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Star Wars |OT| I have a very good feeling about this...

I get the feeling that by IX the overarching conflict framing the stories will be very, very different from what we've seen so far in the core Star Wars universe. Don't expect it all to progress to a RotJ-like finale resulting in a massive battle between the Resistance/Republic and the First Order.

Which is (one of many reasons) why it was a good thing to start the story arc off with a familiar background conflict.
 
I get the feeling that by IX the overarching conflict framing the stories will be very, very different from what we've seen so far in the core Star Wars universe. Don't expect it all to progress to a RotJ-like finale resulting in a massive battle between the Resistance/Republic and the First Order.

Which is (one of many reasons) why it was a good thing to start the story arc off with a familiar background conflict.

Until that announcement a little while back that there would be a gap of several years between trilogies I was kind of expecting 9 to finish in a cliffhanger just to illustrate that point.
 
I figured as much, but I wasn't sure they'd continue down this linear path forever. Maybe explore different timelines or parts of the universe etc.

Well, they are going to do side movies and explore other parts of the universe - that's the whole point of the anthology films. But I don't think the Skywalker Saga will ever completely go away. There will always eventually been another chapter in that story.
 
Still feel like having Star Wars always be about Skywalker's is a mistake. There's really only so much you can do with one fairly small family and I feel like it's a waste of the universe to do so. It's done well In the St but I'm not sure how many more stories they can tell down the line without it feeling forced or unnecessary.
 
Still feel like having Star Wars always be about Skywalker's is a mistake. There's really only so much you can do with one fairly small family and I feel like it's a waste of the universe to do so. It's done well In the St but I'm not sure how many more stories they can tell down the line without it feeling forced or unnecessary.

Unless the between-trilogy hiatus they talked about is a full-franchise hiatus (which is unlikely as hell), eventually the side-films will outnumber the Saga films. And even during Saga trilogies it's going to be 1:1 with side stories, since they're still every-other-year. So there's going to be a lot of outward growth and universe exploration, especially when they get stuff like Han Solo and whatnot out of their system and start doing more universe deep-dives. It's not like everything we see will be stuck in this narrow slice of the universe and never see anything that never crossed paths with a Skywalker.

As far as the Saga goes, the thing is, what else do you do for future episodes if not the continuing of the Skywalker story? The universe is always going to need some sort of central story that grounds it in some place. You need that core thread in between all of the dozens of side stories, some continually stretching path that everyone can follow, that gives you this focal point in the middle of the ever-expanding galaxy. And I don't think that path can suddenly jump tracks and now suddenly X-XII are actually just "New Story I-III Set Chronologically after the Last Three" either. I also disagree that it's impossible to keep the story fresh, interesting, and un-forced just because a Skywalker has to be part of it. There's always another angle to take.
 

GAMEPROFF

Banned
They can just look at the Legecy stuff. I havent read any of these far future of the Star Wars Universe Comics yet, but wasnt there a descendent of Luke Skywalker about 100 years in the future, who willingfull abonded the way of the force and became a bounty hunter? There are always possibilities like that.
 

Malyse

Member
Thrawn spoilers re episode 10 and on
this book is basically saying ol100% that there's some other evil out there much bigger than the Galactic Empire, so I doubt the first order wins in the end.
 
Unless the between-trilogy hiatus they talked about is a full-franchise hiatus (which is unlikely as hell), eventually the side-films will outnumber the Saga films. And even during Saga trilogies it's going to be 1:1 with side stories, since they're still every-other-year. So there's going to be a lot of outward growth and universe exploration, especially when they get stuff like Han Solo and whatnot out of their system and start doing more universe deep-dives. It's not like everything we see will be stuck in this narrow slice of the universe and never see anything that never crossed paths with a Skywalker.

As far as the Saga goes, the thing is, what else do you do for future episodes if not the continuing of the Skywalker story? The universe is always going to need some sort of central story that grounds it in some place. You need that core thread in between all of the dozens of side stories, some continually stretching path that everyone can follow, that gives you this focal point in the middle of the ever-expanding galaxy. And I don't think that path can suddenly jump tracks and now suddenly X-XII are actually just "New Story I-III Set Chronologically after the Last Three" either. I also disagree that it's impossible to keep the story fresh, interesting, and un-forced just because a Skywalker has to be part of it. There's always another angle to take.

They can just look at the Legecy stuff. I havent read any of these far future of the Star Wars Universe Comics yet, but wasnt there a descendent of Luke Skywalker about 100 years in the future, who willingfull abonded the way of the force and became a bounty hunter? There are always possibilities like that.

I guess that's fair, but ever going down the family tree because everyone on it is super special and the galaxy will ever revolve around them, or at least all major events seems kind of boring to me, but that's based on assumption so we'll see where all that goes.
 
y'know i'm not really sure that triumph is a certainty this time out, there will be minor victories at the end of ep.9 for sure but its just as likely that the first order will become the second galactic empire ready for eps.10-12..

