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Final Fantasy Five Four Job Fiesta 2017: Don't talk about the #FifthJob

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
Should be starting when I get back from vacation. Nice.

Starting run will be some messy stupid shenanigans. Random 750 Berserker Risk.
 

Kyuur

Member
Pure chaos with #fifthjob sounds like a ton of fun.

Can you use abilities learned with Galuf's job after unlocking Krile's?
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
Pure chaos with #fifthjob sounds like a ton of fun.

Can you use abilities learned with Galuf's job after unlocking Krile's?

It entirely overwrites your earth job, so you can't use anything from it.

It doesn't say anything about how it's selected though. I assume randomly from the available jobs based on the run being done, and not just another earth job.
 

RevenantKioku

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It entirely overwrites your earth job, so you can't use anything from it.

It doesn't say anything about how it's selected though. I assume randomly from the available jobs based on the run being done, and not just another earth job.

Correct on Fifth Job overwriting. It's the job and it's skills. It all goes with Galuf.

The job is selected just like it was choosing a job normally. It just won't choose the job you are losing.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
In again. I can't remember if it was last year or the one before, but I ran out of time and just couldn't finish. My poor streak.
 

RevenantKioku

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In again. I can't remember if it was last year or the one before, but I ran out of time and just couldn't finish. My poor streak.

If you want the (bad?) feelings of knowing, you can always login and check out your history on your page!
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
Without looking, I think I've only had two runs I didn't finish. One was a fairly uninteresting set of jobs I wasn't getting through very quickly and ended up running out of time.

And the other was a super boring set of jobs that I had every intention of finishing, but my save got corrupted or around 3/4 of the way through the game. Didn't feel like starting over with those jobs since there was only around a week left. If it was closer to the beginning I'd have just done it again to move on and do more runs.
 

Kyuur

Member
It entirely overwrites your earth job, so you can't use anything from it.

It doesn't say anything about how it's selected though. I assume randomly from the available jobs based on the run being done, and not just another earth job.

Correct on Fifth Job overwriting. It's the job and it's skills. It all goes with Galuf.

The job is selected just like it was choosing a job normally. It just won't choose the job you are losing.

Thanks guys! Was reading the actual website help and it didn't mention like I now see the OP here does.

Pure Chaos w/ Fifth it is! Inb4 awesome Galuf job is overwritten with Berserker or something.

I changed Twitter accounts and all of my history is lost. Oh well, time to build my legacy anew!

Me too. I like the new feature still though!
 

RevenantKioku

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I changed Twitter accounts and all of my history is lost. Oh well, time to build my legacy anew!

It takes time, but I can fix this if you tweet at me with your old handle.

It's not something I realistically want to be doing for thousands of people, but it's not an impossible fix.
 

RevenantKioku

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The game freezes I think. I bought it years ago for my PS3. Brand new and I couldn't get past the first area of the game because it wouldn't save. Instead, I just emulated the GBA version.

Weird. That must be a PS3 emulation bug? I remember FF7 and 8 having some graphical glitches on the PS3. The original copy on a PS1 would just graphically glitch out. You could still save/play, but it was nearly impossible to tell what was what.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
The upgrade to the site is great, RK.

FF V PSX is well known for freezing and save bugs. I've had them occur on PS1, PS2, PS3, and PSP.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
How did Square release a game like that? They had to know about that shit.

None of those ports were very good.

FF IV had ridiculously long save/load times. They fixed the load times in the overseas version.

FF V has that awful script, widespread graphical glitches especially when not played on a PS1, and the occasional save glitch that at best will corrupt that save and at worst will get the whole card.

FF VI sounds awful, has pre battle loads, looks a bit washed out.

Chrono Trigger has the pre battle loads that are even worse than FF VI.
 

RevenantKioku

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I have no problems with the other ones, but still how did they release V with a major bug like that. You can only beat the game in one sitting.
I played that version to completion without any corruption. It was on a PS2, probably? Hard to remember all these years later.
 

ultimos

Neo Member
I have no problems with the other ones, but still how did they release V with a major bug like that. You can only beat the game in one sitting.

Yeah it's not quite that bad, I beat it multiple times. If I recall, occasionally when you clicked on save, it looked all terrible and corrupted. Instead of hitting confirm to save, you'd just cancel out and try again and it was usually fine.
 

MilkBeard

Member
I have no problems with the other ones, but still how did they release V with a major bug like that. You can only beat the game in one sitting.

Anecdotal, but I used to have FF Anthology for PSX and never encountered freezing or save issues when I played FF V.

Now, on the other hand, load times were painfully slow, and there was a weird, quarter-second "pause" in FF VI whenever you use Sabin's Aura Bolt. That always bugged me.
 
I'll probably do a regular run since this will be my first time doing the Fiesta, but who knows, maybe I'll switch it up. Haven't registered yet, but I've been waiting a long time for this event.

I expect to fail since Stormblood is gonna consume all my attention

Edit: Registered with pure chaos, fifth job. Gonna have fun with this
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
For someone looking for something easy on a first time I would honestly recommend 750 without modifiers.

100% chance of a great job from the wind crystal. White mage is a little annoying to start with but not too bad and makes up for it later. Black and Blue are immediately awesome and stay that way.

Great chance of a great job from water. Time and Summoner are super good. Red can bring a decent amount to the table when paired with any of those three Wind jobs. At worst, it is a backup Black/White/Blue caster with bonus spells.

Fire is 50/50. Geomancer is kind of bleh, but sometimes useful and is still decent with your Wind magic even in the worst case. Bard rocks socks.

