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[iammeiam]

EU guy with 180ms ping; not clipping in housing districts, clipping in instances.

Combine that with the reports of people getting clipping that vanishes when they pick use PingZapper, and it seems like there's hope yet for routing issues getting cleared as things propagate and performance improvements over the next couple of days.

Yes, they did a dumb thing, but there's a bizarre amount of conflicting data on how many dumb points they earned.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

EU guy with 180ms ping; not clipping in housing districts, clipping in instances.

Combine that with the reports of people getting clipping that vanishes when they pick use PingZapper, and it seems like there's hope yet for routing issues getting cleared as things propagate and performance improvements over the next couple of days.

Yes, they did a dumb thing, but there's a bizarre amount of conflicting data on how many dumb points they earned.

I wonder if is a matter of different tick rates between instances, usually latency don't tell the whoke story.

 

[demonkaze]

If any Europeans are interested in transferring over to Phoenix, me and two of my friends made the jump a couple weeks ago and have set a FC up on there. Anybody is free to join, just send a message to Kaelian Serina in game.

 

[dragn]

are they changing the msq rewards on addon release again? i played the first 2-3 months of heavensward and only have 190 gear

 

[IMBored]

are they changing the msq rewards on addon release again? i played the first 2-3 months of heavensward and only have 190 gear

You can probably buy lv250-260 gear at the start of it, like we could buy 120 gear in the beginning of heavenward.

 

[Thorgal]

Change it so you can use only one oGCD between skills.

Reduce GCD to 2 seconds base.

Monk players:

Honestly, having monk Gcd that fast without buffs would make me love the job even more.

Just cut the Tp cost in half and we are set

 

[Caelestis]

Do we know yet where the new server is located?

 

[IMBored]

Do we know yet where the new server is located?

California.

 

[Omnicent]

I'm getting around the same ping as before (65ms-70ms), but less packet drops. I'm good to go, so now time to prep my SAM gear. I main MNK, so I just need the weapon (I had everything, but then I went and got an axe for my WAR).

 

[Sorian]

I'm selfish so I enjoy my new 34ms.

 

[Stone Ocean]

EU guy with 180ms ping; not clipping in housing districts, clipping in instances.

Combine that with the reports of people getting clipping that vanishes when they pick use PingZapper, and it seems like there's hope yet for routing issues getting cleared as things propagate and performance improvements over the next couple of days.

Yes, they did a dumb thing, but there's a bizarre amount of conflicting data on how many dumb points they earned.

Well, a top percentile friend of mine got 230ms without VPN but he said he didn't feel much of a difference as far as actions are concerned so maybe I'll give this piece of crap a try, maybe try out PingZapper since that's cheaper than WTFast, see how it goes.

 

[SliceSabre]

Oh wow us on Balmung are a closed server. Damn, I always knew our population was high but I didn't think it was problematic high.

 

[Thorgal]

Oh wow us on Balmung are a closed server. Damn, I always knew our population was high but I didn't think it was problematic high.

You are literally in the most packed server in all of NA

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Going from a regular server and then to Gilgamesh or Balmung was really eye opening. Especially Balmung, folks can never complain how the place feels empty.

 

[Kudo]

How long does the friend callback emails normally take?

 

[dramatis]

anyway that was on March 31th 2017 the same day i saw old post from gaffer about amazon deal ,so i bought it on PS4 digital code and made character on Ultros then later i found that my friend play on Ragnarok server ( same server name as FF11 heh) but he stopped playing since long time,i convinced him and two other (all family member) to play the game, so i made other character on Ragnarok.

and now we are 4 progressing slowly through story quest in hope to make it before Stormblood launch but we still on 2.0? we are close to The Ultimate Weapon quest
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Operation_Archon

and now I'm Bard lvl54 and i love the job ( i leveled all classes to 20~30 to see which one is for me)

The longest drag should be the patch quests (2.1 to 2.55), after that Heavensward is relatively filler-free.

I'm not sure how frequently you're playing, but if you guys do nothing but main scenario quests, you should be able to make it to Stormblood before early access starts.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Nvm dream is dead, no amount of VPN will fix this garbage

I have better ping to fucking Japan

 

[Lavalamp1138]

Is it possible to check ping on PS4?

 

[Caelestis]

California.

This is trash. My connection was perfect before now it feels the same as when I play on a euro server.

Edit- Na ping 97, euro ping 105. Nice. Not sure if I want to raid with this. Always did 150ish DPS less on euro because cooldowns and skills wouldn't press fast enough.

