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[NotLiquid]

Even if they fix this or add better voice chat solutions I just see no reason not to use Discord instead.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

I understand this is basically a test run but by goly.

 

[Ryde3]

holy shit, it's worse than I thought...

how could this be possible.

 

[Pureauthor]

How do you fail to consider the most basic issues of functionality when designing a phone app in the year 2017

 

[trixx]

Yeah this seems like a load of crap, get some discord tech implemented into the switch os

 

[Spiritwalker]

Pathetic. I had hoped this would be the generation Nintendo gets its shit together with online.. but nope.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

I can't understand why you guys need voice chat in splatoon but this is pathetic anyways

You can't understand why people in a team in a team-based shooter might need to talk to one another? I mean, I likely won't use it but I can certainly understand the need.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I like to think of it like a loaf of bread in the oven...

Or not...?

This was the decision they made to put an app on the phone and no system wide voice chat on the system.

 

[Jawbreaker]

Yeah, they deserve all the shit they're going to get for this. Terrible.

 

[shanafan]

This situation reminds of when Verizon and Sprint iPhones didn't allow you to talk and surf the web at the same time. Seems like Nintendo isn't that far behind, that was like 4 years ago lol.

 

[Cartho]

Think we should all just use Discord to be honest.

 

[Rezbit]

The app doesn't even offer a fraction of what has been available on other consoles for years. I really hope that if there's enough of a stink kicked up they will take notice. Not holding my breath though :/

 

[Newtype-001]

Spoiler

lmao

 

[bananafactory]

I know, because I want this god damn app to work right, and if I have to post it a million times I will. Everyone posts "unbelievable", "insane", "it's 2017" and everyone here gets it, but maybe the numbnuts who made this app have no clue, so we should all tell them.

Many of us did submit our feedback already, and are now here to continue discussing how stupid this is

 

[theechrisfox]

This is a pretty common complaint about Pokemon GO as well. It was never changed.

 

[Skittzo0413]

Wait what the hell? I was cautiously optimistic about this whole app thing, adopting a "let's wait and see how it turns out" approach as opposed to foaming rage like many others did from the outset. HOWEVER.... This is ridiculous. If, in 2017, your voice chat solution app requires the phone to stay on, meaning you need to disable auto sleep which every single person on the planet has turned on..... That is utterly, utterly mind blowing.

How did Nintendo not look at apps like Discord and follow their lead? Sadly, it's yet more evidence of a "head in the sand" approach to online. They've got some of the best bloody designers and teams in the industry but my god, they're so pig headed it's quite staggering.

Again, the app disables auto-lock just like the youtube app does. So the bolded isn't a problem.

Not to say the entire concept and execution hasn't been horrendous so far, but at least they thought of that haha

 

[Effect]

Dude we get it, you've been posting this multiple times in every Switch App related thread

It needs to be said over and over again. Complaining on a forum isn't going to do anything. Pissed off by this, upset by this, etc then actually provide actual feedback. This is one of the rare times where there is a direct way to do so to Nintendo. Use it. Remind people of this over and over again because there a lot of people that love to just complain and won't actually take the next extra step to get those complaints to the people that need to hear/read them. You see it in politics all the time to give an example. People that will bitch and moan about something but can't be bothered to pick up the phone and call their representative in the state government or congress and leave a message. Some won't even bother with the websites that will send a letter automatically where the only thing you need to do is fill in your name and added an email address. People that will not bother to put in the time to education people to vote one way or another in regard to something they dislike. Not even a family member. Reminding people that there is a way to directly give feedback is the very least one can do here to get Nintendo to understand what the damn problems are.

 

[Neverforget]

Nintendo is so out of touch with online communication! It's sad.

 

[Chubzdoomer]

Nintendo fucked up the millisecond they decided to relegate voice chat to an app. These issues are just the icing on the cake.

You'd be hard pressed to find a more incompetent company when it comes to online-anything.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

GameXplain said you can't even pull down the notification tray on your phone while using the app and voice chat. You immediately get cut off.

 

[Eumi]

This is hilarious. Its like they're actively trying to prevent people using the app.

 

[phanphare]

I can't understand why you guys need voice chat in splatoon but this is pathetic anyways

it's pretty simple to understand, it's a 4v4 game with competitive modes

 

[Dark Cloud]

I know, because I want this god damn app to work right, and if I have to post it a million times I will. Everyone posts "unbelievable", "insane", "it's 2017" and everyone here gets it, but maybe the numbnuts who made this app have no clue, so we should all tell them.

How the hell do they not get it? Isn't DeNA working on this? Is DeNA incompetent? Is Nintendo giving them backwards orders? Is this something that YET AGAIN only caters to Japan??

 

[TheBaldEmperor]

It's been tested, locking your phone will disconnect you from voice chat. However the app will prevent auto-lock from occurring, like the youtube app does.

No way....

 

[ornery]

 

[CrunchyFrog]

*sigh* of all the things they do right and they choose to get this so fucking wrong. I guess hopefully this being a mobile app and not a part of the OS/firmware would make it easier to update?

