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Nintendo Switch paid online coming 2018 ($19.99 a year, Dr Mario w/ online play)

I pay 5 bucks a year for Pokemon Bank or whatever, so I'll most likely skip 2 lunches eating out and pay for a year of online.
 

Axass

Member
Thank God they noticed how stupid the monthly game idea was. Seems like now people will get to keep the games, PS+ style.

Also, more free online time, hooray!

Hope they change the "voice-chat" through smart device bit before launch too. Because that's super duper stupid as well.
 
I don't understand why some of you are demanding to have full access to every single NES, SNES, N64, GC, GB, GBC, and GBA game for $20 a year. I mean it should definitely be better than just a few NES games but some of you are fucking ridiculous.

Maybe Nintendo should do a MS/Sony and offer a few random indie games or 3 year old full price games that most people wouldn't have bought unless offered it for "free". The problem with that is that there's not enough depth to the release schedule and they'd likely have to end up offering people games that they actually would have bought.
 

Lylo

Member
To people who make ends meet, yes, it's means a lot to those people. To people who play videogames, it's not a lot of money. Gaming is a luxery, not a necessity.

Exactly. It's hard to imagine someone who has a Switch but it's too poor to spend US$ 20 a year.That's probably less than the average price of an indie game on Switch.
 
For Nintendo this plan makes sense. For those who never really bought or thought about VC, this gives them some games to try & Nintendo gets 20 bucks from all those people that they might not have ever gotten. Also, it's essentially advertising for games that aren't on the free slate. Now you might convert them into people who buy VC and / or indie games.

Then there are people who buy tons of VC anyway (me), and they are never going away.
 
Edit: Whoops, meant this for the other thread mainly. Oh well, it still applies.


Holy crap there's a lot of jumping to conclusions (on both sides) in this thread.

So far all we know is that the $20 a year subscription will get you game discounts and a growing library of online-enabled games, likely starting with just NES games. Remember, the old plan included SNES games too so I wouldn't be surprised if that's not too far behind the NES games (like 1-3 months in).

We know nothing else yet. There very well could be a traditional VC to go along with this, but this would likely be the only way to access the online enhanced classic games. Nothing about this suggests they will put their entire VC library behind the $20 service- it seems to suggest maybe 3 titles or so per month.

I actually think we'll hear a fair bit more about all of this at E3, they're likely just getting the general info out of the way before hand.
 

Shiggy

Member
Holy crap there's a lot of jumping to conclusions (on both sides) in this thread.

So far all we know is that the $20 a year subscription will get you game discounts and a growing library of online-enabled games, likely starting with just NES games. Remember, the old plan included SNES games too so I wouldn't be surprised if that's not too far behind the NES games (like 1-3 months in).

We know nothing else yet. There very well could be a traditional VC to go along with this, but this would likely be the only way to access the online enhanced classic games. Nothing about this suggests they will put their entire VC library behind the $20 service- it seems to suggest maybe 3 titles or so per month.

I actually think we'll hear a fair bit more about all of this at E3, they're likely just getting the general info out of the way before hand.

I think they put this out before E3 so that they don't need to talk about it at E3. Talking about their online feature set and the app will just create negative publicity when they want to have positive coverage about their games lineup.
 
I hope its traditional VC + a trickle of free games for the sub and not a complete lack of proper VC. Thinking about it more though, what better way to not have to address prior purchases on Wii + Wii U than to never make old VC games available the traditional way, only through a subscription with "enhanced online features" (think enhanced gamepad functionality). Please don't prove me right Nintendo.
 

Skronk

Banned
No complaints from me, the price is right and a selection of games to pick from is better than having to buy them separately again.
 
People expecting netflix style library are going to be very very disappointing. It's going to be like 5 games max

I agree that it won't start out as a Netflix style library, but it's sounding like it will be around 3 games a month. After a few years that'll be a decent sized library.
 

jholmes

Member
I agree that it won't start out as a Netflix style library, but it's sounding like it will be around 3 games a month. After a few years that'll be a decent sized library.

Why do you think that? What about Nintendo's handling of the Virtual Console over the last decade makes you optimistic?

Also if these games aren't playable offline, they'll be damn near useless if you're out of the house.
 

Skronk

Banned
Why do you think that? What about Nintendo's handling of the Virtual Console over the last decade makes you optimistic?

Also if these games aren't playable offline, they'll be damn near useless if you're out of the house.

Nintendo Switch Online includes ongoing access to a library of classic games you can take anywhere!

From Nintendo's tweet
 
Why do you think that? What about Nintendo's handling of the Virtual Console over the last decade makes you optimistic?

Also if these games aren't playable offline, they'll be damn near useless if you're out of the house.

First off this isn't the Virtual Console... This is a new thing for Nintendo, a paid online subscription. I'm honestly just reading the OP and the clarification PR and this is the only conclusion I can come to.

And where in the world are you getting that they won't be playable offline? This is a portable console, why would they restrict any of their games to online only?
 

jholmes

Member
Nintendo Switch Online includes ongoing access to a library of classic games you can take anywhere!

From Nintendo's tweet

Anywhere with Wi-Fi? Anywhere in your house? Who knows what "anywhere" means. I can't take the thing to the moon. How will the Switch know you're still subscribed if you're offline? Hell, what if the social media guy is just wrong?