 

[iammeiam]

Nvm dream is dead, no amount of VPN will fix this garbage

I have better ping to fucking Japan

Is it routing you through Amsterdam or is the tracert all logical hops? Because that's bullshit but is bullshit beyond the powers of mere geography from what I can tell.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Is it routing you through Amsterdam or is the tracert all logical hops? Because that's bullshit but is bullshit beyond the powers of mere geography from what I can tell.

Actually it seems that I get to Seattle fine and then it hops to fucking Spain and then goes all the way back through the east coast, what the FUCK is this routing

That explains how someone on reddit that played with Mudfish reduced his ping from 250 to 140

 

[IvorB]

So, they raised the gil limit for transfer. Okay, I am going to transfer to EU server I guess. I have been meaning to check out one of the EU servers for a while but the logistical complexity of transferring my gill completely defeated me. With this new limit I should be able to make the move smoothly as I am not super rich. It’s great being on Ultros with GAF FC but I feel like I should at least check it out in Euro land. I can always return if the grass is not that much greener.

Does this kick in only on Stormblood launch?

 

[iammeiam]

Actually it seems that I get to Seattle fine and then it hops to fucking Spain and then goes all the way back through the east coast, what the FUCK is this routing

That explains how someone on reddit that played with Mudfish reduced his ping from 250 to 140

Yeah that makes no sense at all--FWIW I live a little north of Seattle and am getting ~35-37ms to the servers now. So add that to the time it's taking you to get to Seattle and hopefully it's a more manageable.

We need some statements from the FFXIV staff giving us an idea of if they know there's routing stuff that needs to propagate, or what, because it's hard to split the inevitable downsides of the move from stuff that should be fixable.

 

[IonicSnake]

If anyone is moving to EU we got a few gaffers on Odin.

 

[Kinan]

Oh, God, 208ms for me from EU. Will try how it feels this evening, but the move to an EU server looks more and more appealing.

EDIT: Routing seems to be perfectly reasonable, getting across the pond add ~120ms and then getting across US adds another 80ms. Probably I will not be able to get out of AOE at all now. :/

 

[Stone Ocean]

Yeah that makes no sense at all--FWIW I live a little north of Seattle and am getting ~35-37ms to the servers now. So add that to the time it's taking you to get to Seattle and hopefully it's a more manageable.

We need some statements from the FFXIV staff giving us an idea of if they know there's routing stuff that needs to propagate, or what, because it's hard to split the inevitable downsides of the move from stuff that should be fixable.

If my signal went straight from Seattle to Sacramento then I'd have the exact same ping as I did to Montreal

 

[EndcatOmega]

I got 160 before and still get 160, I have no idea what's going on.

 

[iammeiam]

If my signal went straight from Seattle to Sacramento then I'd have the exact same ping as I did to Montreal

Hopefully they fix the routing, then. If they can get you to the same ping but more stable, it at least won't be game ruining.

I got 160 before and still get 160, I have no idea what's going on.

I assume that's the superpower you get for being a true disciple of Fracture.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Hopefully they fix the routing, then. If they can get you to the same ping but more stable, it at least won't be game ruining.

Same ping but without Level 3 would be a massive upgrade

 

[EndcatOmega]

Hopefully they fix the routing, then. If they can get you to the same ping but more stable, it at least won't be game ruining.



I assume that's the superpower you get for being a true disciple of Fracture.

Fracture likes earthquake country, makes sense really.

 

[Kalor]

I'm in the UK and am at around 185 now after being at 130 before. I'm still working my way through the leveling process so a larger ping won't matter for now but if I ever get into raiding it could be a problem.

 

[studyguy]

My ping is in the mid 30s.
Wew lads. WEST COAST BEST COAST.

Spoiler

Tested all last night, can't tell a lick of difference.

 

[UpsideDownAce]

Well, friend of mine was planning on transferring to Balmung, guess that's out the window. Also won't be able to invite anyone to play on the same server as me for a while!

 

[Stone Ocean]

Well, friend of mine was planning on transferring to Balmung, guess that's out the window. Also won't be able to invite anyone to play on the same server as me for a while!

Why not tell them to transfer to another Aether server and play with them using cross server PF?

 

[Haly]

Woops nevermind.

 

[Squishy3]

dragoon doesn't feel much different, but they don't need to double weave that often and never go below a 2.4s gcd anyway so.

rip east coast ninjas tho, mudra clipping's even more exacerbated.

Spoiler

just don't use huton

 

[Frumix]

Why not tell them to transfer to another Aether server and play with them using cross server PF?

Trade and participation in any content not queued for directly is impossible.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Yeah that makes no sense at all--FWIW I live a little north of Seattle and am getting ~35-37ms to the servers now. So add that to the time it's taking you to get to Seattle and hopefully it's a more manageable.