 

[Regiruler]

I mean, I'm not a developer so I have no idea if voice chat on a console is actually difficult or not. I'm not qualified to make a statement on that. But of course I think having to use a phone app for console-to-console voice chat is silly.

n-Space of all people were able to accomplish in-game push-to-talk on the 3DS. That would be an improvement over what we have.

 

[tzare]

I wonder if they could change their minds if feedback is enough and just fucking implement everything online related in the firmware. Even vita could do it with a fraction of the specs switch has

 

[hawk2025]

I like to think of it like a loaf of bread in the oven...

Well, dinner is served this Friday, and they are serving sludge water along with it instead of wine.

 

[LumpOfCole]

Serious question: what's the advantage of trying to voice chat with friends using this app instead of just using Discord?

 

[Phu]

Nintendo's the type of company to branch into cookware and try to sell wooden frying pans.

 

[jroc74]

Sounds like something that could be fixed in a quick update....unless its intentional, but even then they will need to include at least an option to support VC if the screen is off.

I assume it can. Sounds like a multi tasking fix.

I remember over the years many mobile games, apps getting fixes where they wouldnt disconnect, close when doing multi tasking.

Now I can answer a call during a game, put it on speaker and go right back to playing. And this is an online only game.

 

[Savinowned]

This just further convinces me to continue using Discord/Google Hangouts with friends when I'll want to talk. Here's hoping partying up as a team in the game isn't fucked on launch.

 

[Living the Dream]

Nintendo had 20 years to catch up with their competitor and this is what they come up with. The app is actually worse than what people speculated when it was announced.

fixed

 

[Mr.Deadshot]

What a shitshow. Glad I didn't buy a Switch yet. No way I am paying 300+ for that.

 

[Zombie James]

GameXplain said you can't even pull down the notification tray on your phone while using the app and voice chat. You immediately get cut off.

Do you have a source for this?

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Serious question: what's the advantage of trying to voice chat with friends using this app instead of just using Discord?

The app will automatically sort the users into team-specific channels so you can only hear your teammates during the match.


Aaaaaaaaaand that's it I think.

 

[Gator86]

Nintendo makes amazing games, but watching them try to do almost literally anything else

 

[family_guy]

This is a tactic to weed people out. You have to really want voice chat to support this.

 

[LCGeek]

Its because phones aren't great at multi tasking regardless of preference. Yet leave it to nintendo not to realize this until someone like ARS test this out. Quite frankly I'm sick of quirky nintendo when it comes to doing software properly when it comes to QOL or infrastructure. It's screwed their entire online platform to the point most know they aren't serous.

There's nothing bizzare about a real flaw of smartphones vs a laptop/desktop based OS.

 

[LegendofLex]

I can't imagine someone (or a group of someones really) would have designed this as a feature. I mean, that's comically stupid.

They've intentionally designed the app to not allow your phone to lock/shut off the screen while you're using voice chat.

It's kind of like how the standard YouTube app does it. They could have allowed you to at least play audio while the screen is locked - they did it in the paid subscription app, and I've definitely "listened" to shows on Netflix on my drives home. But they chose not to allow that.

This is seriously bad and I'm genuinely considering just never being able to play Mario Kart and Splatoon online in 2018 and beyond rather than paying for the service.

 

[Xion_Stellar]

Pathetic.

I'm glad the only Nintendo franchises I care about don't necessarily need/have voice chat or much interaction with Nintendo's lacking online infrastructure but it still sucks for player who need/care about these features.

 

[OricWindstar]

This is somehow worse than expected. Not even going to download it. Just going to use FaceTime audio or Discord.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Do you have a source for this?

Don't have a timestamp, but the whole thing is worth listening to anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Hn7_7c52Y

 

[Dre3001]

Considering that having the screen on for most phones will drain your battery extremely quick, you are basically going to have to plug a charger into your phone as well.

 

[Pastry]

Such a fucking mess and like two decades behind the rest of the industry

 

[Leafhopper]

I can't understand why you guys need voice chat in splatoon but this is pathetic anyways

I suppose how the game modes work in most of Splatoon I can see why you would ask that (Salmon Run might change that.) but people just generally like being able to speak with their friends in games they play with too.

 

[BackwardCap]

Nintendo's bad app is bad?

Who didn't see this coming.

 

[Devilgunman]

Again, the app disables auto-lock just like the youtube app does. So the bolded isn't a problem.

Not to say the entire concept and execution hasn't been horrendous so far, but at least they thought of that haha

Which is mind-boggling. They knew they fucked it up with the lock screen but instead of finding a permanent solution, they resorted to workaround.

Tester Intern: "Sir, app won't work when the phone sleeps"

Lead Engineer: "Keep it awake then!"

 

[Mendrox]

I know, because I want this god damn app to work right, and if I have to post it a million times I will. Everyone posts "unbelievable", "insane", "it's 2017" and everyone here gets it, but maybe the numbnuts who made this app have no clue, so we should all tell them.

This is a multi billion company. These numbnuts knew what they were doing. They were told beforehand what a clusterfuck of a solution this is and they still fuck it up.