Not saying they won't be downloadable but I am saying Nintendo's recent track record is not good and some of you in the thread are setting yourselves up for real disappointment.

First off this isn't the Virtual Console... This is a new thing for Nintendo, a paid online subscription. I'm honestly just reading the OP and the clarification PR and this is the only conclusion I can come to.

They have drip fed before and they will drip feed yet again.
 

Shiggy

Member
There's no indication that these games will not be playable when the Switch system is not connected to the internet.
 
In for basically only online access, which sucks because it's a TRASH policy that I hate and do not like even if Nintendo is doing it. But Nintendo games are primarily the ones I play online, so I'll be paying for this. Online-enabled VC games is cool and a nice bonus, and the price is very good.

Cloud saves need to happen now, and transferring saves via SD card needs to happen for non-subscribers IMMEDIATELY. Or some "system transfer" solution. It's insane that saves are stuck on a system. One of my only severe gripes with the current Switch situation.

There's no indication that these games will not be playable when the Switch system is not connected to the internet.

My guess (ugh E3 can't come soon enough please detail this shit) is that they're just typical downloadable titles but with the online functionality coded in. As far as I know Nintendo doesn't do the "online only" thing, but if they did/do, then fuck that completely.
 

The Boat

Member
I wouldn't be surprised and would in fact welcome, an extra fee for an actual Netflix style VC. This will never happen for 20 bucks.
 

boiled goose

good with gravy
I agree that it won't start out as a Netflix style library, but it's sounding like it will be around 3 games a month. After a few years that'll be a decent sized library.

I would be surprised if this is how it ends up working out.

They haven't said a few games will be added each month. It is going to be like 5 total for the entire life of system.

If more are made, they will rotate in and older ones will be sold separately.
 

Skronk

Banned
Anywhere with Wi-Fi? Anywhere in your house? Who knows what "anywhere" means. I can't take the thing to the moon. How will the Switch know you're still subscribed if you're offline? Hell, what if the social media guy is just wrong?

Not saying they won't be downloadable but I am saying Nintendo's recent track record is not good and some of you in the thread are setting yourselves up for real disappointment.

The same way my Switch knows I paid for Snipper Clips and let's me play it anywhere, even the moon.

You're jumping to baseless conclusions. It doesn't say anywhere you'll be streaming games, it'll be a download.
 

Zemm

Member
These MK8 errors with a wired connection are just ridiculous.

I literally can't even connect to online when using Wi-Fi when the router is around 20ft away, whereas every other device has no problems even when out in the back garden. No amount of work Nintendo does to their online service will fix the worst Wi-Fi chip ever causing issues for a lot of people.
 
I literally can't even connect to online when using Wi-Fi when the router is around 20ft away, whereas every other device has no problems even when out in the back garden. No amount of work Nintendo does to their online service will fix the worst Wi-Fi chip ever causing issues for a lot of people.

I had to purchase a Wi-Fi signal booster to fix that in my home. I get a great connection now, but it cost me an additional $60.
 

jholmes

Member
There's no indication that these games will not be playable when the Switch system is not connected to the internet.

There was no indication that Super Mario Run had to always be online before that launched, either.

The same way my Switch knows I paid for Snipper Clips and let's me play it anywhere, even the moon.

You're jumping to baseless conclusions. It doesn't say anywhere you'll be streaming games, it'll be a download.

Your SnipperClips purchase isn't tied to a limited-time subscription, nor is it a game with online functionality, which these NES games are.

And I'm not jumping to conclusions, I'm being skeptical. Nintendo has earned that.
 

Polygonal_Sprite

Gold Member
$20 per year is great imo especially given we're getting to keep the online enabled VC games as long as we subscribe.

It's amazing to me that there are now people complaining about getting the rest of the year free lol...
 

Kikorin

Member
Anyway, at the end of all, I think I'll have lot of fun playing Balloon Fight online, I only hope for online integration they mean online multiplayer and not online scoreboards.
 

FaintDeftone

Junior Member
So I'm confused. Is this stuff launching this year but will be free until 2018, or is the whole damn service in a nut shell not launching until 2018? They made it sound like you're getting a lot of these services this year for free.
 

Skronk

Banned
There was no indication that Super Mario Run had to always be online before that launched, either.



Your SnipperClips purchase isn't tied to a limited-time subscription, nor is it a game with online functionality, which these NES games are.

And I'm not jumping to conclusions, I'm being skeptical. Nintendo has earned that.

They can put a timer on the game and require you to connect to the online service to verify. They could even sort this out with the phone app.

I totally understand you being skeptical but the whole point of the Switch is the play anywhere part and I don't think they would go back on that.
 
I mean, s/he isn't wrong though.

I guess, in the sense that anyone could be not wrong making nearly any claim about this service as we know it now.

Nintendo isn't typically the kind of entity to use insanely absurd pedantics.

The only Nintendo game that is online-only that I'm aware of is Mario Run. It's an UNBELIVABLY shitty thing which I hate, but that's a phone game. It's a significant distinction.
 

jdmonmou

Member
$20 a year could be a good price if the VC library is good. Nintendo is still shady though for locking online play behind a paywall.
 

Ombala

Member
At 20$ a year I think it would have been smarter to have it be free.
Would give them an advantage to be the only console with free online.
 
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