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Capcom focused on Monster Hunter: World for West, won't commit to MH:XX localization

I would take a Vita version, heck even an N-Gage version. I just need it to be portable and to have local co-op. Everything else is secondary.

Not really a fan of the Vita's analogs, but yeah I feel about the same. I've followed the franchise from PS2 all the way to the 3DS. I just prefer playing on the go and nothing is better than meeting up for some hunting.
 
I can't trust the opinion of someone who doesn't hate the portable controls when compared to a real controller. My hand is still cramped from the MH Claw. :p
 

Thoraxes

Member
Not really a fan of the Vita's analogs, but yeah I feel about the same. I've followed the franchise from PS2 all the way to the 3DS. I just prefer playing on the go and nothing is better than meeting up for some hunting.

Most recently I played a lot of Generations with a co-worker (up to about 150 hours or so) after we both discovered we had the game, so we'd get together for our lunches and breaks every day to do hunts together. Since we work different shifts, but have a short overlap between our shifts, we were always able to play together. We won't be able to anymore with the newest entry, but are hopeful that they could announce a mainline MH5 after World so we can play together again.
 
Capcom is drooling at the exploding popularity of console MP-focused games. Monster Hunter on console is always something I love the most (that's why I think MH3U is the best MH). There is no doubt MHW will be amazing since the main team is going all in.
 
I don't particularly agree with this but some would say that consoles never really have had reliable local multiplayer (meaning that carrying the console is considered unreliable) and that playing online multiplayer with people you know in your life is practically the same thing. Thoughts?
 

Cuburt

Member
What's more reasonable, blindly believing portions of a rumor that is mostly false because I want to believe those untested parts of the rumour, or assuming it's crap after almost all of it (the parts that will ever be verifiable, anyway) is proven false?

All 3 posts were made by the same person.

You are acting as if MHW is a westernized non-MH game because of this rumor without actually following the updates on MHW that prove this rumor is false. On top of that, you're certain the real MH5 is coming to Switch because of the same rumor that only has ONE thing right: the name of MHXX.

But yeah, I'm unreasonable to doubt it.
You keep assuming how I'm thinking because I refuse to call the rumor false.

I just think it still has plausibility, especially since it's an anonymous rumor that hasn't nothing to gain (or lose) from throwing out info that they heard.

I don't believe every rumor I hear (from 4chan or otherwise) but if they get a detail right that is hard to randomly pull out of your ass, and seemingly knew there was a PS4 version of Monster Hunter despite me not hearing any whispers about such a thing previously, it could be true.

I tend to take the facts and make up my own mind and I'm not convinced you are more reasonable because you throw out everything because a few mistaken details. I'm not taking it as gospel, I'm saying it's plausible. You are the one who is so set on it all being a lie and a lucky guess, yet you somehow are certain all the rumors come from the same person.

I'm also far from "certain MH5 is coming to Switch", that's why I'm pissed since we haven't heard a single hint of such a thing, or at least I haven't. I was just saying that since World is not 5 and there is no MH5 that we've heard of yet, their rumor of MH Portable, could be the new 5, if such a thing exists. For all we know, MH5 could be coming to the 3DS if they even end up making a number 5.
 

Dynheart

Banned
It's nice that it will play like a traditional MH game, but I will still be disappointed it is not portable. I am still gonna buy it, just not now. Due to my lifestyle, I cannot sit in front of a TV for hours at a time, which made portable MH great. I suppose I can just play the same games I have been playing over the years, but not being able to play this on the go will always sting for me, as portability is what kept me playing the series.

For the record, I was there for the PS2 release. I still prefer to play these game on the go. I also do not want to invest in a platform i have no desire in owning (Vita) just for some remote play business.

At the end of the day, I will still buy World...just not at launch day. I will not be able to give the game the time it deserves.
 
I don't particularly agree with this but some would say that consoles never really have had reliable local multiplayer (meaning that carrying the console is considered unreliable) and that playing online multiplayer with people you know in your life is practically the same thing. Thoughts?

Playing online is not the same thing, at all. Having to depend on headsets, not being able to see/push/
kick
the people you're playing with, and most importantly, having to pay for a service to do it, make online mp completely inferior to local mp.
 
You keep assuming how I'm thinking because I refuse to call the rumor false.

I just think it still has plausibility, especially since it's an anonymous rumor that hasn't nothing to gain (or lose) from throwing out info that they heard.

I don't believe every rumor I hear (from 4chan or otherwise) but if they get a detail right that is hard to randomly pull out of your ass, and seemingly knew there was a PS4 version of Monster Hunter despite me not hearing any whispers about such a thing previously, it could be true.

