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Nintendo Switch Online app now available on most Google Play and App Stores

Justified

Member
I think you should read that again.

Unless there is another part in that picture.

The thing work like Twitch app. It turn itself down when you exit it, and restart when you open it again.

Maybe its the apps I use or maybe its android, but plenty of my apps run in the background while continuing to provide audio
 

Berordn

Member
The wording in that image is kind of weird. Obviously I can understand if I'm talking on the phone, but do they really mean that if I even simply flip over to Messenger or open up Chrome, I'm ceasing voice chat?

It sounds like microphone input is what turns it off, but it's not super clear...
 
You can, voice chat just gets temp disabled. Just like how any other app works. It gets suspended then loads the other app. When you're done with the app, it wakes the app back up.

Other voice chat apps don't work like that. Stuff like Skype and Discord just run in the background, even when using other apps.

This isn't a video chat. There's no reason for it to go off when the app is closed.
 
Audio apps typically can run in the background...

The app suspending should you want to do simple texting is just bad, it's mind boggling that this is the solution Nintendo went with over having it on the base OS.
 

Justified

Member
Do you play for YouTube Red then? Doesn't YouTube cut off audio if you open another app without having Red?

Basic Youtube does, yes, but off the top of my head, my Google Voice/Hangout apps keeps the connection there, and Waze keeps the direction and alerts when minimized
 

Boke1879

Member
This is just a crappy solution. I'll keep saying it. Voice chat Should primarily be from the Console OS. Not a phone app/
 
Maybe its the apps I use or maybe its android, but plenty of my apps run in the background while continuing to provide audio

Depends on the app/permissions. iOS for instance handles certain apps differently depending on how/which APIs are being utilized - for instance, a long time ago Facebook got into trouble with Apple for secretly performing bogus actions in the background, simulating a background audio component in order to keep their app running at all times, presumably to gather user information during non-Facebook user tasks.

Edit: the situation here is that opening any OTHER media playback application or opening the phone.app will always take precedence over any previous/background application that's currently using the same APIs
 

ash321

Member
Doesn't that mean the same thing though? You can't use it while other phone apps. It just goes to sleep. Then starts again after you go back to the app.


Maybe its the apps I use or maybe its android, but plenty of my apps run in the background while continuing to provide audio

I'm also on Android, and Twitch work the same as this app.

maybe because it think it self as voice app ? so it want to limit itself ? I don't really know.

And yeah, Youtube work in the background but it still cut itself out when you call somebody right ? Don't know about the message part though.

Edit: Come on Nintendo, turn the damn thing on so I can test this thing. Jeeez
 

Justified

Member
I'm also on Android, and Twitch work the same as this app.

maybe because it think it self as voice app ? so it want to limit itself ? I don't really know.

And yeah, Youtube work in the background but it still cut itself out when you call somebody right ? Don't know about the message part though.

Calling make sense, you can only use the input/output for one app at a time
 
Not on the YouTube app. If you look at YouTube through a browser it will but not the app.

You can still work around this, even if the video was open in a background tab - just pull up control center and you'll see media playback controls for that tab. There is a distinct possibility that this is also how we'll be able to keep Switch voice chat active while performing other actions on our phones, should we want to do that for some reason.
 
Really if Nintendo was so married to the idea of voice chat on a phone they should have just partnered with Discord or something. This whole thing sounds like a mess.
 

Lucario

Member
You can, voice chat just gets temp disabled. Just like how any other app works. It gets suspended then loads the other app. When you're done with the app, it wakes the app back up.
I've never used another voice chat app that worked like this. Multitasking is standard functionality.
 
Really if Nintendo was so married to the idea of voice chat on a phone they should have just partnered with Discord or something. This whole thing sounds like a mess.

Or, you know, they could just develop their own proprietary solution and not pay/involve a third party. I think we should withhold judgement on whether or not Nintendo should have done this after we actually use the app.

If it's a garbage fire, then I will agree with you.
 

Persona7

Banned
You can, voice chat just gets temp disabled. Just like how any other app works. It gets suspended then loads the other app. When you're done with the app, it wakes the app back up.

Never heard of an app that does that. Discord definitely doesn't operate in this manner. What a disaster.
 

