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Spider-Man 3.1 (New cut supervised by Sam Raimi) included in Japanese SM Trilogy Set
- Thread starter TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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What's the deal with this guy talking so fast?
Darth Pinche
Member
Definitely watch 2. It is very good. You can watch 3 later, knowing it is a farce. if you watch it with the knowledge that Raimi was forced to add Venom etc, the craziness in it as a fuck you to the studio is great. But as a film itself, it is nowhere near the others in quality.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
2 is The Greatest Comic Book Film of All Time.
3 is divisive, so I'd give it a chance just to see where you fall with it.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Its a shame that things didn't work out with the studio.
Its not like he could've not brought Venom back. There's no eternal lasting death in comic books and by extension no true death in comic book movies. I only mention that because some people were angry that they "killed off" Venom. Yea right.
Its not like he could've not brought Venom back. There's no eternal lasting death in comic books and by extension no true death in comic book movies. I only mention that because some people were angry that they "killed off" Venom. Yea right.
You like the first one? Sure, go ahead
I believe there is a 4K release of the Raimi trilogy coming out in June.
What the hell man WATCH 2
If you think of 3 as some alternate-universe farce, it's highly entertaining. It was a soul crushing disappointment coming off the first two though
And yet it's still leagues ahead of the reboots.
Wait, is that what happened? That'd explain a lot.
I'd love to read some info on that if it's around the internet somewhere.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I'd also like to argue Chipman's point that J. Jonah Jameson as played by JK Simmons is the best possible page-to-screen translation of a character.
Shelley Duvall as Olive Oyl beats it.
Shelley Duvall as Olive Oyl beats it.
SolidChamp
Banned
Think it has something to do with the fact that Alvin Sargent was the sole screenwriter for SM2, and then you have Sam & Ivan Raimi AND Alvin Sargent writing SM3? Also add-in the fact that Avi Arad was basically leaning over Raimi's shoulder saying "You gonna put Venom in? You should put Venom in. I know you don't like Venom but everyone else does. Just think about it...no but seriously, you're putting Venom in."
Too many cooks in the kitchen.
Or just one bad cook that was in charge of all of the other ones.
kunonabi
Member
This should be an undisputed fact.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Bernard is definitely the WOAT, but given Alfred's total 180 in TDKR, I wouldn't cut him so much slack.
In TDK, Bruce is fucking beaten down emotionally and just wants to give it all up. It's not worth it anymore. But no, Alfred burns the letter, and convinces Bruce 'THAT'S THE POINT OF BATMAN, IT'S WOT WE STAND FOR, NOW PICK YASELF UP, THIS IS WOT RACHEL WOOD'AV WANTED'
Cut to TDKR: Bruce is all about picking up Batman, and Alfred reveals exactly what Rachel said and is now all ' RACHEL WOULDN'T 'AV WANTED THIS, I NEVAH WANTED THIS FER YOU, I JUST WANTED YOU TO 'AV A NORMAL LIFE FULL 'O CAFES AND NODS AND CHEAP SET UPS AND PAY OFFS!'
God, TDKR is such a piece of shit.
Nerdkiller
Membeur
Clearly, you've never seen his reviews during his time at The Escapist if you consider that video too fast.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Topher Grace as Venom was probably my favorite part of Spider-Man 3. Sandman has a great CGI birth scene, which Eddie Brock's Venom does too, and then a bunch of awful weird plot stuff
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I don't understand why people want Venom as the one removed. Sam Raimi was wrong. What is a Spider-Man/Sandman movie even about, if you remove that dumb plot twist? Bah.
tying him in as Uncle Ben's true killer
I don't understand why people want Venom as the one removed. Sam Raimi was wrong. What is a Spider-Man/Sandman movie even about, if you remove that dumb plot twist? Bah.
Don't forget the Harry Osborne amnesia subplot that was totally necessary.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
I didn't hate it. Might have worked without the Sandman minutes wasted.
That said, I had totally and completely forgotten it, so yeah maybe not so necessary after all. Goblin Jr I was down for, but I wanted the Hobgoblin outfit, not so much snowboard goblin.
I think what would have helped that movie the most is if they marketed it as a Green Goblin/Sandman movie then ended it with Brock getting the suit, setting up the next movie to be Venom.
