ah that's a good point. sony was smart by pumping the phyreengine out to folks since it kind of made people commit to the platform whether they wanted to or not.
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ah that's a good point. sony was smart by pumping the phyreengine out to folks since it kind of made people commit to the platform whether they wanted to or not.
I had more confidence in Kh3 before, but Switch has missed a few games i thought it wouldn't. So now I dunno. it'd sell better than on Xbox one which may help its chances but eh.
2017 is going to be a real wash. lots of folks didn't get dev kits until pretty late, which is why you're seeing ports of old games instead of late ports of recent titles. nights of azure 2 is an early surprise that bucks this trend, but even dragon quest xi is coming out sometime in the future.
once we're in 2018, the system should be getting more day and date games and kh3 should be one of them.
2020 you mean. jk KH3 actually should make 2018. I predicted it would be 2018 back in 2013 so I feel good about it.
Why were dev kits so late though?
i think everything about the switch points to nintendo wanting a fall 2017 launch but needing a march 2017 launch. late dev kits, missing features like browser, youtube/netflix/amazon go, virtual console, and the low expectations of sales (based on the lineup, probably) all seem like they were forced into their release date due to the wii u dying and telling shareholders nx would be ready by 2017.
Well, I can imagine a number of third parties which could have profited by releasing a major Switch game at launch. It's understandable why they didn't, but the end result is that Konami alone released a not terribly ambitious new Bomberman and has reaped the rewards of being the second or third game of choice for hungry new Switch owners.
One or both:
1. They want you to buy PS/DS version first and dip again later on Switch.
2. They can't make it on time.
My theory is
1.they want 3ds users to double dip
2.worldwide simultaneous launch for switch version.
Rakuten Books Sales Ranking Week 17, 2017 (Apr 24 - Apr 30)
01./00. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) - 1
02./00. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X <ADV> (Bandai Namco)
03./01. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia <SLG> (Nintendo)
04./03. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
05./04. [3DS] Monster Hunter Double Cross <ACT> (Capcom)
06./02. [3DS] Pro Baseball: Famista Climax <SPT> (Bandai Namco)
07./05. [PS4] Dark Souls III: The Fire Fades Edition <RPG> (From Software)
08./08. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo)
09./11. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix)
10./09. [3DS] Mario Sports Super Stars <SPT> (Nintendo)
11./07. [PSV] Dungeon Travelers 2-2 <RPG> (Aqua Plus)
12./12. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands <ADV> (Ubisoft)
13./16. [3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS <ACT> (Nintendo)
14./13. [WiiU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
15./21. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki <RPG> (Level 5)
16./00. [3DS] Cube Creator DX <ADV> (Arc System Works)
17./15. [NSW] Super Bomberman R <ACT> (Konami)
18./00. [PSV] Gun Gun Pixies <STG> (Compile Heart)
19./18. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 + II.5 ReMIX <RPG> (Square Enix)
20./14. [PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn <ADV> (Sony Interactive)
Rakuten Books Pre-Orders Ranking Week 17, 2017 (Apr 24 - Apr 30)
01./01. [3DS] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time <RPG> (Square Enix)
02./02. [PS4] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time <RPG> (Square Enix)
03./04. [PS4] New Hot Shots Golf <SPT> (Sony Interactive)
04./06. [3DS] The Great Ace Attorney 2: The Resolve of Ryūnosuke Naruhodō <ADV> (Capcom)
05./11. [PS4] Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age <RPG> (Square Enix)
06./13. [PS4] Tekken 7 <FTG> (Bandai Namco)
07./12. [NSW] ARMS <ACT> (Nintendo)
08./10. [PS4] Gundam Versus: Premium G (Sound Edition) <ACT> (Bandai Namco)
09./00. [PS4] Call of Duty: World War II <ACT> (Sony Interactive)
10./19. [PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana <RPG> (Nihon Falcom)
Rakuten Books Ranking Week 16, 2017 (Apr 17 - Apr 23)
***WARNING***
* Note: Games on the Rakuten Books Rankings are ONLY based on sales at Rakuten Books and does NOT count games sold by other retailers at Rakuten.
