Don't want to get people's hopes up.
"All those shareholders used up their questions asking about mobile games!"
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Don't want to get people's hopes up.
"All those shareholders used up their questions asking about mobile games!"
True, although anecdotal evidence from a whole chain of stores is obviously more reliable than anecdotal evidence from one single store.
What time does it take place?
Jaded Alyx
Member
These already exist.
RyougaSaotome
Member
They were always going to be fighting an uphill battle on this one, and I think even THEY understood that.
Especially after the Famitsu articles that would go out of their way to say "THIS ONLY LOOKS LIKE LEGEND OF LEGACY BUT EXACTLY IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOOK PLS."
Word of mouth on this one is a whole lot better, though, so we'll see what happens in the long run (if anything).
Nobody in Japan trusts a thing FuRyu says at this point.
Poor GRIMES
Banned
Isn't 71% a pretty steep drop? Why are people saying this is a great hold?
Because it's decent for a fighting game.
boiled goose
good with gravy
I agree that the NES and SNES classic lack any meaningful long term strategy other than a quick buck.
If I were in charge of Nintendo, I would make NES and SNES virtual console boxes that also tie into your Nintendo account. Play classic games you own on the minis, switch, etc.
This would encourage big VC users on Switch to buy a bunch of NES/SNES classics to put around their office, dorm, vacation home, game rooms, bars, etc. and it would also provide a pathway for more casual classic only owners to invest in a Switch. This ecosystem synergy is something that Nintendo has miserably failed to develop.
whats the alternative to using nand flash for internal storage?
it doesn't matter if it's 8/16 or 32gb, it still takes one production slot, decreasing storage size doesn't improve yields in this case
Anyone expecting 100.000 (or more) Switch sold per week on July/August in Japan is in for a rude awakening. Maybe Nintendo can get that kind of shipment for a sole week but not for 2 months (or even one month).
Hahaha noooo! The idea for Nintendo is to rise brand awareness for the people that knows Nintendo from 20-30 years ago but doesnt know what they're up to now. Even knowing that your example could (and will probably) happen the idea is that this holiday Snes mini will attract people not interested in Switch but interested in Nintendo nostalgia and then make them aware that there's a new Nintendo console that they should buy/play later (after holidays when I exect them to have better Switch stock than now).
It's the same strategy they used for NES mini and Switch but this time with more stock for Snes mini.
Hahaha noooo! The idea for Nintendo is to rise brand awareness for the people that knows Nintendo from 20-30 years ago but doesnt know what they're up to now. Even knowing that your example could (and will probably) happen the idea is that this holiday Snes mini will attract people not interested in Switch but interested in Nintendo nostalgia and then make them aware that there's a new Nintendo console that they should buy/play later (after holidays when I exect them to have better Switch stock than now).
It's the same strategy they used for NES mini and Switch but this time with more stock for Snes mini.
These aren't really meant for people who want that kind of thing(hopefully they will implement that on Switch soon). They're deliberately just simple plug-and-play devices to appeal to lapsed gamers and collectors.
boiled goose
good with gravy
The problem with this "strategy" is that NES mini was so rare that it was gobbled up by enthusiast crowd so it didn't really push much brand awareness. Also, no Switch stock either, so yeah. Don't buy this was intentional. NES mini was a test that was way more popular than expected.
You can do both.
There's only an upside to my suggestion for Nintendo except for some account infrastructure stuff. (which admittedly nintendo sucks at)
It can have preloaded games out of the box. All it would need is a usb port.
Yeah, this was my main takeaway from that chart lol, hopefully it shows that VR has a market and more publishers and developers keep pushing the platform. I loved my first approach to VR with the PSVR and I definitely want to see how much it improves in the next 10 years.
Low how many Switches are out there....and people who would be interested in ARMS have a hard time getting the system right now anyway. So the drop is pretty good all things considered.
maybe people are expecting it because yso predicted ~20-30k again for next week. But we'll have to see
You're right about the enthusiast crowd buying the most stock for NES mini but I can tell you that it pushed some brand awareness. It's all anecdotal on my part but today 3 friends of mine that couldn't get a NES mini just pre-ordered a Snes mini (and one of them also bought a Switch 2 months ago when his last console was a N64). I'm pretty sure all of them already know the Switch even if some of them are not interested in buying it, so Nintendo did something right with NES mini (the limited stock was definitely the wrong thing they did regarding the NES mini).