I tend to take the facts and make up my own mind and I'm not convinced you are more reasonable because you throw out everything because a few mistaken details. I'm not taking it as gospel, I'm saying it's plausible. You are the one who is so set on it all being a lie and a lucky guess, yet you somehow are certain all the rumors come from the same person.

I'm also far from "certain MH5 is coming to Switch", that's why I'm pissed since we haven't heard a single hint of such a thing, or at least I haven't. I was just saying that since World is not 5 and there is no MH5 that we've heard of yet, their rumor of MH Portable, could be the new 5, if such a thing exists. For all we know, MH5 could be coming to the 3DS if they even end up making a number 5.

Technically it's confirmed MHW is the next main(line) MH game as well as the new MH generation (making it generation 5).
 

boiled goose

good with gravy
I think MHW foe ps4 makes sense. It's a successful system.

What's bizarre is not localizing mhxx.

Is capcom not planning portable mh this gen?? Are those also not gonna get localized. I just don't get their strategy.

Then again, this is the company that made RE UC 1 and 2 after a very successful RE 4 wii.
 
Well fuck you too Capcom.

World best feel like mainline MH as you claim if you're abandoning the numbered titles and handheld portability for it. If it does my PC will be ready to receive it, but if not, I'll vote with my wallet.
 

EvilMario

Will QA for food.
I'll buy World almost without a doubt, but I will heavily miss attending weekly Monhan meetups. Having the game on portables for so long was such a godsend. I may just download the Japanese release of XX on Switch if some from my group are buying it.

I hope World is cross plat, as I won't be buying a second PS4 to play co-op with my wife, but I could do PC to PS4.
 
Counterpoint: I think many of the criticisms pointed at MHW are a result of Nintendo MH fans being angry about a change in platform, leading me to believe that they weren't around for the Playstation games. I've seen tons of Switch based salt in this and other MHW topics. I would argue that the people who have stuck with the series the longest remember how great the console entries could be, and want to see a return to a more impressive MH.

I would love a localization of XX, too.

Uh, do you remember the controls on the PS2 entries? After 3G, 4G, Generations I don't think anyone will look back on those console releases as being some great memory.
 

Khezu

Member
Uh, do you remember the controls on the PS2 entries? After 3G, 4G, Generations I don't think anyone will look back on those console releases as being some great memory.

Stick based combat was great for some weapons.
It felt really good with Lances and Great Swords.

Only real issue was the camera, and it probably wouldn't work that well with some of the new weapons.

But i would still love the option for a nostalgia mode in MHW.
 

Kyuur

Member
Feels like they're leaving money on the table. Hell they could just do a digital release for NA on Switch for next to nothing (I assume there is relatively little to re-localize since X is already out here).

I'll probably enjoy World but I would have bought both. :/
 
Everyone knows the only way for a series to REALLY progress is graphics. Monhun fans should be happy they're finally getting a REAL sequel. One that's moving the series forward!



Don't play Monhun but fuck Capcom. Leaving the people who grew the damn franchise in the west in the dust is pretty damn shitty.
 
Everyone knows the only way for a series to REALLY progress is graphics. Monhun fans should be happy they're finally getting a REAL sequel. One that's moving the series forward!



Don't play Monhun but fuck Capcom. Leaving the people who grew the damn franchise in the west in the dust is pretty damn shitty.
Because graphics are the only changes.

For someone who doesn't play MH, you're awfully salty.
 
Not only are they leaving the audience that grew them in the west, their leaving the audience that started them in the east.

Their exchanging fans. The ps4 only has like 5 mil in Japan, and Japan is Monster Hunters biggest by far audience. So Capcom is now westernizing a game made by Japanese for the Japanese audience, telling them to fuck off for a smaller audience but bigger player base.

Meanwhile the company that made them thrive in the west is getting shafted by Capcom for the company that wouldn't give them room to work edgewise before they jumped ship.

Fuck Capcom, they have no business loyalty. If they don't make right and localize XX for the west, I'm not buying MH:W on principle.
 

RPGamer92

Banned
Not only are they leaving the audience that grew them in the west, their leaving the audience that started them in the east.

Their exchanging fans. The ps4 only has like 5 mil in Japan, and Japan is Monster Hunters biggest by far audience. So Capcom is now westernizing a game made by Japanese for the Japanese audience, telling them to fuck off for a smaller audience but bigger player base.

Meanwhile the company that made them thrive in the west is getting shafted by Capcom for the company that wouldn't give them room to work edgewise before they jumped ship.

Fuck Capcom, they have no business loyalty. If they don't make right and localize XX for the west, I'm not buying MH:W on principle.
ay ay. 2017-era mupptet post.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
Not only are they leaving the audience that grew them in the west, their leaving the audience that started them in the east.