** Note 2: Games on the Pre-Orders Ranking are counted as net sales, so it might possibly affect the games listed on the Sales Ranking, since those sales are NOT added afterwards.
01./00. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) - 1
02./00. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X <ADV> (Bandai Namco)
03./01. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia <SLG> (Nintendo)
04./03. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
05./04. [3DS] Monster Hunter Double Cross <ACT> (Capcom)
06./02. [3DS] Pro Baseball: Famista Climax <SPT> (Bandai Namco)
07./05. [PS4] Dark Souls III: The Fire Fades Edition <RPG> (From Software)
08./08. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo)
09./11. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix)
10./09. [3DS] Mario Sports Super Stars <SPT> (Nintendo)
11./07. [PSV] Dungeon Travelers 2-2 <RPG> (Aqua Plus)
12./12. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands <ADV> (Ubisoft)
13./16. [3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS <ACT> (Nintendo)
14./13. [WiiU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
15./21. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki <RPG> (Level 5)
16./00. [3DS] Cube Creator DX <ADV> (Arc System Works)
17./15. [NSW] Super Bomberman R <ACT> (Konami)
18./00. [PSV] Gun Gun Pixies <STG> (Compile Heart)
19./18. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 + II.5 ReMIX <RPG> (Square Enix)
20./14. [PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn <ADV> (Sony Interactive)
Rakuten Books Pre-Orders Ranking Week 17, 2017 (Apr 24 - Apr 30)
01./01. [3DS] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time <RPG> (Square Enix)
02./02. [PS4] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time <RPG> (Square Enix)
03./04. [PS4] New Hot Shots Golf <SPT> (Sony Interactive)
04./06. [3DS] The Great Ace Attorney 2: The Resolve of Ryūnosuke Naruhodō <ADV> (Capcom)
05./11. [PS4] Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age <RPG> (Square Enix)
06./13. [PS4] Tekken 7 <FTG> (Bandai Namco)
07./12. [NSW] ARMS <ACT> (Nintendo)
08./10. [PS4] Gundam Versus: Premium G (Sound Edition) <ACT> (Bandai Namco)
09./00. [PS4] Call of Duty: World War II <ACT> (Sony Interactive)
10./19. [PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana <RPG> (Nihon Falcom)
Rakuten Books Ranking Week 16, 2017 (Apr 17 - Apr 23)
***WARNING***
* Note: Games on the Rakuten Books Rankings are ONLY based on sales at Rakuten Books and does NOT count games sold by other retailers at Rakuten.
** Note 2: Games on the Pre-Orders Ranking are counted as net sales, so it might possibly affect the games listed on the Sales Ranking, since those sales are NOT added afterwards.
I still think a lot of people are sleeping on Skyrim for Switch. The remasters last year still sold gangbusters, and the promise of portable Skyrim will probably induce a lot of double-dipping. And in regards to Japan in particular, I could see it doing well since consoles and especially PC gaming are relatively unpopular, so it will be the first chance to play it for a lot of people.
If anything, I'd say they wanted a 2016 launch but hardware (and software) wasn't ready. We're still seeing how "hot off the presses" the hardware is to the point where they have to be very selective with hardware kits for development because they simply do not have the production stocked up. I think March was the end of it, and it came in as it came in even if their own internal studios may not have even had everything working yet because of said hardware delays (such as a front end on their browser, because it already exists, or other multimedia functionality).
But, ya, listening to people like Matt and others, it honestly hasn't sounded like it was not meant to come out now. It just so happens to have come out in such a way and under such circumstances so as to blow up unexpectedly, good buzz and Zelda basically becoming the zeitgeist for the better of a month were no small factors. Third parties were tepid, even the ones with kits, and Nintendo has been lagging in getting kits out fast to others if there is demand for them (I suspect Nintendo didn't even expect a lot of interest early on given their own modest predictions, and focused on indie/smaller partnerships with hardware, and things that have quick turn arounds like NIS porting Disgaea 5).
