TroicaBlur
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Sunset Overdrive 2. Cross play with PC.
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Honestly, what does Microsoft need to do with Scorpio to solidify your purchase?
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Chuck Norris
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It almost feels like a new console because nothing currently on Xbox One gives me any reason to own it. They have a lot to prove
th3sicknness
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If the XB1S didn't have HDR and 4k blu-ray I would have said that.
But it does, so really as it stands right now, nothing would convince me. Microsoft's exclusives are just too homogeneous. I like Rare's games (Sea of Thieves looks great), but the dude-bro games don't appeal to me. I also have a Pro, so multiplats I'll just get there (or on PC).
But it does, so really as it stands right now, nothing would convince me. Microsoft's exclusives are just too homogeneous. I like Rare's games (Sea of Thieves looks great), but the dude-bro games don't appeal to me. I also have a Pro, so multiplats I'll just get there (or on PC).
If you're new to the PS4, I would say getting the Pro is a no-brainer, but I guess is all depends on how much disposable income you have.
I would have thought that the bulk of sales of the Pro were to existing PS4 owners.
th3sicknness
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That is really the essence of the issue here because for it to be truly a success they have to cannibalize the existing market. So its growth is really going to be ALOT slower than what we saw with the xone / ps4.
Spencer has said the Scorpio is going to be a niche console for people who want the cutting edge and it isnt going to be cheap. So it is either going to be 400 to match the Pro... or it is going to be more expensive and priced at 500.
I would imagine people are going to be buying alot of ps4s or xones second hand once people start trading theirs in for the pro / scorpio.
Apoleptica
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Just give me good exclusive games. As someone with a capable pc my xbone is collecting dust.
Agent_ShortBus
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Same here. 👍
scoobs
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I don't feel like you understand what FreeSync technology is. Unless the Scorpio is a monitor, it won't have FreeSync.
As long as it has hardware support for HDMI 2.1 it will offer variable refresh rates once TVs start being produced that have this feature.
It needs to have hardware compatible from both sides.
scoobs
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Right and no TV's that I know of have this feature, or are going to have this feature any time soon. If you play your Xbox on a computer monitor it would be a nice feature to have for sure though. I would think that it would work.. the newer AMD cards all support it, but I guess I don't really know. Microsoft would have to add something to the settings to turn it on/off I guess, but its feasible.
Papacheeks
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It's not that it's screwing over developers, it's that I don't think it's a priority to them at the moment. Unless Sony straight up funds them regardless if it only take 3-4 people to make the performance changes on Pro. I'v yet to see outside of their first party studios like, GG, Naughty Dog, Sucker punch, and their contract with insomniac really put forth a big effort for the Pro.
And a lot of that was post launch for the system. Hell it has taken FFXV team along time as I called it out a long time ago to get a good Pro patch implemented. You would think if it was a big deal to developers like FF team they would have had it all ready from day one since they launched post Pro.
But that's not the case. Most Developers just want to get their games working in stable condition on base PS4.
Which is what we are seeing, we see post patch work, and nothing crazy out of a handful of studios and titles.
So people like myself and Colin Moriarty who were ridiculed in older threads last year were right in saying it's not something developers seem to be prioritizing, it's more of an after thought after final specs/build is done. And a lot of the Pro performance I'v seen latley are games running at native 1080p with locked frame rate. Like Nier, Yakuza. I don't here about post patches coming from Platinum games to have neir be 1440p with checkerboard upscale?
Horizon, Uncharted 4 seem to be the outliers since they are heavy engine developers when it comes to pushing pixel's and rock solid frames.
I guess this E3 will be the real test when Sony shows off their IP's.
Not saying Scorpio will follow the exact pattern, but depending on how it scales games I don't see it being something unless there's money behind it from MS that they prioritize in development.
SprachBrooks
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Nothing. Microsoft offers nothing that would compel me to purchase an Xbone. Their exclusives are shite and not system sellers at all; they don't have any vision for first-party support mainly because they clearly just bankrolled third-party games during the 360 generation.
If and when Microsoft and Sony proceed with their new gen consoles (if there are such a thing still) then I'll have a look at what Microsoft has to offer.
If and when Microsoft and Sony proceed with their new gen consoles (if there are such a thing still) then I'll have a look at what Microsoft has to offer.
apieceofstrange
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Scorpio might be the first console I won't be buying day 1 in a long time.
XB1 has been the weakest console by far in terms of exclusives. Play Anywhere has made owning the console somewhat redundant for the few exclusives I have been interested in.
A sequel to Sunset Overdrive would probably bring me back, but only if I can't play it on PC.
Bottom line is they need to bring more interesting games to the table. The Halo, Gears, and Forza series are not doing much for me anymore.
XB1 has been the weakest console by far in terms of exclusives. Play Anywhere has made owning the console somewhat redundant for the few exclusives I have been interested in.
A sequel to Sunset Overdrive would probably bring me back, but only if I can't play it on PC.
Bottom line is they need to bring more interesting games to the table. The Halo, Gears, and Forza series are not doing much for me anymore.
Latvian Hitman
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I think this is a really good question from the OP. In my case, because I already have a pretty high-end gaming rig to go alongside my PS4 Pro, I'm not sure there's much MS can do to sell me on Scorpio. Sony's ecosystem has slingshotted ahead of MS's this gen, and their library of exclusives is simply on another level.
I can understand MS's attraction to the idea of offering all their 1st party stuff on Windows alongside the Xbox platform, but it actually makes Xbox hardware irrelevant for people like myself.
I can understand MS's attraction to the idea of offering all their 1st party stuff on Windows alongside the Xbox platform, but it actually makes Xbox hardware irrelevant for people like myself.
arturo2666
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I'm not really interested in any of Microsoft's first-party offerings from the last 5 years or so, so I think they would need to secure some third-party exclusives that I give a shit about...Elder Scrolls maybe? Even if they got a first-year timed exclusive, that would probably put it into consideration for me.
The Abominable Snowman
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With Game Pass, they would need to have a fuck up of monumental >$499 proportion to make me not want to upgrade to Scorpio. That service is such a gem.
Personally, if they dropped online play from Xbox Gold and made that available to all, that would definitely make me jump ship. Business wise, I realise that's a pipe dream, but certainly having the knowledge I won't pay for online, that makes the Scorpio a much more difficult proposal.
It almost certainly won't have hardware support for HDMI 2.1. At the physical layer the changes are quite demanding and are most relevant for resolutions above 4K. Whatever Scorpio may be, I think it's safe to assume it's not an 8K gaming machine.
Thankfully sticking with HDMI 2.0a hardware doesn't preclude variable refresh rate. It's a feature that works just fine within the existing bandwidth constraints, and it's attractive enough for gaming that I have high hopes both Microsoft and Sony jump on board with support in existing hardware once compatible displays start to appear.
ChaosZeroX
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First party games that aren't the trio. (Forza, Gears, Halo)
Hippopuncher12
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Exclusives. Not Scorpio specifically, but Xbox exclusives. I sold my X1 a few months ago because it just didn't have anything I wanted to play that I couldn't play elsewhere. I am not asking for early years of the 360 levels of exclusives but come on. The X1 started pretty well with stuff like Sunset Overdrive, Ryse, Killer Instinct and so on. Anyway the hardware itself is largely irrelevant to me because if it has great games I will buy it no matter how many Flops it has.