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Final Fantasy XIV: Stormblood |OT| Y'all Need to Calm Down
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so do I. now I need to actually aim my overpowers during big pulls instead of flash and run
so do I. now I need to actually aim my overpowers during big pulls instead of flash and run
there's an aoe provoke now, too, don't forget
Yes. They did it in HW. Coerthas basically became barrens chat for the first couple weeks. 😒😒
Mistwalker
Member
That was me all right! I've gotta get better at connecting people's characters to their GAF usernames.Mist, if you're the same name in-game, I think I've briefly joked about going RDM bros with you.
I can't SERIOUSLY commit as I play the majority of my time from work, but I will be cheering your progress on.
Even if our online hours don't match up (and I'm in Japan so it's crazy anyway), I'll still be your RDM bro IN SPIRIT.
Yeah but who's going to take aoe provoke and normal provoke at the same time?
hmm,
not GCD but maybe I'll try it out >_>
not GCD but maybe I'll try it out >_>
Munba
Member
So do i, it was useful in different situations sigh.
Unknown Soldier
Member
I was complaining about this the other day. I always used Flash on WAR for dungeon pulls when running through packs. I think most WARs used Flash when the situation called for AoE aggro around you instead of a cone in front of you.
Squenix has no idea what they are doing is nothing new though. I'll just be a SAM until they un-fuck WAR.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I farmed up the gear weeks ago in preparation.
Also prepared to grind Palace of the Dead all the way to 60 which is going to take a while.
But if everything goes well I should be 60 before the day is over.
I had people arguing that no one should EVER use flash if they are playing Warrior. I'd been defending it for the last few weeks or so. Steel Cyclone and Overpower is more than enough according to quite a few players I've spoken to.
I still went /shrug and continued to use it. I will miss it
I still went /shrug and continued to use it. I will miss it
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I had people arguing that no one should EVER use flash if they are playing Warrior. I'd been defending it for the last few weeks or so. Steel Cyclone and Overpower is more than enough according to quite a few players I've spoken to.
I still went /shrug and continued to use it. I will miss it
Show them this video and they'll never doubt how good Flash is ever again.
I mean, you can just aim Overpower? Even things like A12S add spawns in a circle allow for a single Overpower to hit everything. The rest of the cross-class skills are pretty important for use as well so it's pretty hard to give up any of them for essentially QoL AoE threat. Losing Awareness for Raw Intuition is pretty big, Second Wind is a good oGCD snap threat + heal, Internal Release I guess is pretty small in the grand scheme of things?
I don't even really have TP concerns and I Sprint through dungeons when I'm pulling with Overpower use.
I don't even really have TP concerns and I Sprint through dungeons when I'm pulling with Overpower use.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
I had people arguing that no one should EVER use flash if they are playing Warrior. I'd been defending it for the last few weeks or so. Steel Cyclone and Overpower is more than enough according to quite a few players I've spoken to.
I still went /shrug and continued to use it. I will miss it
I was leveling up Warrior in a leveling roulette a couple days ago and the healer in my party advised me to use flash to make sure I kept enmity on enemy groups, which I was somewhat struggling with. I didn't have the heart to tell him that that wouldn't be possible in a few days.
In regular-ass dungeon content the AOE one is probably more useful tbh
I'm always missing this part of events.
Fell short of my goal to reach HW before the today's maintenance.
Made it to
and now have nine more quests to go until HW and the three new jobs.
I really don't know what I want to play in HW. My two highest classes are NIN at 53-54 and ACN at 42. I want to try healing again and I really dig the tarot card / astrology theme that ASTs are rocking (though I'll need to do the job quest to be sure), but not really looking forward to playing a FotM class. Would like to try DRK too.
I kind of feel bad about shelving NIN for a while though. DOMA NEEDS ME.
I really wanted to try an Au Ra, but after playing Mithra in XI and going through all of ARR as a Miqo'te, I think I'd have instant buyer's remorse...Yours looks good though! ^^
Made it to
The Steps of Faith
I really don't know what I want to play in HW. My two highest classes are NIN at 53-54 and ACN at 42. I want to try healing again and I really dig the tarot card / astrology theme that ASTs are rocking (though I'll need to do the job quest to be sure), but not really looking forward to playing a FotM class. Would like to try DRK too.
I kind of feel bad about shelving NIN for a while though. DOMA NEEDS ME.
I really wanted to try an Au Ra, but after playing Mithra in XI and going through all of ARR as a Miqo'te, I think I'd have instant buyer's remorse...Yours looks good though! ^^
Relaxed Muscle
Member
WAR wouldn't need Flash, if DPS coud hold one second for me to gather up all foes and do Steel Cyclone + Overpower, instead of going all mad as soon pull ends. Just getting in front of the pull and get the aggro should be enough, and that way you can use Berserk + Steel Cyclone + Overpower + BB and laugh at PLD that all the can do is Flash.
R.I.P WAR 3.x you were too good for this world.
R.I.P WAR 3.x you were too good for this world.
Don't you mean before the pull ends?
Seriously, Even when I'm not hesitating and just running while tomahawking/flashing, I still get one dps who ends up pulling one or several enemies off me when I'm trying to gather them up/finish the pull. Usually it's the first few enemies that they go all out on causing aggro loss because by the time I even realize, my enmity list is full of fodder that I plan on cycloing down.
Yes
Yes but not to get RDM/SAM. For those, all you need is one level 50 job and 2.0 story completed I believe.
