a better in universe fighter than Matt is, even though extrinisc factors like choreography and level of actor training dont support that

Rosario Dawson's run-ins with the Hand were way way more dangerous in DD2 than in IF.

it's like TMNT2 Secret of the Ooze downgrade of the Foot Clan compared to the 1990 TMNT Foot Clan.
 

RedAssedApe

Banned
Oye. That e8
drunken fist
fight was laughable bad.

I'm prepared to accept that as due to Danny being a better in universe fighter than Matt is, even though extrinisc factors like choreography and level of actor training dont support that

Such a good fighter that he can just fuck around and still win. Like you said. I guess we'll have to suspend disbelief. Although if they can get him in costume for the defenders then they can do better fight scenes moving forward.
 
Finished last night.

It's... rough. Its writing is horrible, character motivations range from really terrible to nonexistent, Danny is a giant creep and is an unengaging protagonist, the villains aren't that great, characters are extraordinarily dumb, etc. Its critical reception is well deserved.

But... I liked it. Quite a bit, actually. When I got into the aimless and dumb groove, it was a fun ride, especially when stupidity moves the plot (constantly). As someone who loves horror movies, I'm kinda used to it. I did like how villains kept flipping on and off, it kept me on my toes. At its worst, it's dumb fun, which I prefer over how Daredevil Season 2 was a giant mess and how Luke Cage kinda lost its way hard. A friend compared it to X-Men: Apocalypse, which I like, so I'll go with that.

I'm still really down for the MCU grimdark tone and want more of it. Much prefer that than what's going on in the movies and ABC shows.

My rankings are:
Daredevil S1
Jessica Jones S1
Agents of SHIELD S2
Agent Carter S2
Daredevil S2
Luke Cage S1
Iron Fist S1
Agent Carter S1
Agents of SHIELD S3
Agents of SHIELD S1
 

mooncakes

Member
The budget on this seems like it was *incredibly* low compared to the others, they probably couldn't figure out any way to portray K'un-Lun.



.

If Arrow can at least show The League of Assassin's hideout with a hot tub, there is no excuse for them to not show Kun Lun.
 
This show is pretty bad. The acting is atrocious and some of the lines delivered are laughable. I will finish it more due to obligation for The Defenders.
 

Spuck-uk

Banned
I dont think Iron Fist is a better show than Luke Cage... but I finished IF, and Ive yet to finish Cage (Im on ep 8 IIRC), does that make sense? :/

Iron Fist starts terribly, and you keep watching in vain that it will get better.

Luke Cage peaks around episode 7, and steeply declines from there.
 
I don't really agree with the incredibly tough criticisms of this show. It has problems, with Danny being a less than convincing fighter being one. But some of it has become way too overblown.
 

hydruxo

Member
i'm laughing but it's so odd how much Iron Fist deviates from the Netflix Marvel mold. Unlike DD, JJ and LK, the Iron Fist is not an origin story. How hard would it have been to do one flashback episode properly grounding Danny's experiences and motivations?! FFS Elektra in DD season 2 was given a more in depth origin portrayal than Danny

And honestly Iron Fist is the only one that I was most intrigued about his origin story. Instead we get
a flashback of the plane crash and him sitting on the side of a fucking mountain 5 times in the first two episodes
.
 
I thought Ward's acting was fine for the character really, when you consider his personality and his problems. Especially (mid-late season spoilers)
during his more psycho parts after overdosing then detoxing/killing his dad for the first time.

Fundamentally I think it's more of a writing problem more than anything.
his acting in the beginning was straight up emotionless though. yes his character does start to get more interesting and we get a better performance out of it but overall the acting was not great. not for him, anyway.
 
Finally finished it. Has Colleen even injured anyone with that Katana? Was watching Into The Badlands yesterday and The Black Widow was wrecking shop with that thing. Gao and Colleen were the true highlights of the show.
 
How the fuck is Madame Gao a part of The Hand? It was never implied that she was part of it. And I thought The Hand was strictly Japanese? Why would The Chinese want to be part of it? And I just realized that Davos is the Steele Serpent in the comics, which is what Gao calls her heroin and is the symbol that Davos uses as Steele Serpent. Is Harold dead for good or what?
 