Patch13

Member
I am still coming to grips with this thing still being a thing.

Is there any way that this is just some shitty stop gap solution until something better is done at hardware level?

Nope. This is the solution. And it's actually probably the best solution ...

If Nintendo put a headphone jack on the joy-cons, it would suck, because you'd be waving a cord around.

If Nintendo put a headphone jack in the Pro controller, everybody would complain because you would have to buy an $80 accessory in order to have voice chat.

If Nintendo required Bluetooth headphones, then people would complain because you would have to buy expensive air pod style things to voice chat. And also people would complain because you wouldn't be able to do local multiplayer with as many Switches, because the headset is hogging a Bluetooth slot.

And if Nintendo made voice chat a handheld only thing, people would complain, because then it wouldn't work while docked.

Also, there's Nintendo being worried about people (esp. kids) getting harassed. And they have a point: Splatoon is one of the few online shooters where I see a good mix of openly femme nicks in matches. Not being harassed for being a girl is a major perk of the franchise.

Pretty much everybody has a smartphone with a headphone jack, which makes it a nice way to provide voice chat for people who really want it. You're glancing at your phone to catch up on Facebook or look up super l33t strats between matches anyway, so it's not like it's going to add actual overhead to your life. And you can always invest in a pair of bluetooth headphones if you want to eliminate the cord. :)

Basically, sticking the voice chat on a phone does make a lot of sense, given what the Switch is, and what the bundled controllers are like. Not that will stop people from griping about it ... but they'd gripe about whatever solution Nintendo implemented, so I'm not sure the griping is going to bug the folks at Nintendo all that much.
 

_Ryo_

Member
I dont really see any benefits to using this app over other voice/text apps? Discord seems to be just as good or better a solution, and its free.
 

nynt9

Member
Nope. This is the solution. And it's actually probably the best solution ...

If Nintendo put a headphone jack on the joy-cons, it would suck, because you'd be waving a cord around.

If Nintendo put a headphone jack in the Pro controller, everybody would complain because you would have to buy an $80 accessory in order to have voice chat.

If Nintendo required Bluetooth headphones, then people would complain because you would have to buy expensive air pod style things to voice chat. And also people would complain because you wouldn't be able to do local multiplayer with as many Switches, because the headset is hogging a Bluetooth slot.

And if Nintendo made voice chat a handheld only thing, people would complain, because then it wouldn't work while docked.

Also, there's Nintendo being worried about people (esp. kids) getting harassed. And they have a point: Splatoon is one of the few online shooters where I see a good mix of openly femme nicks in matches. Not being harassed for being a girl is a major perk of the franchise.

Pretty much everybody has a smartphone with a headphone jack, which makes it a nice way to provide voice chat for people who really want it. You're glancing at your phone to catch up on Facebook or look up super l33t strats between matches anyway, so it's not like it's going to add actual overhead to your life. And you can always invest in a pair of bluetooth headphones if you want to eliminate the cord. :)

Basically, sticking the voice chat on a phone does make a lot of sense, given what the Switch is, and what the bundled controllers are like. Not that will stop people from griping about it ... but they'd gripe about whatever solution Nintendo implemented, so I'm not sure the griping is going to bug the folks at Nintendo all that much.

Nah. This was a solved problem on the vita. Add a headphone jack, and also allow bluetooth phones, and also have the app for people who really want it. It's not rocket science.
 
This is the best solution for voice chat ever. Nintendo you truly are the greatest innovators.. Sony and Microsoft will soon be "adopting" this, I guarantee it.
 
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Deleted member 465307

Unconfirmed Member
I dont really see any benefits to using this app over other voice/text apps? Discord seems to be just as good or better a solution, and its free.

I COULD BE TOTALLY MISREMEMBERING, BUT...the app does have specific functionality to interact with Splatoon 2 (like checking statistics, looking at gear, matchmaking?, etc.) that Discord can't do. I think it also might automatically sort who you're talking to based on who's on your team? I'm much less certain about that.

Basically, it more tightly integrates with Nintendo's games.
 
Nope. This is the solution. And it's actually probably the best solution ...

If Nintendo put a headphone jack on the joy-cons, it would suck, because you'd be waving a cord around.