Hentailover
Member
Wait, people considered the fact that you
a spoiler? Did they
win against the bad guy
expect nidhogg to win and rest of the story to be post apocalyptic FF fallout? Seriously, you defeating the bad guy is NOT A SPOILER, come on!
Unknown Soldier
Member
I give up, I'll finish the rest of post-HW story during early access. I hope many other someones will also be catching up and will be doing Baelsar's Wall when I need it.
uhh, sarcasm? Because I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that you need to finish all of HW to access SB
Mistwalker
Member
Yes, you need to have completed both the ARR main quests and all of the Heavensward main story as well.
There will be jump potions on sale as of tomorrow that will automatically complete all the story quests for you, if you don't care about experiencing it yourself and would rather jump right into Stormblood.
Speaking of, is anyone actually planning on using the Jump Potion to get to 60 for any job?
I must admit, I am tempted to use one on my Archer as it's my lowest level job (12 - 15 or something) and Bards changes look pretty cool.
I wasn't expecting to kill them in a leveling dungeon to be fair
RIP Second Wind and Bloodbath, true heroes of dungeon running. If this means I have to actually stop DPS when I run out of MP I'll be sad.
They drop the title on you in a level 56 quest in the middle of the main story, at which point anybody who's wearing it was running around showing people not that far yet that it was, in fact, happening fairly early on in the story. It's also an extremely anticlimactic encounter, not really deserving of a title for anything beyond story reasons.
Like, I'm of the opinion that most of the story is kind of predictable given how little of it is news to me despite skipping all cutscenes and reading no quest text, but if we accept that it's possible to spoil it, that should probably count.
They drop the title on you in a level 56 quest in the middle of the main story, at which point anybody who's wearing it was running around showing people not that far yet that it was, in fact, happening fairly early on in the story. It's also an extremely anticlimactic encounter, not really deserving of a title for anything beyond story reasons.
Like, I'm of the opinion that most of the story is kind of predictable given how little of it is news to me despite skipping all cutscenes and reading no quest text, but if we accept that it's possible to spoil it, that should probably count.
Mistwalker
Member
I admit that I'm considering it, for Paladin (my Gladiator is currently level 4...). Though a case could be made for toughing it out and leveling something like that through dungeons, as tanks have short queues.
For a DPS class like Archer, I think the Jump potion would be very tempting, unless you're committed to spending a good stretch of hours in the Palace of the Dead with Red Mages and Samurai everywhere.
Mysterious Ryan
Member
In regards to FF XIV streamers, who does everyone enjoy watching / prefer?
I might jump my BLM or WHM so I'm closer to getting the Grandmaster of Magic title. Those are the only Disciples of Magic I don't have at 60.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I'm gonna miss cleric stance for the sole reason of it just felt cool to have my dps chocobo, me in cleric stance , and my fairy healing.
Also soon as I hit the cap on gear I can get for raiding pre omega normal I'm totally gonna birb farm nonstop at 70 LOL
Also soon as I hit the cap on gear I can get for raiding pre omega normal I'm totally gonna birb farm nonstop at 70 LOL
Mistwalker
Member
Looks like 8 quests to go (but one is a required dungeon).
I am so screwed
A couple hours with a dungeon and a solo duty on the way
I played the base game of FFXIV about the time Heavensward came out, but at the time had little time to invest in it.
If I have it right: I go back to it now, I'll have the free trial content with my Archer until Level 35, and can then sub up to carry on at that point?
As I want to play Red Mage, once I get my Archer to 50 and unlock Red Mage, is it starting itself at 50 or am I levelling Red Mage from Lv1 all over again?
If I have it right: I go back to it now, I'll have the free trial content with my Archer until Level 35, and can then sub up to carry on at that point?
As I want to play Red Mage, once I get my Archer to 50 and unlock Red Mage, is it starting itself at 50 or am I levelling Red Mage from Lv1 all over again?
Interview thing
the job could be cleanly divided into 30s chunks because everything operated on timers that aligned naturally oh my god what are you even talking about
Like, the too many buttons complaint I get. It's not my experience, but I get it. That the over concentration on WF burst windows made failing the burst window overall too punishing I get.
But seriously I can't think of any other job in the game where everything else lined up naturally to the extend it did on OG MCH, and Overheat is like... 90 times more convoluted to manage than 'push these buttons together because they will light up at the same time'.
the job could be cleanly divided into 30s chunks because everything operated on timers that aligned naturally oh my god what are you even talking about
Like, the too many buttons complaint I get. It's not my experience, but I get it. That the over concentration on WF burst windows made failing the burst window overall too punishing I get.
But seriously I can't think of any other job in the game where everything else lined up naturally to the extend it did on OG MCH, and Overheat is like... 90 times more convoluted to manage than 'push these buttons together because they will light up at the same time'.
Freeman76
Member
Yeah same bullshit as HW. Or pay to skip. Scammy fucks
Edit: Now that I read the source in Japanese he could possibly mean that there's just a lot of actions with varying recast timers so it's hard to tell how to line them up (it's not but people playing this game don't often have lights upstairs).
The wording use is that recast timers were "all over the place" (バラバラ
. Eh. Still doesn't sound right.There's "developers don't know their own games as well as they think they do" and then there's Naoki Yoshida.
Hot Shot, Lead Shot, and every damage cooldown are on a multiple of 30 seconds. With one exception: Blood for Blood which is an 80 second cooldown so you just hold it for 10 seconds. The cooldowns line up perfectly.
Put up a PF asking for a few kind souls to help get you through the dungeon so you can start Stormblood.
Might not work but there may be some nice folks who see it and are willing to help just so you can start SB.