Aselith

Member
Music was good in of itself. But it's unfortunate the music didn't have a greater impact aside from being good songs. In Luke Cage the music almost went with the cinematography.

Guess the Outkast song could be an oxymoron!

Double Toasted Review is up!

The music at the end of episode 4 is very hype
 
Well, (end of show spoiler)
he gets cremated which would put wolverines healing factor to shame if he comes back from that

Nah, didn't Wolverine came back from nuclear explosions or something similar?

Anyway, this show is so shitty I don't think he's dead, they specifically said that you had to cut the head, like Stick did to Nobu. They could even use some phoenix motif to justify that.
 
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Deleted member 10571

Unconfirmed Member
Enjoyed it, and I actually liked the last few episodes a lot. So yeah, I'm good. Defenders, bring it on.

I also really liked Ward, his actor is great. Same with attourney lady which name I forgot sadly. And of course Colleen. Great cast, fun show.
 

KarmaCow

Member
How the fuck is Madame Gao a part of The Hand? It was never implied that she was part of it. And I thought The Hand was strictly Japanese? Why would The Chinese want to be part of it? And I just realized that Davos is the Steele Serpent in the comics, which is what Gao calls her heroin and is the symbol that Davos uses as Steele Serpent. Is Harold dead for good or what?

Series Spoilers

I figured The Hand was just a global cabal of evil people who like doing evil stuff. Nobu had his own shit with ninjas while Gao has her drug trade. I mean Bakuto is part of a South American branch, though I guess there's a throughline with Brazil having a significant Japanese community.

And yea, the Harold stuff was weird. They made a big deal about finding out how to actually kill him for good and then it's never actually used? Seems like such a waste to not have a good decapitation shot, even a goofy one where Danny punches off his head. I would say it's because they're teasing his return but then they had a scene about his cremation. But then they never actually show his burning body, so maybe it was just a body double and he's reviving elsewhere, who knows. I was kinda expecting that he would revive mid cremation when they had that zoom in shot to the fires.
 
Series Spoilers

I figured The Hand was just a global cabal of evil people who like doing evil stuff. Nobu had his own shit with ninjas while Gao has her drug trade. I mean Bakuto is part of a South American branch, though I guess there's a throughline with Brazil having a significant Japanese community.

And yea, the Harold stuff was weird. They made a big deal about finding out how to actually kill him for good and then it's never actually used? Seems like such a waste to not have a good decapitation shot, even a goofy one where Danny punches off his head. I would say it's because they're teasing his return but then they had a scene about his cremation. But then they never actually show his burning body, so maybe it was just a body double and he's reviving elsewhere, who knows. I was kinda expecting that he would revive mid cremation when they had that zoom in shot to the fires.
When did they imply that Bokuto was from South America? I know that The Hand is international in the comics but they're strictly on some ninja shit. I would of liked it if they kept it that way. Especially when they fucking went all out with it n DD S2. I also don't like how they tied Colleen to The Hand. In the comics, she actually leads them for a while.
 

KarmaCow

Member
When did they imply that Bokuto was from South America? I know that The Hand is international in the comics but they're strictly on some ninja shit. I would of liked it if they kept it that way. Especially when they fucking went all out with it n DD S2. I also don't like how they tied Colleen to The Hand. In the comics, she actually leads them for a while.

Forgot what episode but Joy was talking about how Bakuto was moving all the funds from Gao's account into his own accounts in South America.
 

Ladekabel

Member
What I don't get is that
shit is going down in New York but only one superhero shows up to save the day when there are two more available.
Why is that? I have a similiar problem with the movies.
 
Forgot what episode but Joy was talking about how Bakuto was moving all the funds from Gao's account into his own accounts in South America.

That doesn't mean he's from there, he might just be using some country to store his money, think Cayman Islands
 

KarmaCow

Member
That doesn't mean he's from there, he might just be using some country to store his money, think Cayman Islands

Series Spoilers just in case

Right but it seemed like an obvious nod to the comics to say South America rather than to simply say an offshore account.
 
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