Besides I'm expecting more stock for Snes mini than NES mini (at least double, 5 million) so the reach will be greater this time than last year with NES mini. We'll see if it boosts (or at least keeps) the interest in Switch during 2018.
DeuceGamer
Member
Arms seems like a good second week. Wonder how much it would have done if there were no stock issues with the Switch.
They better hope they have a lot available when Splatoon 2 hits. If not, it seems like a lot of their heavy hitters this year are going to suffer because of the stock situation. Hopefully, it doesn't have long term effects on the device.
They better hope they have a lot available when Splatoon 2 hits. If not, it seems like a lot of their heavy hitters this year are going to suffer because of the stock situation. Hopefully, it doesn't have long term effects on the device.
boiled goose
good with gravy
It's almost impossible to deconvolve the effect of the minis on switch interest. I would argue it's almost negligible. There's gonna be far more 3ds and switch consoles on the wild doing Nintendo brand awareness than the minis. It helps, but just as much as seeing a poster with Mario on it.
That looks like a high number for MK8D's second month, doesn't it?
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
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awful switch numbers
Sammy Samusu
Member
Lol.
CaviarMeths
Member
Well, apart from the Switch being a sorry-ass state of affairs, there's not much else going on this week either.
I suppose it makes sense that Stormblood didn't budge PS4's baseline. Would be weird if people were buying the console for the 2nd expansion of a years old game. That PS4 baseline has been rock steady, even if not great. Nier hanging on for dear life in the top 20. Hoping it legs its way to 400k.
Congrats to the 616 proud new owners of XB1s, PS3s, and WIUs.
I suppose it makes sense that Stormblood didn't budge PS4's baseline. Would be weird if people were buying the console for the 2nd expansion of a years old game. That PS4 baseline has been rock steady, even if not great. Nier hanging on for dear life in the top 20. Hoping it legs its way to 400k.
Congrats to the 616 proud new owners of XB1s, PS3s, and WIUs.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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He should have gave Tim Cook the Rain Maker clothesline.
Laplasakos
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I wouldn't exactly say that PS4 baseline is rock steady, considering it was under 20k for almost 2 months (with some 20k+ weeks). Aside that, i don't expect to see a steady PS4 baseline from now on with FFXIIZA, Gundam Versus and right after DQXI and DQX, plus the fact that there is a chance for a price cut at TGS considering how you can find a PS4 slim at 250$ almost everywhere except Japan (it's still 30.000 yen).
Ha ha, Famitsu once again tweeted that latest results are out... but page hasn't been updated.
https://www.famitsu.com/biz/ranking/
https://www.famitsu.com/biz/ranking/
I think the mini consoles tap an audience that 3DS/Switch can't. If this audience is by the hundreds or the millions we'll never know but I don't think it's almost negligible as you say. Anyway, if Switch is still the hot item to get on 2018 I don't think Nintendo will be much worried trying to find the source of this interest
I don' get why there are still so many "stockpile" theory people here, like, even after the official apology and shit. Why would anyone in their right mind think there is a "stockpile" after seeing how much the stock issue has hurt the Switch, in terms of both (potential) customer frustration and 3rd party's lack of motivation to support the machine, because the install base just won't fucking grow fast enough in this really critical time?
Seriously, dear conspiracy people, if you have something to sell, would you rather make the money in the future than right now? Stockpile for Splatoon 2? Like if you sell your Switch to your customer now, Splatoon 2 won't sell when it hits? But if the Switch is held for later, it will? Just what were you thinking?
Nintendo is stupid (and to some extent understandably so after the Wii U flop), couldn't gauge the interest correctly and didn't place a big enough order before launch. That's all about it. There's no magical stockpile of Switches; and if there is, Nintendo would be the first one to utilize that to get your cash ASAP. Geez.