In the spirit of the original movies, 10-12 will be prequels set in the Old Republic
starring Jolee Bindo.
 

Lmo911

Member
So if Rey doesn't end up being Luke's kid and the eventual story beat seems to be to kill Kylo as oppose to redeem him... are we just going to pull an Anakin from here on out to get more Skywalkers? Does it pretty much become a title instead of a bloodline?
 
So I know this is kinda old news by this point, but I was looking at some online reactions to Forces of Destiny, and watching presumably grown men lose their shit over a girls cartoon existing is...something
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
So I know this is kinda old news by this point, but I was looking at some online reactions to Forces of Destiny, and watching presumably grown men lose their shit over a girls cartoon existing is...something

Every main character from now on should be female just to make them mad.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
This would b hilarious.

Relevant

If you replaced all those comments with women complaining about male leads, the same people would be calling them triggered and pointing out how crazy they are.

They're exactly what they hate, too bad they lack any self awareness and can't see how fucking dumb they are.
 

Boke1879

Member
Hahaha yep.

The trailer for The Last Jedi also has its fair share of these fucks in the comments section.

It's so satisfying knowing they are truly in the minority and their voices are getting drowned out.

Sure you see them complain online but when these movies are making a shit ton of money and moving merch and bringing in all sorts of other mediums into the fold. A sight to see.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Boycott TFA!

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Oh
 

Sayers

Member
What exactly is Forces of Destiny anyway? Is it a bunch of mini stories each starring a different character or is it like a non canon mash up where they all go go-karting together?
 

curb

Banned
What exactly is Forces of Destiny anyway? Is it a bunch of mini stories each starring a different character or is it like a non canon mash up where they all go go-karting together?

The former. A bunch of canon shorts following different characters that will appear online in the summer and then get shown as a collection on a Disney channel in the fall. Also, a toy line.
 

SpaceWolf

Banned
Every main character from now on should be female just to make them mad.

To be honest, I can completely understand where these fans are coming from.

Now, hear me out here. I remember back when Star Wars: Episode 7 was first announced...way back in 2012. Man, I was so excited at the time. See, at that point, I had been a Star Wars fan at that point for almost as long as I could remember. I had many a happy memory playing with Star Wars toys as a child, making my own Star Wars movies in my own backyard with a beat-up camcorder whilst me and my friends pretended to be all the Star Wars regulars...Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Salacious B Crumb, Nute Gunray....and so many other classic Star Wars characters. So when production of Episode 7 officially kicked into gear, I would spend much of my day pouring over my computer, eager to learn anything I could about the brand new Star Wars motion picture.

But then, one day, the film's protagonist was announced. A character called Ray. And Ray looked like this:

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At first, I thought..."That actor they cast in the lead looks a little strange! Almost a little feminine!" And then I looked closer. And eventually, to my dawning horror....I realized they hadn't cast a male actor as the lead at all, but a female. A female. A female woman....as the main character, in this brand new Star War.

Now, needless to say, I am a male. I am a man and I have male reproductive organs. And through my extensive experiences spent outside in the real world, I have learned that females have different reproductive organs. And as a result, I have conclusively come to the conclusion that men are simply better than women. We just...we just make more sense than women, you know? We have penises...and they have...those other weird things. And as such, we deserve our Star Wars. The Star Wars are ours. They are our Wars, and we deserve them as our own personal treat for being men. That's just the way of the world and you cannot argue against it. You cannot, it is fact. Just look how phallic light-sabers are. Precisely.

Now, before you all start getting carried away...I am not a sexist. I love staring at the female stripper characters in GTA before beating their brains out with baseball bats, and I'm a big fan of a lot of female pornstars working out there, those crazy gals. And in movies, I think women work great as love interests. Hell, give em some supporting roles! But as protagonists...they just don't fit. Because they have....their bodies are different from ours. They're like people, only not, really. Like men, but with weird voices and breasts. I don't like that. I don't trust that, you know?

But being an open-minded guy, I eventually decided to give Rey a chance. And like everybody else, I watched Force Awakens in the cinema and I enjoyed it, the woman nonsense aside. And so, I thought that would be the end of the whole fad. A wild and crazy period in the annals of Star Wars history, soon to be resigned to the forgotten pages of Star Wars history. But then Rogue One came around. And I found out that the main character looked like this:

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Many people can often recall exactly where they were at the time of the 9/11 attacks...and likewise, many Star Wars fans like myself can remember exactly where they were when the first learned that Rogue One would be the second Star Wars film to feature a female. Personally, I was stationed in Pearl Harbour, huddled with the rest of my fellow Star Wars fans in a navy flotilla just off the coast of Hawaii. It was a time I won't soon forget. As soon as we learned of this terrible Star Wars related casting announcement over the radio wireless, myself and my fellow male comrades let out screams of anguish, as we vomited furiously over the decks of our ship out of sheer outrage and disgust, our Star Wars t-shirts forever stained by almost unending waves of putrid sick.