Their exchanging fans. The ps4 only has like 5 mil in Japan, and Japan is Monster Hunters biggest by far audience. So Capcom is now westernizing a game made by Japanese for the Japanese audience, telling them to fuck off for a smaller audience but bigger player base.

Meanwhile the company that made them thrive in the west is getting shafted by Capcom for the company that wouldn't give them room to work edgewise before they jumped ship.

Fuck Capcom, they have no business loyalty. If they don't make right and localize XX for the west, I'm not buying MH:W on principle.

This is...uh...welp. Cool.

BTW, the group that "grew" them in the East were PSP fans.
 

Chindogg

Member
Not only are they leaving the audience that grew them in the west, their leaving the audience that started them in the east.

Their exchanging fans. The ps4 only has like 5 mil in Japan, and Japan is Monster Hunters biggest by far audience. So Capcom is now westernizing a game made by Japanese for the Japanese audience, telling them to fuck off for a smaller audience but bigger player base.

Meanwhile the company that made them thrive in the west is getting shafted by Capcom for the company that wouldn't give them room to work edgewise before they jumped ship.

Fuck Capcom, they have no business loyalty. If they don't make right and localize XX for the west, I'm not buying MH:W on principle.

Ok I'm annoyed that there's no portable version but this is a bit much and kinda silly.
 
Because graphics are the only changes.

For someone who doesn't play MH, you're awfully salty.

I have several friends that play and know a good chunk about how the game plays. Nothing in that trailer looked like something that couldn't be done on Switch except the graphics. And it certainly isn't the minor changes (and probably casualizing) that are getting people excited, it's the graphics.

I'd be salty about this for any franchise, it's shitty no matter how you slice it. Capcom did this shit several times last gen and it screwed them almost every time. I don't see anything to be happy about with this move.
 

neohwa

Junior Member
Does the subtitle Monster Hunter: Double Cross mean nothing to you all? Why are you acting all surprised?

Also please see Capcom's track record of betraying their old fans:

Street Fighter V: Screw Arcade
Mega Man: Who?
DMC: Dante may cry
RE Code Veronica: Hello Sega
REmake: Hello Nintendo
RE Zero: Screw Sony
RE4-7: Sony I was just kidding
RE4: not really a RE game(RE should be horror)
RE7: not really a RE game(RE should be action)
Breath of Fire 6: Becoming Konami
Monster Hunter 3DS: Hello Nintendo
Monster Hunter World: Sony I was just kidding

As a long time Capcom fan, this is nothing new.
 

MoonFrog

Member
Don't really get it.

If they are going to keep making Switch games (for Japan) and there is a healthy audience on Nintendo portables in the west...why abandon that audience, if they are making the games anyway?

Is the idea to get as many people to switch over to playing it on PS4 in the west as possible?

But aren't they getting money if Switch sales happen anyway? And, indeed, more money, assuming a lower budget?

Perhaps it is about building a single, big ecosystem in the west to drive consumer satisfaction and retention?

Other ways this makes sense to me are:

a) They just aren't talking MHXX localization yet.

b) MHXX is the only MH Switch title period, unless they can't do without portable sales in Japan.
 
Really sucks that we're not getting MH on Switch. Thought the Nintendo/Capcom partnership was doing alright.

Hopefully MHW is a real deal MH game, at least I can play it on PC for the first time (not emulated, that is).
 

HawthorneKitty

Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
So I wonder if the switch Mon hun game gets announce at tgs.
Nah, I'd bet on 5 for Switch at their tournament (they'll still do that with World right?) next year summer with a fall release at best or spring the following at worst.
 
Don't really get it.

If they are going to keep making Switch games (for Japan) and there is a healthy audience on Nintendo portables in the west...why abandon that audience, if they are making the games anyway?

Is the idea to get as many people to switch over to playing it on PS4 in the west as possible?

But aren't they getting money if Switch sales happen anyway? And, indeed, more money, assuming a lower budget?

Perhaps it is about building a single, big ecosystem in the west to drive consumer satisfaction and retention?

Other ways this makes sense to me are:

a) They just aren't talking MHXX localization yet.

b) MHXX is the only MH Switch title period, unless they can't do without portable sales in Japan.

Im not sure how this big ecosystem idea would really work because the community will be fractured.

Maybe they just want everyone to get World vecause it will be paid DLC loaded and XX wont and they figure if people want more MH theyll buy high profit margin DLC over a costly localization.
 
Ok I'm annoyed that there's no portable version but this is a bit much and kinda silly.

I don't think its silly, not at all. the PS4 has been around for 3 years, why now when the 3DS is done with, and the Switch is the new portable hotness, selling like gangbusters wouldn't Capcom suddenly decide MonHun needed to be on everything but Nintendos hottest product in a decade? Back room dealings by Sony if the rumors are true. If they don't even put out a shitty localization in the west? Thats a slap in the face of their customers.
 