Earth job brings utility to the table no matter what. Chemist breaks the game, and Dancer will offer good physical damage otherwise unavailable in 750, especially at the end of the game.

Worst party possible is probably White/Red/Geo/Dancer but that's not even that bad. And basically any other combination is awesome.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
I agree that 750 makes the game easier in general.

ONE NOTE though: It makes your party have ridiculously low HP if you don't grind a little. Chemist can double your HP if you get them, Shell and Protect go a long way but there's still some attacks from certain bosses that you just don't want to take with low hp.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
I agree that 750 makes the game easier in general.

ONE NOTE though: It makes your party have ridiculously low HP if you don't grind a little. Chemist can double your HP if you get them, Shell and Protect go a long way but there's still some attacks from certain bosses that you just don't want to take with low hp.
Yeah. If you don't have a way to reliably get rid of the bottom part of the final boss (Catoblepas, and Magic Lamp doesn't always work), Shell still requires about 700HP to survive Almagest.
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
Run is over, starting soon. I'll probably start tonight. How far I go depends on my wind job I guess.


At Tule, waiting for my job so I know what to buy.
 
It's likely I'll be freelancing my way to the Water Crystal, we'll see what happens after that. I don't think Pure Chaos was available at the start last year.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Got my party done with the Wind Shrine, waiting to see what I get! Probably will start tomorrow, streaming

EDIT: NEVER MIND

I always get too curious to see what jobs I get so I check first. F the police.

Beastmaster + 3x Berserker.
(Bonus mobile game: Thief/Berserker/Ninja/Dragoon)

...and no, none of these are no750.
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
Black/Berserker/Geo so far.

Up to Crescent Island and have a Death Sickle. Got one pretty quick, only level 10 across the board. Even at level 5-8 I still basically coasted through everything from Siren to Byblos. Black Mages and broken rods are kind of good.
 
Nice! Starting off with the job I haven't had in a run before, Knight! But I guess that means I now have a choice to make with the Brave Blade.
 

Wingus

Member
Starting off with Thief. It'll be a pretty rough start, though I had Thief/Berserker combo back in 2012 so it shouldn't be too much of a hassle compared to then :)
 

ultimos

Neo Member
I'm trying to quicksave my way through the Walse basement to get the Elven Mantle without fighting Jackanapes like I do every year, and I'm running into the Save File Corruption problem, which has never happened before. I know this is a known thing, I'm just curious if there's more information about this - can I somehow manipulate it to work for me again, or is my quicksave function just dead forever?

I'm playing a real US cart on a DS Lite. I've tried it about 8 times or so now, and I'm going crazy here. I know I should probably just let it go, but I really want that thing.


Edit: OK I figured this out actually. After trying several more times, I tried the one thing I KNOW is different on this play through vs past ones - my classes. My "Wind" job is Ninja, which means I'm using four Freelancers right now. I switched everyone to other random jobs, and it worked fine, even with me using the quicksave maybe 7 times to avoid battles.

I'm a bit torn on whether or not it's ethically OK to keep this file though now or to go back to my save right before. On one hand, yes despite getting into no battles, I did indeed use other classes. But on the other hand, this bug doesn't even exist in the European version, so I could have easily gotten that stuff with my Freelancers in that scenario. Hmm..
 

JohnTonne

Member
Did they change Chaos back to how it was a couple years ago?

I remember before you used to get your first job as the earliest possible crystal you could have so you weren't stuck in Freelancer forever, say if the first job you unlocked was an Earth crystal job you knew you had 4 Earth crystal jobs.

Last year I got a Earth crystal job as my first job and was like "this will be fun, 4 earth crystal jobs" then my second job was Thief, and was kinda annoyed, have they changed this or is there a new mode so that they unlock in the fun order?
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Someone refresh my memory:

I'm doing Chaos + BerserkerRisk:

Wind Crystal: Beastmaster
Water Crystal: Berserker
Fire Crystal: Berserker
Earth Crystal: Berserker

I know I don't get Beastmaster until the Fire Crystal. But Berserker is a Water Crystal job. Do I do Freelancer entirely up until the Fire Crystal (which I would then get Beastmaster + 2 Berserkers), or do I get a Berserker when I hit the Water Crystal first, then Beastmaster + Berserker when I hit the Fire Crystal?
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
Someone refresh my memory:

I'm doing Chaos + BerserkerRisk:

Wind Crystal: Beastmaster
Water Crystal: Berserker
Fire Crystal: Berserker
Earth Crystal: Berserker

I know I don't get Beastmaster until the Fire Crystal. But Berserker is a Water Crystal job. Do I do Freelancer entirely up until the Fire Crystal (which I would then get Beastmaster + 2 Berserkers), or do I get a Berserker when I hit the Water Crystal first, then Beastmaster + Berserker when I hit the Fire Crystal?

Freelancer to water, 4 Berserkers to fire, then 2 Berserkers, 1 Beastmaster, 1 either to earth.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
Someone refresh my memory:

I'm doing Chaos + BerserkerRisk:

Wind Crystal: Beastmaster
Water Crystal: Berserker
Fire Crystal: Berserker
Earth Crystal: Berserker

I know I don't get Beastmaster until the Fire Crystal. But Berserker is a Water Crystal job. Do I do Freelancer entirely up until the Fire Crystal (which I would then get Beastmaster + 2 Berserkers), or do I get a Berserker when I hit the Water Crystal first, then Beastmaster + Berserker when I hit the Fire Crystal?

This party is legendary. I've had two Berserkers ruining a BM's day before...but never three!
 

Kyuur

Member
Wind crystal is Freelancer! HO BOY. This will be interesting, I don't think I've ever done Freelancer only until the Water crystal before.
 
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