You wouldn't need to change much about the plot. Have Peter go through his arc with the black suit (my favorite part of the movie), deal with Harry and Sandman then close with the Symbiote finding Brock.
Marketing it as a Venom movie is the worst thing they could have done for it.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
I blame Bobby for putting the idea in my head of Charlie de Lauzirika making a documentary about the problems with the film. I now want that so bad.
And to hope in ten years or so he makes a post mortem of the issues DC has had with launching a connected cinematic universe.
And to hope in ten years or so he makes a post mortem of the issues DC has had with launching a connected cinematic universe.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
I'm not sure how well 2 holds up but at the time it was the GOAT, so it's well worth a watch. 3 is basically an unfocused mess, probably again worth the watch just to see how it eds on such a bad note.
And then he finishes that delicious pie
Discotheque
Banned
I heard it was so good.
3 is not "divisive".
It's awful. Now if you enjoy "so bad it's good" movies, then it's a great experience, but that doesn't magically make up for the film's quality.
At the time 2 was highly, highly regarded. Most loved it, myself included. Been curious to revisit it myself but I don't expect it to have aged well. Solid cheeky entertainment and a great follow-up to the first all the same.
3 is definitely worth a watch, it has a lot of problems(prime example of insane studio/creative interference), so expect as much going in. The movie has survived so long off gifs for good reason though, especially on GAF. Expectations in 2007 were insane for this film(it was the BvS of that era), which led to extreme backlash. Never felt it reached near the depths of real comic movie trash though. There is entertainment to be had both ironically and unironically.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
I don't know maybe if Sandman maimed Aunt May or something to activate the rage, that would work. I really didn't like the
Uncle Ben
DerZuhälter
Member
8 years passed. Bruce is gassed and walking around with a cane. People can change their mind.
OfTheOverflow
Member
Man, I was stoked when I was able to get Spiderman 2 on PSP for free at launch by just submitting a form in the post. Jesus Spiderman 3 was such a nightmare lmao.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Back in 2007 I didn't think it was that bad, I watched the trilogy again recently and S3 is legitimately terrible. Tbh I realised I don't like the first two anymore either, probably the most irritating cast I have ever seen. Emma Stone, Andrew Garfield and even Sally Field were massive upgrades.
Why was every character in the film at Harry's funeral? Most of them didn't even know him. His explosive amnesia was hilarious.
Why was every character in the film at Harry's funeral? Most of them didn't even know him. His explosive amnesia was hilarious.
SolidChamp
Banned
"This is your uncle's ACTUAL killer."
I still can't believe that's a line they used to retcon the Uncle Ben stuff from the first one. Like, jesus, how lazy do you have to be?
Also, Thomas Hayden Church was fucking awful in this movie.
I still can't believe that's a line they used to retcon the Uncle Ben stuff from the first one. Like, jesus, how lazy do you have to be?
Also, Thomas Hayden Church was fucking awful in this movie.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
Nope. This is all fake news.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Like I said, I used to love them but they did not age well. Perhaps watching them back to back wasn't the greatest idea. By the end of the second one I was praying MJ would die even though I knew she didn't.
Also, at the end of the train scene after Spiderman is unmasked, someone shouts out in surprise 'He's just a kid'. Even though it was clearly a man in his 30's. Very strange.
Dunno why the title was edited earlier, but it's definitely not a "typo" of any sort. The Amazon Japan listing is very detailed and specifically says Spider-man 3.1 is a new edit supervised by Sam Raimi himself. It's the headliner for the special features on disc 4. Mentioned multiple times in the listing and has a runtime. How do you typo that?
It's 2 minutes shorter than the current cut though.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
So... there is a new cut, we're just not getting it?
Everyone should be getting it, it's just the Japanese listing that is the most detailed so far. Sony Japan might have jumped the gun.
To be fair they might have got that just by tightening up the editing on some of the action scenes and jokes rather than cutting a tonne of content.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
Everyone should be getting it, it's just the Japanese listing that is the most detailed so far. Sony Japan might have jumped the gun.
Oh lovely.
Sure, I'm just pointing out that it's not a case of them just adding more scenes on top of the existing cut, because that would result in a longer runtime.