We need some statements from the FFXIV staff giving us an idea of if they know there's routing stuff that needs to propagate, or what, because it's hard to split the inevitable downsides of the move from stuff that should be fixable.

Squenix has no control of your routing to the server and never has

 

[IvorB]

If anyone is moving to EU we got a few gaffers on Odin.

Was thinking Odin actually. How is it?

 

[iammeiam]

Squenix has no control of your routing to the server and never has

I'm not sure what that has to do with what I said; an MMO should absolutely have staff educated to provide an estimate for their expected timeframes for everyone's routing tables to update. Not because they control it, but because knowing that sort of thing is kind of important and as we can see in Seattle to Spain to east coast bad routing is going to cause panic. Them saying nothing is not an option.

Anyone halfway paying attention knows the server move was literally because they couldn't control the level3 routing. That doesn't mean they haven't had internal discussions about how long they'd expect it to take for everyone's routing to sort out.

(They could also throw us a bone for the performance difference between housing zones and instances; and they know the routing panic from the EU move so where is our friendly advance FAQ.)

 

[UpsideDownAce]

Why not tell them to transfer to another Aether server and play with them using cross server PF?

Doing stuff in instances is only about half the content we do. The other half is stuff we would have to be on the same world for like maps, fishing and crafting.

 

[Meicyn]

Going from a regular server and then to Gilgamesh or Balmung was really eye opening. Especially Balmung, folks can never complain how the place feels empty.

I moved from Gilgamesh to Balmung and even that was a noticeable difference. Balmung is just insanely active.

 

[IonicSnake]

Was thinking Odin actually. How is it?

I like it here, very active server.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I'm not sure what that has to do with what I said; an MMO should absolutely have staff educated to provide an estimate for their expected timeframes for everyone's routing tables to update. Not because they control it, but because knowing that sort of thing is kind of important and as we can see in Seattle to Spain to east coast bad routing is going to cause panic. Them saying nothing is not an option.

Anyone halfway paying attention knows the server move was literally because they couldn't control the level3 routing. That doesn't mean they haven't had internal discussions about how long they'd expect it to take for everyone's routing to sort out.

(They could also throw us a bone for the performance difference between housing zones and instances; and they know the routing panic from the EU move so where is our friendly advance FAQ.)

How would they know how long it takes for routing changes to propagate through the Internet, or even if routing will change? That's not how the Internet works.

 

[Mister_Ruck]

The game feels exactly the same to me but I live in the middle of the country so no matter what it was gonna be fine. My heart goes out to all of you EU and east coast folks.

 

[Valonquar]

My ping to old server - 33ms
My ping to new server - 119ms
/wrists

I guess it isn't' all THAT bad, but I'm glad I got Firebird before all this nonsense. Hopefully routing tables will fix some of that in the coming weeks, or I'll have to actually look into WTFast or something :/

I do wish they would throw the east coast some love some freaking day. Fan fest needs to be over here one year or something.

 

[Heartfyre]

198ms to new NA servers, and 35ms to my current server, Ragnarok.

I feared this would happen. NA servers definitely cater to NA now.

 

[iammeiam]

How would they know how long it takes for routing changes to propagate through the Internet, or even if routing will change? That's not how the Internet works.

They made a change. Since they at this point have made no attempt to communicate that portions of the move would take longer to finalize everywhere (which, yes, they would know is likely to be an issue), people are flipping out thinking shittily routed ping is the new normal. This is a problem, especially combined with the prior "GUYS UNDER 220 IS TOTALLY FINE GUYS" statements, and the other bizarre latency and clipping things occurring internally in their system.

Even if we take the stance they couldn't provide any sort of rough timeline here--because averages don't exist and they never once discussed timelines and they didn't get feedback around this issue the last time they moved a datacenter and they didn't think of a boilerplate line ("give it 72 hours" followed by one of their favorite "report your issue" forum threads as a rough ballpark) to give their customer service reps when they inevitably receive calls because rerouting taking time is a given--saying nothing is still not a viable option because it lets people continue under the mistaken impression that the problem is California and likely permanent, and not ISP bullshit (that in many cases will prove temporary!) in between.

XIV is generally really bad at meaningful player communication; in this instance there's a bunch of bog standard stuff they could get out there to calm the masses down because they know these things take time and all the players know is stuff moved, life is awful, and SE said bad pings were fine so maybe this is the new normal.

 

[Frumix]

I get 190ms even with WTFast. Maybe routing will improve that but Cali is still far far far away from Eastern Europe.

Of course... what amazes me most is the community reaction to complaints.

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

I don't see what's "hardcore" about what I said.

Dumping a fun class for good because you can't achieve a theoretical Max dps potential.

there was a point I was close to caring this much and Im glad I didnt get there.