MoonFrog

Member
Im not sure how this big ecosystem idea would really work because the community will be fractured.

Maybe they just want everyone to get World vecause it will be paid DLC loaded and XX wont and they figure if people want more MH theyll be high profit margin DLC over a costly localization.

What I mean is MHW drives future stationary MH releases better the more customers it has so that it has a vibrant online community. Maybe they really want the west to switch over to PS4 MH as much as possible and not stop some of that by also having a western Switch game.

The difference being that in Japan portable MH is more entrenched and proven to be the way Japan likes MH.
 

Chindogg

Member
I don't think its silly, not at all. the PS4 has been around for 3 years, why now when the 3DS is done with, and the Switch is the new portable hotness, selling like gangbusters wouldn't Capcom suddenly decide MonHun needed to be on everything but Nintendos hottest product in a decade? Back room dealings by Sony if the rumors are true. If they don't even put out a shitty localization in the west? Thats a slap in the face of their customers.

Well there are two MH teams so maybe there'll be a portable version. Let's relax and see what happens.
 

Macrotus

Member
Well, if theres enough people who wants to actually buy it in the west, Nintendo might step up and do the localisation for Capcom.
 

Champion

Member
Does the subtitle Monster Hunter: Double Cross mean nothing to you all? Why are you acting all surprised?

Also please see Capcom's track record of betraying their old fans:

Street Fighter V: Screw Arcade
Mega Man: Who?
DMC: Dante may cry
RE Code Veronica: Hello Sega
REmake: Hello Nintendo
RE Zero: Screw Sony
RE4-7: Sony I was just kidding
RE4: not really a RE game(RE should be horror)
RE7: not really a RE game(RE should be action)
Breath of Fire 6: Becoming Konami
Monster Hunter 3DS: Hello Nintendo
Monster Hunter World: Sony I was just kidding

As a long time Capcom fan, this is nothing new.
Dont forget Revelations selling well on 3DS then the sequel not coming to the platform. Despite all this I think they made the right call this time but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 

Vena

Member
I don't think its silly, not at all. the PS4 has been around for 3 years, why now when the 3DS is done with, and the Switch is the new portable hotness, selling like gangbusters wouldn't Capcom suddenly decide MonHun needed to be on everything but Nintendos hottest product in a decade? Back room dealings by Sony if the rumors are true. If they don't even put out a shitty localization in the west? Thats a slap in the face of their customers.

This was greenlit before the Switch was even a solidified concept, the 3DS was winding down, the WiiU an unmitigated disaster, and before the PS4's anemic sales/market position in Japan became clear.

Times were different and games take a long time to make.

Capcom almost certainly wasn't anticipating their major platform for this title in Japan to to have basically shit the bed in an otherwise empty market for home consoles. (Its going to start slipping behind the PS3, and the PS3 was competing with and eclipsed by the Wii in its time.) But that's what it is now, and not what it was then.

I suspect, very much so, that they shifted focus westward through development as the market realities of Japan became clear because there was no real reversal of course and Japan was pretty much a lost cause.
 

Nanashrew

Banned
With MH World being multiplat, I wonder how many on Xbox and PS4 will buy it and how bad it may be because Sony hates crossplay.
 

antibolo

Banned
Oh for fuck's sake Capcom.

It's bad enough that western pubs don't want to support the Switch, now we get Japanese pubs that only want to support the Switch in Japan.

FUCK VIDEO GAMES. FUCK THIS SHITTY INDUSTRY.

I'M SO TIRED OF THIS SHIT.
 
What I mean is MHW drives future stationary MH releases better the more customers it has so that it has a vibrant online community. Maybe they really want the west to switch over to PS4 MH as much as possible and not stop some of that by also having a western Switch game.

The difference being that in Japan portable MH is more entrenched and proven to be the way Japan likes MH.

World is a multi plat and doesnt have crossplay though. The online community wont be held to a single platform. I just dont understand how having everyone on World benefits them more unless they want to offload paid DLC that is cheaper to produce than localizing portable entries.
 

MoonFrog

Member
World is a multi plat and doesnt have crossplay though. The online community wont be held to a single platform. I just dont understand how having everyone on World benefits them more unless they want to offload paid DLC that is cheaper to produce than localizing portable entries.

Idk. I'm grabbing at straws myself lol.
 

Heroman

Banned
World is a multi plat and doesnt have crossplay though. The online community wont be held to a single platform. I just dont understand how having everyone on World benefits them more unless they want to offload paid DLC that is cheaper to produce than localizing portable entries.
Crossplay? This game will probably majority on PS4 the community will do fine.
 
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