Both tests reaching a locked framerate doesn't mean they matched the performance.
Both the Scorpio and a 1080 could run Super Mario Bros. at a locked 60, that doesn't mean they are equal, even if they got equal results in that test.
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Digital Foundry: Xbox Scorpio
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Both the Scorpio and a 1080 could run Super Mario Bros. at a locked 60, that doesn't mean they are equal, even if they got equal results in that test.
Papacheeks
Banned
Which doesn't fix the issues the xbox division has.
Gormenghast
Member
The 750Ti didn't exist when PS4 launched.
The Alpacalypse
Neo Member
Why would you put the power of eight Atari Jaguars in a console?
GhostTrick
Banned
Citation needed on that.
Because as I said, RX480 could run Forza Apex at 4k/60fps.
Samurai G0SU
Member
plus no mention about additional ram and a bit faster cpu too. yeah,. nah no difference will be shown between the twol LULzzz. feels bad for them
no, not really
I had no clue who those where until I Googled the first name...safe to assume all are porn actors?
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Wonder what articles and videos we get tomorrow. There will be new ones tomorrow m, right?
And then the wait starts for the reveal of the name, design, release date and price. Likely E3 after what Richard said.
And then the wait starts for the reveal of the name, design, release date and price. Likely E3 after what Richard said.
PowerThroughLov
Member
Hopefully this has and fully supports HDMI 2.1. Variable refresh rate please!
Primethius
Banned
I guess if the goal is to market it solely to the Xbox core with a bit extra, it's fine. But I don't think that's the case. That seems extremely silly in the current market.
2blackcats
Member
Or just 2 boxes.
LukasTaves
Member
BOTW grass would be sweet.
TheSpecialOne
Banned
Now it's the dx12 co processor, before it was the power of fp16 and before that it was the huma architecture. Like these fantasies need to stop.
wesleyshark
Banned
Anyone who expected otherwise was fooling themselves. This was all about the specs.
Ah yes. Stupid OG. Probably not technically feasible for the OG to read only 2 layers, and have the S and Scorpio able to access a third layer on the same disc.
Correct
They said it's comparable to 1070, and "The bottom line is that Scorpio's six teraflops will almost certainly go a lot further than an equivalent PC part. "
But that's not good huh?
Obliterator
Member
Ok and what does that have to do with Scorpio which was never designed to give MS this glorious comeback to win TEH CONZOLE WAR!
Scorpio exists to keep their core demographic invested in the platform and to continue to drive up ASP's and revenue.
LukasTaves
Member
But I already provided the link with what they are saying XD
Edit: In any case:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...pio-is-console-hardware-pushed-to-a-new-level
ah thats a terrible idea
I mean, MS has hyped this console as hell . A monster, a real beast. And at the end they offer a normal and 'human' upgrade. Can you really blame someone because it expected more massive improvement in the specs? It's all a MS pr fault. Though I perfectly expected such specs.
For the kind of product Scorpio is, literally could not disagree more. This is a piece of hardware for enthusiasts, and throwing all of the tech specs out into through wild through a very insightful and knowledgeable news outlet is much better than some sterile presentation from an executive spewing numbers that even he doesn't understand.
When did I say that Scorpio's performance wasn't good?
Alessandro
Member
Xbox 1070.
This is cool news, we're returning to roots like 360 was: a solid mid-high range hardware at a - hoping - fair price.
Dead rising 4k remaster would be nuts.
This is cool news, we're returning to roots like 360 was: a solid mid-high range hardware at a - hoping - fair price.
Dead rising 4k remaster would be nuts.
Papacheeks
Banned
It seems silly with the position they are in, and with them recently last year releasing really nice well designed console with some extra features. I thought that they would have held off on scorpio and make it a new gen to launch next year to get a heads up.
By that time it gave them time to get software in order somewhat and have them continue the good improvements they've made on the console and the OS.
Okami Haundo
Member
That's... not happening any time soon. SSD prices aren't falling fast enough and game sizes aren't exactly going down.
Are we expecting more details anytime soon? I've just been assuming that E3 will be the big reveal of the xbox, price, and release date right before they dive into games. Is there really much else that they can talk about before then?
thats not true for the Pro or the Scorpio
A 1070 can do Forza 6 @4K 60fps ultra 8xMSAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPAe3bi-oI
edit: I have a 1070 and played the game @4k 60fps
As for PS5 -- it will happen, but not soon.
I think rumors about PS5 will start circulating in 2019, not unlike how rumors Orbis (PS4's codename) started circulating in 2012.
Sony will call a PlayStation Meeting for December 3rd 2019, to both celebrate the PlayStation's 25th anniversary, and announce PS5 as a completely new console for a new generation. Mark Cerny will show us PS5 is over ten times more powerful than the original PS4 (and over 3 times more powerful than Scorpio) using a highly customized Zen+ APU, custom Navi GPU on a 2nd generation 7nm process and 64 GB HBM3, providing over 2 Terabytes/sec bandwidth. There will be a massive blowout at E3 2020 with release in November, about a week after the U.S. presidential election. PS5 will be powerful enough to combine native 4K, a huge leap in graphical fidelity and much more dynamic worlds thanks to Zen, HBM3 and much faster SSD storage technology that AMD is already combining with Vega technology on the Radeon SSG / 1TB SSD.
TheSpecialOne
Banned
The 7870 is more powerful than the 750ti.
Which article is that? That's incredibly impressive.
papersleeves
Member
Edit: out of context
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Not a chance.
MS are all about software and services, and moneys earned on stock Xbone are as good as on Scorpio. The more competitively they price Scorpio against their existing box, the more they are encouraging cannibalization of their own sales as much as their competitors.
The big question is how badly will current Xbone sales suffer now that they are promoting its big brother? PS4 definitely suffered a downturn between Pro being announced and released, and I'd expect an even more severe effect on Xbone S due to the larger performance differential.
The reality is that even now basic PS4 is handily outselling Pro in every global market, demonstrating the importance of price point over technical capability. So unless MS are prepared to completely remove Xbone S from the marketplace, taking a hit on RRP for Scorpio is always going to be a no-win situation.
I'm not ok with the term "porn actors". Female artists sounds waaay better.
The OG PS4 saved you back in 2013 when you could simply replace the hard drive in 10 minutes if you wanted an SSD.
Learning reading comprehension is beneficial.
Whats not serious about Forza , Halo , Gears of War and Crackdown?
RowdyReverb
Member
Glad to see they kept HDMI in
Somethings gotta give, HDDs will be a major bottleneck going forward. I could see prices going down if one of the major players buys up a huge stock of 500gb solid drives.
Or, at least just support the damn things lol
I've had an SSD in my PS4 since 2014, trust me it's negligible in some cases, and there's no difference in other cases