Seriously, dear conspiracy people, if you have something to sell, would you rather make the money in the future than right now? Stockpile for Splatoon 2? Like if you sell your Switch to your customer now, Splatoon 2 won't sell when it hits? But if the Switch is held for later, it will? Just what were you thinking?
Nintendo is stupid (and to some extent understandably so after the Wii U flop), couldn't gauge the interest correctly and didn't place a big enough order before launch. That's all about it. There's no magical stockpile of Switches; and if there is, Nintendo would be the first one to utilize that to get your cash ASAP. Geez.
test_account
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While i agree with the general premise, when you launch a big game like Splatoon 2, its better to have more units available on that week alone. If they only have 30k for that week, it can also lead to a lot more frustation compared to if they have mayebe 100k. So holding some stock back could be wise in that case.
Worldwide sales is probably enough to cover the costs. No idea how much it cost to make such thing, but probably not that expensive.
I think you're all vastly overestimating the effect that these stock issues have. No third parties is suddenly going to back down on its support if it see that the Switch is selling too well for Nintendo to meet the demand. People that were going to buy a Switch now but couldn't are core gamers and they will just buy it when it's available. I don't think these are lost sales, but merely postponed.
Sure, if the situation continue for too long it would damage long term sales, but right now there's nothing to really worry. Especially when Nintendo publicily announced that the production is ramping up starting with Splatoon 2.
Sure, if the situation continue for too long it would damage long term sales, but right now there's nothing to really worry. Especially when Nintendo publicily announced that the production is ramping up starting with Splatoon 2.
shadow2810
Member
Right Ps4 is not made with nand flash.
Okay this makes more sense, then. The stock reports were into *this* week. Will be curious if we have any updates for *this* week then coming in from Retail before Week 26 kicks off.
*Lights the hiska signal!*
Some of the pictures you've showed have had it hovering at around ~27-28k¥ if memory serves, one of those tiny details in your pictures that often go overlooked.
Last week with the discounts on additional components, the price would have been approaching ~26k¥ but requiring you to buy another controller to achieve it so "spend to save" sale.
And_Gignac
Member
The momentum will be long gone when Nintendo is able to ship a normal level of consoles.
Their lack of Switch's confidence is just as pathetic as their overconfidence with the Wii U.
Their lack of Switch's confidence is just as pathetic as their overconfidence with the Wii U.
AquaWateria
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Seeing as how almost 95% of GAF called the Switch DOA I don't blame them for not extremely confident.
It doesn't help they launched it in March so it makes sense for them to be wary.
Some of the pictures you've showed have had it hovering at around ~27-28k¥ if memory serves, one of those tiny details in your pictures that often go overlooked.
Thanks for paying attention to those details. Hope, I have some free time this week to post something about Switch situation.
Some of the pictures you've showed have had it hovering at around ~27-28k¥ if memory serves, one of those tiny details in your pictures that often go overlooked.
Last week with the discounts on additional components, the price would have been approaching ~26k¥ but requiring you to buy another controller to achieve it so "spend to save" sale.
that campaign ended on June 18th https://www.jp.playstation.com/blog/page/20170607-dop-shop.html
dragonflys545
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I don't get the whole arms dropped because there aren't enough switch out there... I mean aren't there already a million switch sold in Japan? Perhaps people just aren't interested in arms.
I know...? Data last week was for the week prior. Everything is off by a week.
Well, usually even games that do well do not sell to 50% of the userbase. 15% is pretty good already and continued sales can only help keep that high of an attach rate. Platform momentum is a crucial factor for leggy games.
whyamihere
Banned
This is a weird post!
It's the genre. It's a decent drop considering the fighting game genre. We'll have to see later.
AquaWateria
Member
Selling over 100k for a brand new IP is good especially a fighting game, a genre that has been in a decline in Japan.
What matters is if it will have legs, obviously ARMS can have shitty legs though. Although time will tell.
Jarod McChicken
Member
The apparent legs are more likely because the game does not need to do big numbers to stay in the top 10 right now, there is still a long way to reach the PS Vita total sales (83.816). But yeah, it's doing great, probably more than 150K combined with digital now. I can't find any trace of a Ys game selling better. The game is also being granted a translation in french for the first time courtesy of NISA, which is of course nice for the european sales