"Another woman!" we screamed. "A WOMAN!" Another so called "hero" who did not have a penis! How could we respect a woman who didn't have a penis? We couldn't! It was too big a paradox for us to comprehend. It was grotesque.

Star Wars, we quickly realized among ourselves, had been taken over. It had been hijacked. By women. Where had the good men gone, we asked ourselves. And where were all the gods? Where was the streetwise Hercules to fight the rising odds? Sure, there was Poe and Finn and Cassian and Luke and Han and Kylo and Krennic and Hux and Snoke....but there were now women now among them...women...like those man-eating, alien creatures that feasted on the brave, working men from The Mist.

But again, like any good Star Wars fan, I went to Rogue One. And I enjoyed that too, the woman nonsense aside. At least this woman died at the end, so there at least the balance was marginally restored, even if some female characters were still out there somewhere in the Star Wars universe...like the bugs in Starship Troopers, an unending threat to the very fabric of our invaluable sense of normalcy.

Then....it happened again. This year at Star Wars Celeberation, you'd better believe I turned up for the Star Wars Battlefront panel. Battlefront had always remained my absolutely favourite gaming series, and I couldn't wait for them to announce the sequel, which rumour had it was called Star Wars Battlefront 2. At the time, I was so upset and excited, and that very morning, you better believe I was first in line to get into that hall!

Finally, as the Battlefront panel started, and as the lights began to dim, the developers played the official trailer for everyone in the hall. And that's when we finally got a glimpse of Battlefront's new official protagonist!

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NO!

NO!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I stared at the screen, my mouth open, my eyes bulging, my shocked gaze fixed upon the unmistakably female face placed before me. A second later, I flung my Star Wars brand Wookie-Bite snack puffs at the screen as I started to scream like an enraged beast. Yet all around me, all the other Star Wars fans cheered! But I didn't cheer. I stood right up there in that conference room and started shouting. "BATTLEFRONT CAN'T HAVE A FEMALE PROTAGONIST! THIS ISN'T STAR WARS! HAVE YOU ALL GOT AMNESIA?! DISNEY CHEATED US! THIS ISN'T FAIR! OUR STAR WARS CANNOT HAVE ANOTHER COCK - A - DOODIE FEMALE!"

.....

And that's all I have to say about that.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
I'm so proud of you, fellow male. Finally someone had the courage to stand up against our oppressors.
 
So if Rey doesn't end up being Luke's kid and the eventual story beat seems to be to kill Kylo as oppose to redeem him... are we just going to pull an Anakin from here on out to get more Skywalkers? Does it pretty much become a title instead of a bloodline?
Someone actually brought up the fact that Kathleen only says the current trilogy will focus on Skywalker's.

Beyond that is fair game.
 
Catching up on the Clone Wars now, nearing the end of Season 4 and all of Savage/Asajj/Maul is getting too good.

I actually just finished clone wars last night, finale was great and Ventress is one of my favorite characters in star wars.

Don't forget to watch the 8 unfinished episodes and read Dark Disciple and the Son of Dathomir comics. The 8 episodes are comprised of two 4-episode arcs (Crystal Crisis On Utapau and The Bad Batch) and despite being incomplete, they are in fact still canon, and are available on both StarWars.com and YouTube. They're in animated story reel form, so basically extremely rough animations to guide the final animation, but all 8 episodes have fully completed voice acting. Dark Disciple (which is excellent by the way) was adapted from the scripts of two unproduced 4-episode story arcs (that were each one half of one 8-episode arc) about Asajj Ventress and Quinlan Vos. Son of Dathomir was adapted from another 4-episode Darth Maul story arc that takes place in-between the two halves of Dark Disciple.

Together that's another 20 episodes of Clone Wars, comprised of what would have been the second half of season 6 and the first half or so of season 7.
 
Now go read Dark Disciple.
I'm trying to grab Bloodline and Aftermath first
Though the reviews for aftermath seem pretty bad, but I already ordered it.
Don't forget to watch the 8 unfinished episodes and read Dark Disciple and the Son of Dathomir comics. The 8 episodes are comprised of two 4-episode arcs (Crystal Crisis On Utapau and The Bad Batch) are still canon, and are available on StarWars.com and YouTube. They're in animated story reel form, so basically extremely rough animations to guide the final animation, but all 8 episodes have fully completed voice acting. Dark Disciple was adapted from the scripts of two 4-episode story arcs about Asajj Ventress and Quinlan Vos that were never produced. Son of Dathomir was adapted from another 4-episode Darth Maul story arc that takes place in-between the two halves of Dark Disciple. Altogether it's basically Clone Wars Season 7.
Will do, thank you!
 
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