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Wkd BO 07•28-30•17 - Nolan not Dun' w/ #1 run, = Atomic

Toa TAK

Banned
I feel like we are unwittingly becoming the Annabelle 2 viral marketing thread.
Well I heard it's fantastic. Currently 100% on the tomatometer. I may need to head to out my nearest theater come August 10th to see it to believe it. Of course, the experience wouldn't be complete without some popcorn and candy I nabbed with my membership card while my buddies and I sit together in the IMAX 3D showing at midnight for the Ultimate Thrill.
 

WaffleTaco

Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Is The Conjuring/Annabelle franchise the highest rated horror franchise? I think the only rough movie they had was the first Annabelle. So now it would be 3/4 films are good?
 

Toa TAK

Banned
Is The Conjuring/Annabelle franchise the highest rated horror franchise? I think the only rough movie they had was the first Annabelle. So now it would be 3/4 films are good?
Still a more successful cinematic universe compared to the DCEU, where 1/4 are good.
 
Speaking of Annabelle 2, I got a couple more passes for a screening on Monday. I've already seen the movie, so if you're in the Seattle area and want to see it, give me a PM.
 

Anth0ny

Member
So we need to make a list of symbols of childhood innocence ruined by horror movies:

-clowns
-dolls
-hockey masks
-William Shatner


I predict the next member of the list will be "Guy in children's character suit". Almost like BumRush's story, I used to have a Barney the Dinosaur VHS that was kinda beat up so the video used to go in and out and the voices would get deeeeeep and slooooooow.

Nightmares.

It also didn't help that Barney's original design was fucking horrifying:

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god damn it giant corporations why you gotta make children's characters so creepy
 

Shauni

Member
Is The Conjuring/Annabelle franchise the highest rated horror franchise? I think the only rough movie they had was the first Annabelle. So now it would be 3/4 films are good?

Yeah, but The Evil Nun spin-off may help keep it bad. Not sure how they'll pull that off.
 

kswiston

Member
The Chinese studio that got the rights to distribute Valerian in China apparently paid a 600M yuan guaranteed minimum gross. So Valerian would have to gross $89M in China for them to start seeing profit. I don't see how they are going to recoup that.
 

kswiston

Member
Has it opened there yet?

Because who fuckin' knows with China, really.

It opens August 25th. But because China blocked off 6 weeks of the summer to be exclusively for local film releases, Everything from July is being forced into late August and early Sept

Valerian - Aug 25
Cars 3 - Aug 25
Baby Driver - Aug 25
Dunkirk - Sept 1
Spider-Man Homecoming - Sept 8
War for the Planet of the Apes - Sept 15

Granted, of the Aug 25 films, Valerian will probably end up faring the best.
 

kswiston

Member
Rth is saying $7.5M for The Dark Tower, $5M for Dunkirk, $3.8M for the Emoji movie, $3.5M for Kidnap and Girls Trip, and $2.8M for Detroit.

If $7.5M holds, Sony can at least claim a #1 finish for The Dark Tower this weekend. Even mediocre holds on Saturday would lead to a weekend gross in the $18M+ range.

A $5M Friday for Dunkirk would put the film down 37% from last Friday. Emoji would be looking at a 62% drop. Girls Trip a 44% drop.

$2.8M for Detroit would be pretty disappointing. That would translate to something like $7.5-8M for the weekend.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
The dolls with the working eyelids always skeeved me out.

What gets me even more than creepy clowns and dolls are those fucking monkeys with the cymbals - from Monkey Shines. I'm playing Fallout 4 and the bastards at Bethesda put them everywhere.

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I'm scared of clowns and these fuckers thanks to Stephen King. Dude really put a dent in my psyche. (Which is a compliment, of course.)
 

Shauni

Member
With a good budding horror director. That's how they turned Annabelle around.

First Annabelle wasn't very good. And Annabelle has a really interesting idea and background to play with. Evil Nun works fine within the context of Conjuring 2, but it's whole backstory is fucking with Ed. They can always change that through to something else, I guess, make it broader
 
What gets me even more than creepy clowns and dolls are those fucking monkeys with the cymbals - from Monkey Shines. I'm playing Fallout 4 and the bastards at Bethesda put them everywhere.

