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'The Snowman' trailer, Fassbender, 20/10

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Fancy Clown

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Good director, good cast, apparently based on a good book, good visuals...and yet this looks like total shit. Hopefully it's just a really poorly cut trailer?

It feels like one of those FOX crime shows that you know is gonna be canceled after one season.
 
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berzeli

Banned
SCULLIBUNDO said:
lol 90% of the lines spoken in the trailer are cliche garbage. I couldn't believe it.
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Fancy Clown said:
Good director, good cast, apparently based on a good book, good visuals...and yet this looks like total shit. Hopefully it's just a really poorly cut trailer?

It feels like one of those FOX crime shows that you know is gonna be canceled after one season.
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Considering it is written by Peter Straughan (Wolf Hall, and Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy), and Hossein Amini (Drive, Our Kind of Traitor) it is odd how shit the dialogue in the trailer is. (The third guy credited for the screenplay isn't exactly a slouch either)
Now, it doesn't exactly reek of a studio dumbing down a trailer since they don't know how to sell the film film. But nor would I be surprised if that was the case.

I literally grew up watching the works of Alfredson, so he has a very dear place in my heart. Would suck if this ends up being a misfire.
 
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Nappuccino

Member
Cinematography seemed great. I hope some of that dialogue is just for the trailer because woof.

And I liked the book well enough.
 
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Wollan

Member
Great, great talent across the board for this.
I'm expecting the generic trailer to misrepresent the actual quality of the film.

I read the book and it was a cool Detective Noir crime story set in Oslo. A bit in the vain of The Girl with a Dragon Tattoo but more lone police in focus.

I also read the first book in the series which is set in Sydney. He knows the conundrum of his name but he lucks out with people pronouncing it Harry Holy.
 
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Meier

Member
My wife loves Jo Nesbo and specifically the Harry Hole (such a silly name) series and really liked the trailer. I haven't seen it yet, but there's a lot of talent behind this -- Alfredson is a great director and there's a very good cast involved. I'd be surprised if the actual film was not quite good.
 
D

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Huh, that wasn't as interesting as I'd hoped.

Solid use of Massive Attack's "Voodoo in My Blood" however.
 
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Ninja Scooter

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SCULLIBUNDO said:
lol 90% of the lines spoken in the trailer are cliche garbage. I couldn't believe it.
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"He calls himself the snowman killer...and he's completely insane"
"He's going after women he disapproves of"
"The only thing we know for sure, is that he's playing games with us"
"He's taunting us!"

Law and Order SVU want their dialogue back.
 
F0rneus

F0rneus

Tears in the rain
People thinking this is like a TV show are going to get mindfucked. The novel is incredibly twisty and complex. Trailer shows legit nothing. The book takes cliche serial killer tropes (as seen here) and completely turns them on their heads. Only thing I hope is that they changed the killer`s identity because...it's ridiculously obvious in the book.

Ninja Scooter said:
"He calls himself the snowman killer...and he's completely insane"
"He's going after women he disapproves of"
"The only thing we know for sure, is that he's playing games with us"
"He's taunting us!"
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(Book spoilers)
Only one of these 4 quotes is true in the story.
Think about that.
 
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jelly

Member
I like the books, not read this one though. My fear with these is they suck getting condensed into a film.
 
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Nappuccino

Member
Aquavelvaman said:
Not sure if I'm sold by that trailer but this thread convinced me to try one of the books. Should I read snowman or another one?
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I'd start with Redbreast, honestly. It's rather grounded, leads into a nice trilogy of books, and may be the series' best.

Snowman is a little more over the top and "hollywood" than some of the others (though not as bad as Leopard), so it may not be the best place to start.
 
F0rneus

F0rneus

Tears in the rain
Aquavelvaman said:
Not sure if I'm sold by that trailer but this thread convinced me to try one of the books. Should I read snowman or another one?
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Snowman is a good place to start as any but you could probably start with The Bat, the first book and read onwards. Only Jo Nesbo novel I didn't really like is The Leopard. That was.....a Michael Bay serial killer thriller so to speak.

But Snowman is 100% his best book and one of the best thrillers I've read.
 
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starchild excalibur

Member
This could be one of those films that's surprisingly better than the trailer suggests it would be. Dear lord, the sound design in some of those shots is horrible.

*snowball is thrown*
*woman looks around, her facial expression reading "mild befuddlement"*
*cut to black with loud garbled sound skreetch*

I honestly thought my video had skipped a half-second shot of a knife coming down on her or something. But nope. It's just black.
 
F0rneus

F0rneus

Tears in the rain
starchild excalibur said:
This could be one of those films that's surprisingly better than the trailer suggests it would be.
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As someone who has read the book, the trailer is perfect because it sells the very assumptions the characters are making. It's hard to describe without spoiling an excellent thriller that basically goes the complete opposite direction you expect.

For example HUGE BOOK SPOILERS
The killer is NOT taunting the cops at all. The letters and phone calls, even the Snowman name have fuck all to do with the actual killer. The story is built on insane misdirection and is twisty as fuck.
Yet the cliche is there and you think you can piece things together....you are wrong. The book is about a cop who like, is DESPERATE for a serial killer in his home country so he can catch him, and he gets the most cliche possible story but the real story is that everything you assume is wrong. It's fucking brilliant and just the movie trailer is already messing with people.
 
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Zabka

Member
Mechanized said:
Harry Hole? Harry Hole. Really?
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E

ElectronicOldMen

Banned
The source material is fantastic and really subversive, it's a really interesting take on the Scandi-noir crime thriler that does some cool stuff with a lot of the detective-serial killer dynamics that make the trailer seem a bit generic, and Alfredson is a fantastic director so I'm excited about this. Feel like this is one of those trailers which works a lot better when you have the context of knowing where the story is going and the expectations it's trying to set up than if you're going in cold.
 
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WinFonda

Member
trailer looks good to me

some really nice shots, creepy stuff, and tension - really im loving the cinematography

if anything the title is the thing betraying the quality of the film, it gives the impression it's one of those direct-to-video slasher horror movies with a magical killer snowman
 
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NYR94

Member
I'm going to check this out based on the talents of Fassbender and Alfredson. Hoping the trailer editors just included all the cliche lines because they're familiar to audiences (even if the actual film is very different).
 
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JWiLL

Banned
This looks...like a movie. Seems like an odd career choice for Fassbender right now.

Then again, he did the Assassin's Creed movie.

Ferguson was great in Mission Impossible.
 
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berzeli

Banned
Fury451 said:
Definitely a better trailer for sure, the atmosphere and direction looks great- some Fincher vibes for sure.

But the dialogue is still the dialogue.....
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The dialogue being so weak is a bit weird seeing as the script is by Hossein Amini (Our Kind of Traitor, Drive, though he also has some clunkers) and Peter Straughan (Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Wolf Hall, Frank).

But this trailer lists also lists Søren Sveistrup, who isn't listed on the official website (and as far as I know only did the first draft).

I'm hoping it is just the trailers.

edit: lol, apparently this is the second time on this page I bemoan this and almost in the exact same language. I shouldn't post.
 
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starchild excalibur

Member
Much better trailer. For one it doesn't have that schlocky "jump scare" sound design the first one does when the woman turns around and sees nothing at the start of the trailer.

It's a good director, so here's hoping the film ends up being pretty solid.
 
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