If Nintendo put a headphone jack in the Pro controller, everybody would complain because you would have to buy an $80 accessory in order to have voice chat.

If Nintendo required Bluetooth headphones, then people would complain because you would have to buy expensive air pod style things to voice chat. And also people would complain because you wouldn't be able to do local multiplayer with as many Switches, because the headset is hogging a Bluetooth slot.

And if Nintendo made voice chat a handheld only thing, people would complain, because then it wouldn't work while docked.

Also, there's Nintendo being worried about people (esp. kids) getting harassed. And they have a point: Splatoon is one of the few online shooters where I see a good mix of openly femme nicks in matches. Not being harassed for being a girl is a major perk of the franchise.

Pretty much everybody has a smartphone with a headphone jack, which makes it a nice way to provide voice chat for people who really want it. You're glancing at your phone to catch up on Facebook or look up super l33t strats between matches anyway, so it's not like it's going to add actual overhead to your life. And you can always invest in a pair of bluetooth headphones if you want to eliminate the cord. :)

Basically, sticking the voice chat on a phone does make a lot of sense, given what the Switch is, and what the bundled controllers are like. Not that will stop people from griping about it ... but they'd gripe about whatever solution Nintendo implemented, so I'm not sure the griping is going to bug the folks at Nintendo all that much.


This is spin at its absolute finest. I am not being sarcastic, even if you are being genuine. I disagree with nearly every one of your points but the way you defended this idiotic decision deserves incredible merit.
 

Tank Jr.

Neo Member
If Nintendo put a headphone jack on the joy-cons, it would suck, because you'd be waving a cord around.

I've yet to hear anybody complain about this since it was a thing on Xbox.

Also, there's Nintendo being worried about people (esp. kids) getting harassed. And they have a point: Splatoon is one of the few online shooters where I see a good mix of openly femme nicks in matches. Not being harassed for being a girl is a major perk of the franchise.

Is the concept of muting and blocking that foreign to Nintendo?
 
Nope. This is the solution. And it's actually probably the best solution ...

If Nintendo put a headphone jack on the joy-cons, it would suck, because you'd be waving a cord around.

If Nintendo put a headphone jack in the Pro controller, everybody would complain because you would have to buy an $80 accessory in order to have voice chat.

If Nintendo required Bluetooth headphones, then people would complain because you would have to buy expensive air pod style things to voice chat. And also people would complain because you wouldn't be able to do local multiplayer with as many Switches, because the headset is hogging a Bluetooth slot.

And if Nintendo made voice chat a handheld only thing, people would complain, because then it wouldn't work while docked.

Also, there's Nintendo being worried about people (esp. kids) getting harassed. And they have a point: Splatoon is one of the few online shooters where I see a good mix of openly femme nicks in matches. Not being harassed for being a girl is a major perk of the franchise.

Pretty much everybody has a smartphone with a headphone jack, which makes it a nice way to provide voice chat for people who really want it. You're glancing at your phone to catch up on Facebook or look up super l33t strats between matches anyway, so it's not like it's going to add actual overhead to your life. And you can always invest in a pair of bluetooth headphones if you want to eliminate the cord. :)

Basically, sticking the voice chat on a phone does make a lot of sense, given what the Switch is, and what the bundled controllers are like. Not that will stop people from griping about it ... but they'd gripe about whatever solution Nintendo implemented, so I'm not sure the griping is going to bug the folks at Nintendo all that much.

THIS. Well said, my friend.
 

Jubenhimer

Member
I'm still on the fence about how this is going to work, especially considering the current implementation regarding Voice Chat. Still, the fact that games can have little applet services within the app is a very novel idea, and I hope to see developers use that in creative ways. Nintendo did say the app is essentially in beta, so I hope they improve and refine it's functionality when the service starts becoming paid.
 

neptunes

Member
Nope. This is the solution. And it's actually probably the best solution ...


If Nintendo required Bluetooth headphones, then people would complain because you would have to buy expensive air pod style things to voice chat. And also people would complain because you wouldn't be able to do local multiplayer with as many Switches, because the headset is hogging a Bluetooth slot.
There is absolutely NO REASON why Nintendo couldn't add optional bluetooth mic support, your reasoning doesn't hold up
 
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