DFFBZz6U0AAzuzA.jpg


I'm scared of clowns and these fuckers thanks to Stephen King. Dude really put a dent in my psyche. (Which is a compliment, of course.)
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Remember last year when there was pretty much a crisis concerning clowns attacking people all over the US? I don't remember if they ever caught the people behind it.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Remember last year when there was pretty much a crisis concerning clowns attacking people all over the US? I don't remember if they ever caught the people behind it.

They weren't attacking, just hanging out freaking kids out. We had one in the area just hanging out in the woods waving at people now and then. Mysterious creepy clown got overplayed quickly, though in hindsight it put creepy clown to the fore just in time for IT to show up.
 

berzeli

Banned
Fun fact, when the Friday numbers come in Baby Driver will have earned more at the (domestic) box office than all of Wright's previous films combined.
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
They weren't attacking, just hanging out freaking kids out. We had one in the area just hanging out in the woods waving at people now and then. Mysterious creepy clown got overplayed quickly, though in hindsight it put creepy clown to the fore just in time for IT to show up.

Conspiracy!
It was just the production crew doing a bit of viral marketing in their downtime
 
‘Get Out’ Is 2017’s Most Profitable Film So Far
Jordan Peele’s racism-horror masterpiece “Get Out” has had the best return on investment of any film of 2017 — a spectacular 630 percent.

Deep into summer, only one other film this year has come close to that kind of return — and it’s from Blumhouse, the same production company that delivered “Get Out.” M. Night Shyamalan‘s “Split” had a 610 percent ROI.

TheWrap calculated an estimate for the combined production budget and marketing costs for the top 25 grossing films this year so far, and Blumhouse founder and CEO Jason Blum’s strategy of taking creative risks within tight budgets is paying off.

Peele was given a $4.5 million budget to work with on “Get Out,” while M. Night Shyamalan had $9 million to make “Split.” Combined with an estimated $30 million marketing budget, that gives “Get Out” an ROI percentage of 630 percent with its worldwide gross of $252 million, and “Split” an ROI of 610 percent on a global haul of $277 million.

Disney’s “Beauty and the Beast” remake, which remains the highest grossing film of the year so far with $1.26 billion worldwide, had a lower ROI than “Get Out” or “Split” because of its $160 million budget and much more extensive global marketing campaign. Its ROI is well over 400 percent, but doesn’t approach that of the two Blumhouse films.

Overall, summer box office is down from 2016, despite big studio successes including “Despicable Me 3,” “Spider-Man: Homecoming,” and “Wonder Woman.”
 

Lima

Member
I honestly don't understand how Box Office is down from 2016. We had so many good movies is summer and last year was terrible compared to this year. What the hell.
 

First of all, isn't there more to a movie than production and marketing costs? Second of all, I think I'd argue that "most profitable" should mean most total dollars of profit made (which probably goes to BatB), not highest percentage of ROI.

Edit: Third of all, that percentage took the production and marketing costs and divided by the total BO gross, which isn't what the actual studios see. Okay, I'm kinda gonna ignore this.
 
I don't think that's how RoI works. This doesn't take in account the theaters cut of the gross for example. And most profitable should mean the movie that made the most profit anyway.

This kind of metric has been around for years. IIRC Halloween at one time was near the top of this list.
 

WaffleTaco

Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
I mean don't horror films always make a ton of money? I'm guessing their marketing is always more expensive than their actual budget.
 
I mean don't horror films always make a ton of money?

Not always. But they are (considering you can keep both production AND marketing costs somewhat respectable) one of the more reliable genres in terms of return on investment.

Which is why a lot of indies have built themselves on the back of their horror reciepts.
 

Toa TAK

Banned
So maybe Annabelle? I'm doubting Saw and It since they're bigger and will probably have more marketing money on those. Probably wrong, though.
 
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