Square almost assuredly has had kits for ages (hell, we're mostly sure that SE was the leaked source of the kits going out in 2016 or whenever), their decisions with Switch DQXI are either due to wanting to maximize potential sales, or because they were rushed to actually finish the other two versions and had no time or resources to commit to the Switch before it even had a population. No one expected it to blow up out the door, and its not like SE wasn't committed at the onset. But getting DQXI up and running well AND not delaying the other two versions due to resource limitations/budgeting, is not the same as making a small project like Bomberman R and having it ready day-and-date.
Capcom, on the flip, has its head squarely up its own ass and missed the boat. Hell, Oregano was actually right that they had no plans at all and were sitting on their hands waiting. Which, I am told, is a great way to strike the iron while its hot.
8 X 11 Printer Paper
Member
I'm assuming COMG Splatoon 2 numbers are a bit inflated right now; due to the fact that no other place is taken pre-orders at the moment, so people are going to COMG to reserve the game. Not trying say the game won't sell a fuck-ton, just assuming this is whats helping to cause the extreme pre-order score this early on (I'll eat the crow if it comes, already ate crow thanks to Switch before (assumed Great Japan Launch, Goodish NA Launch and Bad EU launch)).
Makes sense
OrbitalBeard
Member
Double dipping? More like triple/quadruple dipping. I agree it'll probably be a pretty big hit on Switch.
Hero of Legend
Member
Looking at my thread asking if that was the right choice, it seemed to absolutely be the better choice for Nintendo.
Edit: BTW, I don't think the KH collections being made on Phyre Engine are prevented from being on Switch, since games on the engine have been on MS systems, such as Unravel.
Tsutaya's Ranking Week 17 2017
01./00. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo)
02./00. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games)
03./01. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia <SLG> (Nintendo)
04./05. [3DS] Monster Hunter Double Cross <ACT> (Capcom)
05./06. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
06./03. [PS4] Dark Souls III: The Fire Fades Edition <RPG> (From Software)
07./02. [3DS] Pro Baseball Famista Climax <SPT> (Bandai Namco Games)
08./08. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo)
09./00. [PSV] Gun Gun Pixies <STG> (Compile Heart)
10./10. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix)
11./00. [3DS] Cube Creator DX <ADV> (Arc System Works)
12./11. [3DS] Mario Sports Superstars <SPT> (Nintendo)
13./07. [PSV] Dungeon Travelers 2-2: The Maiden Who Fell into Darkness and the Book of Beginnings <RPG> (Aqua Plus)
14./12. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands <ADV> (Ubisoft)
15./09. [PS4] PaRappa the Rapper Remastered <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment)
16./15. [NSW] Super Bomberman R <ACT> (Konami)
17./13. [WIU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
18./00. [PSV] Tsuihou Senkyo <ADV> (Nippon Ichi Software)
19./04. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia [Limited Edition] <SLG> (Nintendo)
20./14. [PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment)
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Famista Climax is having stock problems at a lot of stores.
01./00. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo)
02./00. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games)
03./01. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia <SLG> (Nintendo)
04./05. [3DS] Monster Hunter Double Cross <ACT> (Capcom)
05./06. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
06./03. [PS4] Dark Souls III: The Fire Fades Edition <RPG> (From Software)
07./02. [3DS] Pro Baseball Famista Climax <SPT> (Bandai Namco Games)
08./08. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo)
09./00. [PSV] Gun Gun Pixies <STG> (Compile Heart)
10./10. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix)
11./00. [3DS] Cube Creator DX <ADV> (Arc System Works)
12./11. [3DS] Mario Sports Superstars <SPT> (Nintendo)
13./07. [PSV] Dungeon Travelers 2-2: The Maiden Who Fell into Darkness and the Book of Beginnings <RPG> (Aqua Plus)
14./12. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands <ADV> (Ubisoft)
15./09. [PS4] PaRappa the Rapper Remastered <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment)
16./15. [NSW] Super Bomberman R <ACT> (Konami)
17./13. [WIU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
18./00. [PSV] Tsuihou Senkyo <ADV> (Nippon Ichi Software)
19./04. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia [Limited Edition] <SLG> (Nintendo)
20./14. [PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment)
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Famista Climax is having stock problems at a lot of stores.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Hm, I know FFX / X-2 HD remaster was originally on Phyre Engine, but now that it's on PC I wonder why they never ported it elsewhere (XB1, or I guess now Switch).
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2017/04/170428_p05.html?i006=news
New Pokemon goods coming to Japan on May 20 titled "Look upon the stars". Subtle hint at the rumored Pokemon Stars!? Just merchandise!?
New Pokemon goods coming to Japan on May 20 titled "Look upon the stars". Subtle hint at the rumored Pokemon Stars!? Just merchandise!?
So buying!
Smiles and Cries
Member
at this point I would bet against Pokemon Switch being officially named Pokemon Stars
too many rumors out there.
Skullwaker
Member
I really hope the 3rd version of Sun/Moon isn't named Stars. It makes no sense, the Sun is a star. It should be called Pokemon Eclipse honestly, since that's a combination of the Sun and the Moon.
Dark Cloud
Member
I see people talking about KH and FF on Switch. Was there some new news or rumor? Or people just spitballing?
it doesn't need to be a combination. Yellow isn't the combination of Blue and Red. Same with Platinum, Emerald, Crystal. It just needs to fit in with the ongoing theme, which is currently a celestial one.
Skullwaker
Member
I didn't say it had to be a combination. I just said it would make more sense in this context. I'm sure there's other celestial names they could use that aren't synonymous with Sun or Moon.
Just to clarify, this isn't actually a big deal to me. I would just find it funny if it actually was named Stars. I'm going to buy it regardless what it's called, lol.
by now I really believe that Pokemon Stars is actually real after all.
Dark Cloud
Member
I think Pokemon Stars is just the codename and not the final name.
Who/what is Orgen?
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Another GAF user. Apparently he leaked Pokemon White / Black 2 back in the day and was very accurate. He mentioned something about a title coming to Switch that'll make GAF go crazy. FF7R would fit that bill probably.
Jawbreaker
Member
Someone who got something right once, years ago, and has been irrelevant since. That's what I've been told, anyway.
He correctly leaked Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 with the precise names months before the announcement. Recently he stated that he's heard of a Japanese UE4 game coming to Switch that will generate a "thread for the archives." The only title the fits the description is FF7R.
but why it has to be FF7R, maybe it's another big Japan UE4 game, a Bayonetta sequel for example
It's the fifth best seller game on Switch this week at Tsutaya's stores. Behind Bomberman but above Puyopuyo and DQH1-2.
http://store-tsutaya.tsite.jp/rank/game.html?r=W148
Platinum has their own internal engine for that. They've only ever used UE4 on Scalebound because Microsoft wants all their shit to use UE4, and we know how that ended.
Dark Cloud
Member
Bayonetta uses UE? But I do agree a Bayonetta 3 exclusive for Switch will cause a collapse on a certain group of people like Bayo 2 did.
It does not and will not.
I don't think a Bayo sequel would really fit the bill, given it already happening means that people won't really be as shocked if it turns out Nintendo funded another one.
Shenmue 3 would fit that bill as well.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
There was more to that, capcom was porting all RE games to the wii, which by itself was fine, but stuck out like a sore thumb when we knew RE5 was coming, so capcom decided to release these "test games" and say if these games sold, they will make a mainline or atleast a "real" RE game on the wii, capcom did this 3 times, with a RE4 port and a lightgun shooter, both times they sold over a million, capcom then.....released another light gun shooter caled umbrella chronicles, now the game itself was high production, and was even somewhat of a REmake 2, with really nice graphics for wii...but thats not what we wanted, and the sales responded in kind.
Smiles and Cries
Member
NeoGAF would not react badly unless it was Switch exclusive
You're giving people way too much credit
FFVIIR would be more glorious tho, having it on a cartridge format is more than enough to have a 300+ thread heh.
Considering how people in the media create threads reacted to even the mere suggestion, I think it would be a thread for the archives.
Textbook definition of ironic.
Have you not seen the responses when someone even dares to suggest FF7R coming to the Switch?
Jon Carter
Member
Lol, it would almost be worth buying just for the irony.